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Re: S-300 delivery news
« Reply #200 on: June 25, 2010, 05:18:34 PM »
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Iran makes its own air defense system and we are well covered for in the short to medium range radius. However, the S-300/400 systems are long range air defense systems that are unchallenged in the world by any other air defense system.

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Medium range missiles are obsolete in a region where iran is surrounded by other countries who posses longer range missile defense system.
Recently a revealed plot shows that saudi arabia would open its sky for israeli planes to attack iran.does iran posses the ability to protect itself from all of its neighbors in terms of air defense?

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Unfortunately this is what is happening today in Pakistan. A prime minister saying such a thing should be fired from his post and be considered a disgrace. In Iran if a minister ever says weapons are more important than the people having food, he can hand in his resignation the next day. The question of whether it really brought deterrence capability to Pakistan is still open for debate.

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I am not talking about giving priority to weapons than people.but why is iran developing nuclear plants which it cant save from US or israeli warplanes.it is true that us or israel would think twice before attacking iran considering the consequence but regardless of any retaliatory measure from iran everybody should agree with me that these countries do possess the ability to atack these installations.

When can Iran assure its people that it is 100% protected from enemy attack from air , sea and land?

The main point is that iran should have paid more attention to enhance its military ability first then nuclear ability.Now see russian idiots are refusing to sell s-300 to iran showing the pretext of un sanction.iranian's must remember that iranian's have to save their country by themselves ,  russians or chinese will never be on iranians side during any conflict involving usa or israel.

blaming russia for not delivering s-300 exposes the weakness of iranian air defense not strengthens.iran must remember that russia was its enemy before fall of shah by then usa was iran's friend.but now russia PRETENDS to support iran to show off its small influence in middle east.

Before USA played with iran now Russians are playing with them.

Iranian's are Iran's main strength not russian or chinese weapons.

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Developing a defensive missile system paralleled to capabilities of the S-300 requires decades of R&D. However, Iran is getting there

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How long decades do we have to wait?   

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Well, indirectly it was German engineers in both the cases. They lay the foundations of missile/rocket and aircraft technology in both countries. Among many other technologies and sciences.

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Well it is not a matter of direct or indirect involvement of anybody.

My clear point is that russia or china will never help iran in the field of science and technology.now UN sanctions already closed the path of technology transfer to iran. For example indians are using transferred technology from russia very efficiently in building a strong armed force.Even if USA stoops its military supply to israel, it will survive very well caz now it has a well established weapon development system.

When Russians buy weapon from Israel how can they sell weapon to Iran?   

One country can never be fully strong using weapons bought from other countries.Technical know how is main.   

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It is already building better than good air defense systems and fighters. In time they will become better if God wills.

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Well i hope God's will favors iran. 

 
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Re: S-300 delivery news
« Reply #201 on: June 26, 2010, 05:09:51 AM »
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Here is a little confirmation about the system I call IR-300 and Iran's AD strategy:

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به دليل تاخير درتحويل

S300 در حال ساخت و توليد موشک هاي برد بلند هستيم

معاون هماهنگ کننده قرارگاه پدافند هوايي خاتم الانبياء (ص) گفت: به دليل تاخير در ارسال سامانه هاي استراتژيک پدافند موشکي S300 در حال طراحي و ساخت موشک هاي برد بلند هستيم.

سردار سرتيپ "محمدحسن منصوريان" در گفت وگوي اختصاصي با خبرنگار سياسي ايرنا درخصوص ساخت موشک هاي پدافندي استراتژيک برد بلند در داخل کشور خاطر نشان کرد : ما براي تمامي نيازمندي هاي عملياتي خود فکر کرده ايم که البته بخشي از آنرا مي توان از خارج خريداري و بخش ديگري را در داخل توليد کنيم.
وي تهديدات کنوني آسمان کشور را در ارتفاع بالا ندانست اما تاخير در تحويل اين سامانه را باعث توليد موشک شاهين عنوان کرد و افزود : تهديدات کشورما در ارتفاع بالا و برد بلند نيست به همين دليل نگراني در زمينه اين تهديدات نداريم.
وي ادامه داد: اما براي از بين بردن اين تهديدات حداقلي نيز برنامه ريزي کرده و در حال طراحي و ساخت سيستم هاي برد بلند هستيم و در آينده نزديک اطلاعات آن اعلام مي شود.
سردار منصوريان با اشاره به ساخت و توليد سامانه موشک هاي پدافندي شاهين افزود: اين سامانه در دسته بندي سامانه هاي برد و ارتفاع متوسط قرار مي گيرد.
وي با اشاره به اينکه تهديدات هوايي، بيشتر در سطوح متوسط و کوتاه محقق مي شود، تصريح کرد: البته بخشي از اين تهديدات نيز در ارتفاع کم مانند حملات بالگردها، موشک هاي کروز و هواپيماهاي تاکتيکي و بخشي نيز در برد بالا مانند موشک هاي بالستيک و هواپيماهاي استراتژيک B1 ،B2 صورت مي گيرد.
منصويان حملات هوايي در ارتفاع متوسط را مربوط به انواع بمب افکن هاي سبک و سنگين، جنگ الکترونيک، فرماندهي و کنترل، ايستگاه هاي متحرک هوايي، موشک هاي هوا به زمين دانست و خاطر نشان کرد : در واقع تحقيقات و تجهيزات پدافندي در بخش ارتفاع متوسط تمرکز و افزايش يافته است.
وي مرکز ثقل صنعت دفاعي کشور را در زمينه تجهيز و توزيع پدافند هوايي، براساس ارتفاع متوسط تعريف کرد و اظهار داشت: هرچند براي سطوح ديگر هم پيش بيني هاي لازم صورت گرفته است، مانند ارتفاع کم و در مقابله با موشک هاي کروز، طراحي و توليد توپ‌هايي با انبوه و تراکم آتش را پيش بيني کرده ايم.
معاون هماهنگ کننده قرارگاه پدافند کشور ادامه داد: براي اين که ما يک سلاح خاص را به خط توليد ببريم، سلاح شاهين که در ارتفاع متوسط مي تواند نقش موثري داشته باشد را انتخاب و توليد کرده ايم که البته اين سلاح در ارتفاع کم هم مورد استفاده قرار مي گيرد، ولي بيشترين بازده را در ارتفاع متوسط دارد.
وي در خصوص ويژگي هاي اين سامانه نيز گفت: سامانه شاهين تفاوت زيادي با سامانه هاي موجود ديگر در نيروهاي مسلح دارد و البته همه طراحي و توليد آن بومي است که در واقع نشان مي دهد ما به طراحي و توليد سيستم هاي پدافند هوايي بسيار پيچيده دست يافتيم.
سردار منصوريان دومين ويژگي سامانه شاهين را بهره گيري از تمامي تجارب موجود کشور در زمينه ساخت ساير سامانه ها دانست و افزود: سامانه شاهين سامانه اي کامل و قابليت بالاتر و کامل‌تري برخوردار بوده که نقاط ضعف ساير سامانه هاي ديگر ندارد.
وي خاطر نشان کرد: به دليل بومي بودن دانش طراحي و توليد، امکان ارتقاء آن براي ما در هر زمان که اراده کنيم فراهم است.
وي همچنين درخصوص ساخت انواع رادارها در پدافند کشور نيز گفت: رادارها اولين تاثير را در مجموعه فرماندهي، کنترل و اداره عمليات پدافند هوايي ايفا مي کنند.
منصوريان با اشاره به اينکه اداره صحنه فضاي عملياتي کشور را رادارها مديريت مي کنند، افزود: رادارهاي اکتيو و غيرفعال "پسيو" در نوع خود اثر گذارند و ما به دليل اهميت موضوع، تجهيز پدافند هوايي را با تکنولوژي روز در دستور کار قرار داده ايم و با توجه به توانمندي دشمن در جنگ الکترونيک اين مولفه را وارد توسعه صنعتي خود کرده ايم.
وي با تاکيد بر اينکه رادارهايي که وارد ميدان هاي عملياتي مي شوند داراي ويژگي هاي خاصي هستند، تصريح کرد: صنايع داخلي از جمله در جنگ الکترونيک، موفقيت هاي بالايي را در طراحي، ساخت و مهندسي معکوس کسب کرده اند.
معاون هماهنگ کننده قرارگاه پدافند هوايي خاتم الانبياء از ديگر ويژگي هاي رادارهايي که هم اکنون در عرصه عملياتي کشور استفاده مي شوند، قابليت کشف اهداف در سطح مقطع بسيار پايين و حتي کوچکتر از موشک کروز و بالستيک نام برد و گفت: اين رادارها مي توانند اطلاعات بدست آمده را در اختيار يگان هاي عملياتي قرار دهند، زيرا رادارهاي امروزي با تکنولوژي هاي روز داراي اين قابليت هستند.
وي در خصوص اعمال تحريم هاي مختلف به کشورمان و محدود شدن دسترسي صنايع دفاعي داخلي از تجهيزات روز دنيا نيز تصريح کرد: تحريم کنوني آنگونه نيست که ما به هيچ قطعه اي در دنيا دسترسي نداشته باشيم، بخصوص در "آي سي"هاي پرسرعت و قطعات الکترونيکي خيلي پيچيده، تهيه اين از کانال هاي مختلف قابل وصول بوده و تحريم ها نمي تواند در اين بخش تاثير گذار باشد.
معاون هماهنگ کننده پدافند هوايي همچنين در رابطه با همکاري بين متخصصان داخلي و مراکز تحقيقات دانشگاهي با صنايع پدافندي کشور نيز گفت: يکي از موفقيت هاي ما ايجاد رابطه نزديک بين نيروهاي عملياتي و علمي است.
وي ادامه داد: يعني نيروهايي که در ميادين عملياتي تجربه کسب کرده اند با کساني که به مباحث تئوري و نظري مي پردازند، همکاري مي کنند.
وي در پاسخ به سوال ديگري در زمينه نقش پدافند هوايي در دفاع از آسمان کشور نيز خاطر نشان کرد: با توجه به اينکه تهاجم هوايي در جنگ هاي امروزي اهميت بالايي دارد، امروزه هرکشوري برتري هوايي داشته باشد و فضا را از آن خود کند، برنده نهايي جنگ خواهد بود، لذا بعد از تفکيک پدافند از نيروي هوايي اين بخش از هويتي قابل قبول برخوردار شده است.
سردار منصوريان تفکيک پدافند از نيروي هوايي را در راستاي مقابله با افزايش روز افزون تهاجم هوايي عليه کشور دانست و خاطر نشان ساخت: پس از تفکيک مجبور شديم که پدافند هوايي را به روز کرده و به اين نتيجه رسيديم که تا زمانيکه زير مجموعه يک نيرو و يگان ديگر باشد، نمي تواند تهديداتي که روز به روز در حال افزايش است، را پاسخ دهد.


منبع: خبرگزاری ایرنا
http://www.irna.ir/View/FullStory/?NewsId=1061282


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Re: S-300 delivery news
« Reply #202 on: June 26, 2010, 04:25:17 PM »
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Wasti: Getting help from abroad and giving something back for the help is how things work between countries. We must get all the help we can if it is in our interest.

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Re: S-300 delivery news
« Reply #203 on: June 26, 2010, 04:50:15 PM »
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Here is a little confirmation about the system I call IR-300 and Iran's AD strategy:

Catsoo

Catsoo pls post the translated version in English.

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Re: S-300 delivery news
« Reply #204 on: June 26, 2010, 06:02:14 PM »
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The fact that Iran is working on its own Version of S-300 (let's call it IS-300) is as evident as daylight.

I have some information as to where the technology/assistance is coming from but as for discussing the
Iran/Russia relations, as Maiser said, there will be relations between the two countries in various forms for years to come. But Iran must have received the message clearly that depending on others for defence technologies is only building in the sand and nothing else.

With the information available, I am confident Iran has already moved away from procurement from abroad and is expanding the domestic facilities substantially towards home grown defence technologies. Just wait and watch the news in the next twelve months. You will be surprised.

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i am glade that iran refuses to make stupid decisions on military matters. it is very wise for iran to peruse a domestic weapons manufacturing that ONLY for defensive weapons. iran has, in this faction, reduced the cost of maintaining an efficient military machine while keeping the military and the MOD in tight civil control. mashallah. a true success indeed and yet more to come.

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Re: S-300 delivery news
« Reply #205 on: June 26, 2010, 06:14:59 PM »
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Iran makes its own air defense system and we are well covered for in the short to medium range radius. However, the S-300/400 systems are long range air defense systems that are unchallenged in the world by any other air defense system.

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Medium range missiles are obsolete in a region where iran is surrounded by other countries who posses longer range missile defense system.
Recently a revealed plot shows that saudi arabia would open its sky for israeli planes to attack iran.does iran posses the ability to protect itself from all of its neighbors in terms of air defense?

your statement makes no logic at all. I think you are a little confused about military equiptment. just because some countries have long range air defence missiles does not make midiam range air defence missiles obsolete. what does make air defence missiles "obsolete" is an aircraft's ability to defeat the missile SYSTEM as a hole. i am not sure that can be as easly done in case of s-200s that iran has because iran has been working hard to improve its

radar systems
optimization of missiles systems
data tranfer systems
interfunctionality of virious anti aircraft SYSTEMS (one missile system working with other missile system and other anti aircraft guns to detect and distroy or deter bandits.

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Re: S-300 delivery news
« Reply #206 on: June 26, 2010, 09:57:15 PM »
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The S-200 isnt really much of a threat to enemy airpower other than Tankers and AWACs. It is too bulky, not designed to manuever and is over 40 years old and pretty easy to Jam. The S-200's only real value is its companion long range radars (for early warning). But indeed, how obsolete a SAM is depends on whether your opponent has the technology to defeat it. Now, in the case of Iran's neighbors across the Persian Gulf, they do have the proper missiles capable of taking out Iran's Medium range SAMs (I-Hawk and Shahin) from a safe distance. Now that doesnt necessarily mean Iran's SAMs are obsolete, simply that they arent invincible either..

Catsoo,

An interesting article indeed, thank you sir!
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Re: S-300 delivery news
« Reply #207 on: June 26, 2010, 11:03:01 PM »
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Now that doesnt necessarily mean Iran's SAMs are obsolete, simply that they arent invincible either..

and youd agree with me then that that statement can be pretty much applied to any army to some extent or another?
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« Reply #208 on: June 26, 2010, 11:33:14 PM »
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For the most part, yes. All SAMs are dangerous and should never be ignored, just some are much more dangeous than others (such as PAC, S-300/400, HQ-9 etc.). Even old SA-2s are still dangerous to an unprotected plane but not nearly as much to modern combat fighters (thanks to advancements in jamming technology and the SA-2s terrible lack of mobility). There are many factors that decide how dangerous a SAM system is including its range, overal technology, geography, command & control, the opposing combat aircraft.

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Re: S-300 delivery news
« Reply #209 on: June 27, 2010, 01:46:57 AM »
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Rusia Siempre ha traicionado al Mundo musulman arabe y, Como No atraicionar va un Irán, Rusia es sin Traidor Que traiciono una de Egipto Anuar Sadat ya El Nasser.

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Re: S-300 delivery news
« Reply #210 on: June 27, 2010, 03:24:37 AM »
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your statement makes no logic at all. I think you are a little confused about military equiptment. just because some countries have long range air defence missiles does not make midiam range air defence missiles obsolete. what does make air defence missiles "obsolete" is an aircraft's ability to defeat the missile SYSTEM as a hole. i am not sure that can be as easly done in case of s-200s that iran has because iran has been working hard to improve its

radar systems
optimization of missiles systems
data tranfer systems
interfunctionality of virious anti aircraft SYSTEMS (one missile system working with other missile system and other anti aircraft guns to detect and distroy or deter bandits.

I didn't mean Iranian medium range missiles won't work.Will Iran's enemy use planes of 70's or 80's era against Iran?No,everybody knows that very well.Having longer range missile means one has the ability to face off any threat regardless whatever aircraft it is.See why UAE is going to procure THAAD missile?

Is currently available medium range missiles are reliable enough to give 100% security?Regarding S-200, USA , ISRAEL knows its way of functioning very well and can adopt counter measures against it.That is its main weakness.

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« Reply #211 on: June 27, 2010, 10:02:52 PM »
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Rusia Siempre ha traicionado al Mundo musulman arabe y, Como No atraicionar va un Irán, Rusia es sin Traidor Que traiciono una de Egipto Anuar Sadat ya El Nasser.

Las relaciones de Irán con Rusia son más una necesidad que uno desea.
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« Reply #212 on: July 01, 2010, 04:29:33 AM »
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Russia might lose heavily for scrapping Iran defence contract


Moscow: Russia might have to pay a heavy price for scrapping its S-300 air defence missiles deal with Iran, frozen after the fresh UN Security Council, with the penalty for breaching the contract put at USD 400 million.

In addition, Iran could refuse to buy any more military products from Russia following this, resulting in an estimated annual loss of up to USD 500 million, a report warned today.

"The S-300 contract is worth some USD 800 million, while Russian experts estimate the penalty for breach of contract at USD 400 million," a report in the Nezavisimaya Gazeta paper said today, further pointing out that Tehran could turn to China for arms supplies, depriving Moscow a serious source of revenue.

Following the fresh UNSC sanctions slapped on Tehran on June 9 under US pressure, Moscow said it would freeze the delivery of S-300 missiles, an older Russian equivalent of US Patriot missiles.

Although the Foreign Ministry spokesman Andrei Nesterenko underscored that the new sanctions do not cover the sale of defensive weapons to Iran, but experts from the Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation -- the nodal watchdog for foreign arms supplies -- concluded that the missiles did come under the new set of sanctions.

However, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said the final decision in this regard has to be taken by President Dmitry Medvedev.

Moscow signed a contract on supplying Iran with at least five S-300 systems in December 2005, but nothing has been delivered.

The United States and Israel have urged Russia not to fulfil the contract, RIA Novosti reported.

The advanced version of the S-300 missile system, called S-300PMU1, has a range of over 150 kilometres (over 100 miles) and can intercept ballistic missiles and aircraft at low and high altitudes, making it effective in warding off air strikes.

Nezavisimaya Gazeta cautioned that Iran could refuse to buy any more military products from Russia, resulting in an estimated annual loss of up to USD 500 million.

Iranian Defence Minister Ahmad Wahidi last week warned that Russia would be responsible for the consequences of its failure to deliver S-300 surface-to-air missile systems to Iran.

Earlier in June, Iran banned its airlines from using Russian-built Tupolev Tu-154 airliners on domestic and international routes.

In addition, there have been reports of the imminent deportation of Russian pilots because the Islamic Republic already has "enough qualified flight personnel".



http://www.zeenews.com/news637694.html

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« Reply #213 on: July 01, 2010, 04:34:15 AM »
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Russia's refusal to deliver S-300 surface-to-air missile systems to Iran means Tehran could turn to China as its main arms supplier, depriving Moscow of a serious source of revenue, a Russian daily suggested on Wednesday.

Moscow said in mid-June it would freeze the delivery of S-300 air-defense systems following a new round of UN sanctions imposed on Tehran on June 9. Security Council Resolution 1929 imposed a fourth set of sanctions on Iran over its nuclear program, including tougher financial controls and an expanded arms embargo.

According to Nezavisimaya Gazeta, Russia's losses will amount to the value of the contract plus penalties for breach of contract.

The S-300 contract is worth some $800 million, while Russian experts estimate the penalty for breach of contract at $400 million.

Furthermore, Iran could refuse to buy any more military products from Russia, leading to an estimated loss of $300 million to $500 million a year.

In another indication of a trend that should be worrying to Moscow, experts pointed to Iran's decision to effectively end cooperation with Russia in the civil aviation sector.

Earlier in June, Iran banned its airlines from using Russian-built Tu-154 airliners on domestic and international routes. In addition, there have been reports of the imminent deportation of Russian pilots because the Islamic Republic already has "enough qualified flight personnel."

Iranian Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi warned on June 22 that Russia would be responsible for the consequences of its failure to deliver S-300 surface-to-air missile systems to Iran.

Russia initially said the delivery of S-300 systems to Iran would not be affected by the new UN sanctions since they are not included in the UN Register of Conventional Arms, but experts from the Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation concluded the missiles did come under the new set of sanctions.


Russia may lose billions for breaching missile contract with Iran


A Kremlin source echoed that opinion on June 11, while Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said it was up to the president to make the final decision.

Moscow signed a contract on supplying Iran with at least five S-300 systems in December 2005, but nothing has been delivered. The United States and Israel have urged Russia not to fulfill the contract.

The advanced version of the S-300 missile system, called S-300PMU1, has a range of over 150 kilometers (over 100 miles) and can intercept ballistic missiles and aircraft at low and high altitudes, making it effective in warding off airstrikes.

MOSCOW, June 30 (RIA Novosti)

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20100630/159641465.html

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Re: S-300 delivery news
« Reply #214 on: July 01, 2010, 05:44:45 AM »
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I am a bit puzzled by this since Iran has imported anything military from Russia since the TORM1 several years ago..And that was the first major contract in many years (since the mid-late 90's). So to me it just seems that the military relationship between Russia and Iran is reverting to what it was in the '90s when the US convinced Russia to end sales to Iran.

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« Reply #215 on: July 02, 2010, 01:15:20 PM »
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Iran to design long-range missiles

After Russia's controversial decision to freeze the delivery of S-300 defense systems, Iran unveils efforts aimed at self-sufficiency in passive air defense.

"At present, Iran is on the path to designing long-range missiles used in passive air defense," Iranian Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi told Mehr News Agency on Thursday.

In wake of fresh UN Security Council sanctions imposed against Iran in June over its nuclear program, Russia U-turned on an earlier assurance that the new resolution would not affect the deal.

The decision, as well as the Kremlin's "Yes" vote to the US-drafted sanctions resolution, drew sharp criticism from Iranian officials.

Tehran has warned Moscow -- a longtime trade and energy partner that helped build its southern Bushehr nuclear reactor -- that the sanctions are no excuse for reneging on the deal.

Earlier on Thursday, Speaker of the Iranian Parliament (Majlis) Ali Larijani stressed that the new UNSC measure would have no bearing on the delivery, as the contract had been penned well before the sanctions.

Russian Nezavisimaya Gazeta daily on Wednesday estimated Moscow's losses in breaching the contract to be over $1 billion, including a $400-million penalty likely imposed by Tehran.

The US and its European allies have embraced the "costly" Russian move, after convincing the veto-wielding permanent member of the Security Council to join Washington's sanctions campaign.

The Obama administration is seeking to pressure the Islamic Republic into halting its enrichment activities, a demand that Tehran argues has no legal grounds.

Iran rejects Western accusations that its nuclear program harbors a clandestine military aspect, arguing that as a member of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) it has the right to civilian nuclear energy.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=132985&sectionid=351020101

this has probably been discussed before but how good is the s 300 any way? i know what ever the case may be it will be a huge improvement to irans air defense but am just wondering is it really that good or is it largely hype?

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« Reply #216 on: July 02, 2010, 04:19:56 PM »
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Ive read somewhere that the Russians are planning to sell arms worth 1Bn to Yemen. If so, then perhaps US have helped Russia sell its weapons to third-parties(more like puppets) as a way to get Russia to change their attitude and relation with Iran.

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« Reply #217 on: July 02, 2010, 04:20:57 PM »
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http://en.rian.ru/russia/20100701/159652122.html


Vladimir Putin and Ali Abdullah Saleh

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Russia and Yemen could sign an arms contract worth over $1 billion, an international arms expert said on Thursday.

A Yemeni delegation led by President Ali Abdullah Saleh discussed sales of Russian arms to the Arab republic on Wednesday during the leader's short visit to Moscow.

Igor Korotchenko, head of a Moscow-based think tank on the international arms trade, said Yemen "is interested in a very broad range of Russian arms and military equipment," especially MiG-29 SMT jet fighters (up to 30), Mi-35 and Ka-52 helicopter gunships and Mi-17 military transport helicopters.

He said Saleh's wish list also included T-72M1 tanks, Kornet E antitank complexes, Smerch multiple launch rocket systems (up to 20 units), and BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles.

"In addition, Yemen is interested in building an air-defense system with [Russian made] S-300MPU and S-300 PMU1 surface-to-air missile complexes," Korotchenko said.

He said Yemen would also like to modernize the weaponry it bought from the Soviet Union, including BRDM-2 armored reconnaissance vehicles, whose number currently exceeds 1,000.

Furthermore, he said, Yemen needs warships, in particular high-speed patrol boats, to fight piracy in the Gulf of Aden.

MOSCOW, July 1 (RIA Novosti)

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Re: S-300 delivery news
« Reply #218 on: July 02, 2010, 06:20:12 PM »
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I HAVE ONLY ONE QUESTION TO ALL READERS OF THIS FORUM.

WHY IRAN IS SO COMPELLED TO BUY S-300 FROM COWARD RUSSIA.DOESN'T IRAN POSSESS THE CAPABILITY TO BUILD A NEW AIR DEFENSE OF ITS OWN?
   


In my opinion the primary reason Iran is compelled to buy the S-300 is to take a look at the latest Russian technology she can get her hands on, and reverse engineer its subsystems.  This is the fastest and cheapest way for Iran to absorb Russian high tech in to her military industrial compex.

Side note:   wasti reading your posts in "all caps" is very annoying and against forum rules.  Since you are new here the admins have probably gone easy on you, but please do not do this again.

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Re: S-300 delivery news
« Reply #219 on: July 02, 2010, 06:24:04 PM »
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Yemen is the second poorest country after Mauritania in arab world and look how much they spend for weapons which could be described mostly as modern.

This is great example of how arab leaders look at their people and no matter how poor they are they have to buy modern weapons to protect their thrones.

Saleh is buying weapons as if he is going to get into a war. :think:

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« Reply #220 on: July 04, 2010, 02:13:06 PM »
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speaking of admins i haven't seen a post from any in many days have you guys notice that or is it just me.

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« Reply #221 on: July 06, 2010, 01:33:24 PM »
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speaking of admins i haven't seen a post from any in many days have you guys notice that or is it just me.

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« Reply #222 on: July 06, 2010, 01:52:00 PM »
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It must be just you!



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« Reply #223 on: July 06, 2010, 04:02:04 PM »
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The Iranian. I don think its wrong by a user to say how the rules work. This is a good thing, unless there is used bad manners and arrogance and these things that can upset others.

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« Reply #224 on: July 10, 2010, 02:45:29 PM »
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All off topic posts are deleted ! Please stay on topic!


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