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Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« on: September 10, 2011, 05:09:16 AM »
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unfortunately another crash,
this time on to a square inside Tabriz city.
fortunately the pilot has ejected and is live
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سقوط یک هواپیما در داخل شهر تبریز
یک هواپیما در داخل شهر تبریز سقوط کرد.

به گزارش مشرق به نقل از مهر، ‌دقایقی پیش یک هواپیمای نظامی در میدان آذربایجان تبریز که در مجاورت فرودگاه این شهر قرار دارد سقوط کرد.

به گفته شاهدان عینی خلبان خواپیما توانست قبل از سقوط خود را با چتر به بیرون پرتاب کند.

 از هفته گذشته مانور یگانهای نیروی هوایی شمالغرب کشور در حال اجراست و این هواپیما نیز در حال انجام ماموریت در این مانور بوده است.

اینکه نوع هواپیما چه بوده و سقوط آن خسارات مالی و جانی دیگری داشته معلوم نیست.

اخبار تکمیلی متعاقبا اعلام خواهد شد.
http://www.mashreghnews.ir/fa/news/65858
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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2011, 09:28:28 AM »
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it seems a F-5 has crashed after take-off.
Iranian new agancies says it has been a trainer jet.

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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2011, 02:10:57 PM »
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This accident  happened today, Saturday September 10 2011, in Tabriz during the IRIAF maneuver.

Aircraft type is F-5E from Dezful. Pilot ejected safely and rescued from fire by the brave locals. Cause of the carsh is most likely engine failure on take-off.

Here is an amazing phone video seconds after the crash in Tabriz:

Military plane crash in Tabriz, People try to resuscitate the pilot Sep 10, 2011 Small | Large
« Last Edit: September 10, 2011, 02:54:22 PM by Fulcrum Pilot »

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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2011, 02:21:21 PM »
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Thank god the pilot is safe. Considering some of these plane's age and other factors, IRIAF has a very good record on number of accidents. These sorts of accidents happen much more often in the best air forces with the latest planes!

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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2011, 02:33:40 PM »
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Here are some great shots from MEHR news.

So the assumtion is true, engine compressor failure.
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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2011, 02:57:07 PM »
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fu*k the plane.. is the pilot alright?

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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2011, 03:57:25 PM »
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Based on the video, the seat malfunctioned and was not detached from the pilot. He is really lucky he is alive and that the people pulled him from fire so fast. I realy hope he is OK.

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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2011, 04:00:48 PM »
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I'm glad the pilot survived and that the plane didnt into a crowded town
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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2011, 04:33:29 PM »
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I don't want to create new conspiracy theories, but since years not a single ejection seat in iranian american aircraft worked perperly. Iran should definetly consider obtaining them from another source...
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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2011, 04:48:07 PM »
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The photos show an engine failure, but if looked sequentially, the third photo shows the pilot had managed the engine trouble somehow and as a matter of fact was confident enough to retract his landing gears. Besides, F-5s operates two engines, the pilot could have shut off the problem engine. I think it is premature to think the ejection seat did not work. Iranian pilots are famous for their dedication to eject at the last moment in emergency situations. We have already seen many of such cases (SU-24 crash landing in Mehrabad).
The pilot could have ejected the last moment. I don't believe the pilot was in the the cockpit when the crash happened. He could not have survived in the impact and with much fuel in the tanks.

I am curious to read the official report. Though I don't believe we will ever see the report.

Again, thank god the pilot is OK!



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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2011, 08:15:09 PM »
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Thank God the pilot's alive and safe..Planes can be replaced..Pilots can't..

Having said that, Iran needs to pump more money into the airforce to obtain/manufacture better equipment..When it comes to the defence of a country, no amount of money is too expensive...

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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2011, 09:55:00 PM »
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Since I'm still worried about his condition, I hope that he is alive and will fully recover from the accident. It appears that he wanted to bring the plane down in this uncrowded area and therefore ejected in the very last moment. I think he also dropped fuel before the crash, otherwise the crash site would have burned like hell. He is a brave pilot!
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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2011, 04:44:29 AM »
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Apparently the aircraft was not totally disintegrated as we had presumed:





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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2011, 07:05:08 AM »
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IMHO, it looks like the airframe from the cockpit back survived the crash while the cockpit and nose section don't seem present on the trailer, suggesting the aircraft crashed nose-first (perhaps nose-gear failed?).

Cheers for the pilot's safe escape.
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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2011, 07:21:10 AM »
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Glad the pilot made it. He had ejected, otherwise he would not have survived that. Probably ejected at the very last moment.

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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2011, 09:01:24 AM »
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Hope the pilot will fly again! Its simply impossible to use those old planes forever, with this attrition the IRIAF will cease to exist in 5-10 years. 

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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2011, 12:45:21 PM »
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F5s are still in use because of its size, not because they cannot be replaced. Are we even sure it's an aircraft malfunction.
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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2011, 02:31:52 PM »
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Hope maneuvres will go on as planned and without any more incidents, InshaAllah.

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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2011, 07:18:26 PM »
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how often does this happen?
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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2011, 09:15:11 PM »
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how often does this happen?
planes have expiry dates aswell.. i think this is the end of F4 and F5 and some of those russian jets mission!

we are screwed if we dont replace them soon!

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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2011, 09:58:40 PM »
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i think this is the end of F4 and F5 and some of those russian jets mission!

we are screwed if we dont replace them soon!

Totally non-sense!



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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2011, 10:45:00 PM »
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Totally non-sense!



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they are old.. we need upgrade!

dont you think??

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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2011, 03:10:36 AM »
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they are old.. we need upgrade!

dont you think??

Any nation can use the latest designed aircrafts, but wishes most of time don't come true. F-4s, F-5s, Mig-29s and SU-24s are still the backbone of many air forces in the world.

People must get it out of their system, Iran CANNOT BUY NEW AIR FORCE, period! Even if Iran is able to buy say a 100 new planes, Iran still does not stand much chance against its current enemies in the air. IRIAF role for now is not to accomplish air superiority and it still could not do it with a new 100 air frames bought from abroad, technology that Iran's enemies would know inside out.

Iran is best to modify its own frames and keep the enemy wondering than purchasing new frames with their secrets at the disposal of Iran's enemies be it Russian, American French or even Chinese technologies.

Have a bit of trust in the people at the helm of IRI armed forces who are some of the most experienced in the military world. They know what they are doing! Iran has made major strides in manufacturing defence systems year after year so much that it has attracted a good portion of defence discussions in the world today.  This is from a country that did not even produce hand grenades let alone radars, missiles, tanks and so forth at the beginning of Iran/Iraq war.

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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2011, 06:39:55 AM »
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Aircraft fighters are a thing of the past, Iran has the unique chance to mass produce advanced UAV's and teach the 13 million basiji's how to control them from the ground.

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Re: Crash of a military aircraft inside Tabriz
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2011, 09:46:29 AM »
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Any nation can use the latest designed aircrafts, but wishes most of time don't come true. F-4s, F-5s, Mig-29s and SU-24s are still the backbone of many air forces in the world.

People must get it out of their system, Iran CANNOT BUY NEW AIR FORCE, period! Even if Iran is able to buy say a 100 new planes, Iran still does not stand much chance against its current enemies in the air. IRIAF role for now is not to accomplish air superiority and it still could not do it with a new 100 air frames bought from abroad, technology that Iran's enemies would know inside out.

Iran is best to modify its own frames and keep the enemy wondering than purchasing new frames with their secrets at the disposal of Iran's enemies be it Russian, American French or even Chinese technologies.

Have a bit of trust in the people at the helm of IRI armed forces who are some of the most experienced in the military world. They know what they are doing! Iran has made major strides in manufacturing defence systems year after year so much that it has attracted a good portion of defence discussions in the world today.  This is from a country that did not even produce hand grenades let alone radars, missiles, tanks and so forth at the beginning of Iran/Iraq war.

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