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« Reply #100 on: April 22, 2013, 01:59:53 PM »
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Why  they dont first show, jet trainer, and gain some credibility for a start ?

Fateh submarine was first time anounced in julian november of 2011. Then it was said, it will be ready by avgust september , of the current year. Now project will may be ready by the end of iranian year, which is next march. Custom of making meaningless anouncment should be put to an end, at least till some breakthroug announcmentst take place



He didn't say Fateh will be unveiled by the end of the year, he says we try to produce most of parts of this submarine till the end of the year.
I think he means mass production of subsystems and parts of Fateh submarine. And most likely first Fateh will be unveiled this summer.

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« Reply #101 on: April 22, 2013, 02:10:38 PM »
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He didn't say Fateh will be unveiled by the end of the year, he says we try to produce most of parts of this submarine till the end of the year.

Thats even worse. There are issues with parth production, and what about putting parts together, checking the joint precision, tuning submaarine subsistems ... I would be very pleased if unveiling is to be this summer, but this is unlikely in my view

I remeber the news appeared in farsnews Ahmad Vahidi claiming fateh submarine is to be unveiled in coming weeks. Now weeks turning into years
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« Reply #102 on: April 22, 2013, 03:36:49 PM »
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وی در این خصوص که چه زمانی زیردریایی 500 تنی به بهره برداری عملی می‌رسد، گفت: سعی خواهیم کرد که تا پایان سال جاری بخش زیادی از قطعات این زیردریایی و تولید شود.


To be frank, the Farsi passage is misleading to say the least. It is an incomplete sentence!



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« Reply #103 on: April 22, 2013, 04:08:49 PM »
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You are right Catsoo. I sense some censorship.
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« Reply #104 on: April 23, 2013, 03:06:47 PM »
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Two more Iranian jet fighters are under way!

http://www.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=13920203001103


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« Reply #105 on: April 23, 2013, 04:03:01 PM »
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TEHRAN (FNA)- Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi announced on Tuesday that Iranian experts and engineers are working on two new home-made aircraft which will be unveiled soon in future.




Brigadier General Vahidi made the remarks in a meeting with members of the Iranian Parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission here in Tehran today.

"After the unveiling of Qaher fighter jet, we have been designing and manufacturing two other planes," the Iranian defense minister said.


On February 2, Iran unveiled an advanced home-made fighter jet, named Qaher 313, in a ceremony attended by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Addressing a ceremony to unveil Qaher 313 on February 2, the Iranian defense minister said all production stages, including designing and manufacturing of the new aircraft had been carried out by Iranian experts at the Aviation Industries Organization of the Defense Ministry.

As regards the specification of Qaher 313, the minister said, "The advanced aircraft with an advanced appearance has a very small Radar Cross Section (RCS) and is capable of operating and flying in low-altitude."

The minister added that high-tech materials and electro-ionic systems were used in the aircraft which is capable of landing and taking off from short runways.

Vahidi noted that Qaher 313 enjoys high combat capability and can carry home-made weapons.

Vahidi also told reporters on the sidelines of the ceremony that Qaher 313 is able to rival with the most advanced fighter jets in shape and structure, adding that its shape has gifted the aircraft small RCS.

Radar cross section (RCS) is a measure of how detectable an object is with a Radar. A larger RCS indicates that an object is more easily detected. An object reflects a limited amount of radar energy.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9107163898


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« Reply #106 on: April 23, 2013, 04:03:57 PM »
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I suppose these are
1) new saeqeh version and 2) a new trainer.

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« Reply #107 on: April 23, 2013, 05:04:40 PM »
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its possible that they show nothing,.
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this is the fixed video.
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« Reply #108 on: April 23, 2013, 05:10:29 PM »
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its possible that they show nothing,.
As usual very optimistic and progressive stance from our Ari.

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« Reply #109 on: April 23, 2013, 05:38:17 PM »
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I now have my most hated word; soon.

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« Reply #110 on: April 23, 2013, 10:42:28 PM »
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I think by "medium size fighter" they could very well mean the FB-44 project as it appears in my reply#90 in this thread!

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« Reply #111 on: April 23, 2013, 10:48:01 PM »
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which is reply 10079?
maximum reply in this thread is 110.

I went back a page and saw a picture you posted of a small mockup on reply 89. Is that what you mean?

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« Reply #112 on: April 24, 2013, 02:16:13 AM »
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Farbod, it is now corrected!


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« Reply #113 on: April 24, 2013, 10:00:59 AM »
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I found another picture of the "FB-44" project.


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« Reply #114 on: April 24, 2013, 10:55:28 AM »
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Many sources,some of them very reliable,are sugested that  Iran also has spent a lot of resources and time to develop one multirole aircraft 2+ mach capable,with A-A capatibility but primary as tactical bomber,something between F-4,SU-24 & MIG-29  in terms of capatibiliti but like I said with primary role as bomber,and that in fact this aircraft will be mass produced in future.
Before day ago as reply at posts from many our members who brought out various theories in discousion that Shafaq has evolved in Q-313,Kowsar,Azarkash 88, in future Saeqe 2 and at the end in almost every Iranian project I was said that Iran has more different project  for aircrafts.
Regardless  it is possible that Shafaq evolved into some  project or will evolve in the future ,I said Iran certianly has more projects for combat aircraft,some of them for near future some at long terms,I also said that every one if looks closely can see right logic in this projects.
Iran if want to have a strong Air Force, which will evolve and every day to be better,it must at the time start with projects for aircrafts that will meet the needs of IRIAF,and they do exactly that,and if we look at the current IRIAF needs and the needs for the near future,we can assume how many projects are underway ,my opinion is at least 4 but probably 6 in total,and conclusion is based on the analysis of the existing projects and minimal IRIAF needs,I always say we know only very little about Iran miltary and there is much more what we don't know so this is all based on known facts and information.I follow Iran military very long time,and I know what I'm talk about,you shoud only look at the western and other analysis from 10-15 years ago or more and it will be clear what I'm talking about.
Honestly it's disaster and it is 99% based on data about the procurement of weapons before the revolution and counting the weapons  that Iran displayed itself,now is little diffirent and more accurate than before but it's very similar situation.
They can't wait till production of new engines which will be installed in serial aircraft,no body do that,they work ,like every other country, at more paralel projects and with engines they have,for prototype and low rate production they can use engines they can produce now and even with much lower power then it is projected,also imported engines now used for any existing aircraft can be used if can meet the requirements.
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