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Re: IRIAF F-4s
« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2011, 10:46:24 PM »
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In the last photo I posted, I see the refueling probe attached to F-5 From F-4E's areal refueling tank
to illustrate how it is done!


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« Reply #51 on: January 02, 2012, 08:35:10 AM »
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IRIAF F-4E Phantom (part 1) Small | Large


IRIAF F-4E Phantom (part 2) Small | Large
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Re: IRIAF F-4s
« Reply #52 on: January 02, 2012, 08:36:25 AM »
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^^^ Does anyone know what that sensor is under the wing at 1:00 in the 2nd Video above??
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Re: IRIAF F-4s
« Reply #53 on: January 02, 2012, 04:29:41 PM »
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I noticed the following in the last air maneuvers in Tabriz. The Drop fuel tank under the center bay looks much different than
I ever remember.




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Re: IRIAF F-4s
« Reply #54 on: January 02, 2012, 06:56:05 PM »
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Looks like a fairly standard 600 gallon centerline-tank. It looks a little distorted but that might just be the angle of the picture / quality of the image, your call.
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Re: IRIAF F-4s
« Reply #55 on: January 03, 2012, 11:17:04 PM »
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Quote from: maydayfire on January 02, 2012, 08:36:25 AM
^^^ Does anyone know what that sensor is under the wing at 1:00 in the 2nd Video above??

According to RH53D from IDF, it's a 'combat documentation camera' and there should be another one fitted to the rear of the aircraft that looks backwards. Apparently they were/are used both for recon as well as BDA (battle damage assessment). RH53D also notes that in some of the early incarnations they would of had to sacrifice one of the AIM-7s carried under the fuselage (such as in this picture), but this looks like one of the later models that wouldn't have to do that.
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Re: IRIAF F-4s
« Reply #56 on: January 04, 2012, 02:15:00 AM »
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Ayyash,

Pay attention to the lower section of the tank. It is gradually having smaller across section. Also the rear of the tank does not
have smooth curvatures.

Compare with the image bellow!


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Re: IRIAF F-4s
« Reply #57 on: January 04, 2012, 03:23:34 AM »
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Possibly, but I'm not sure that I wouldn't write that off to the angle of the camera and the overall low quality of the image. It could be an EW pod in the same vein as the Sahab or some sort of buddy-buddy system but i'm inclined to say that a cigar is most likely just a cigar in this case.

Do you have any other screenshots from the video?
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Re: IRIAF F-4s
« Reply #58 on: January 04, 2012, 03:46:00 PM »
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Ayyash,

The image was from a video in the last air force maneuvers in Tabriz. I am sure the video is still in that appropriate thread.

To me, it looks more like a PGM or a new cruise missile.

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Re: IRIAF F-4s
« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2012, 10:54:21 AM »
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Chronological Listing of Iranian Air Force McDonnell-Douglas F-4 Phantom II

Losses & Ejections

http://www.ejection-history.org.uk/country-by-country/iranian_f_4_phantom_losses.htm


I think this is a great find!

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« Reply #60 on: March 14, 2012, 06:20:15 PM »
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Iranian retired F-4 on truck
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« Reply #61 on: March 14, 2012, 06:25:13 PM »
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Looks like it is on its way to be a display.


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Re: IRIAF F-4s
« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2012, 06:40:09 PM »
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Quote from: Catsoo on March 14, 2012, 06:25:13 PM
Looks like it is on its way to be a display.
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Municipality of Tehran is constructing "Scared Defence Garden Museum".They were transporting this F-4 to there,Coincidentally I was there and took this image in front of it. There are other fighters like F-5 inside the museum too. This museum hasn't been yet inaugurated. but two years ago  they opened it for people temporarily during Scared Defence week.
Here you can find some images of this garden museum that have been taken on that time.
http://www.pic.persianv.com/view/000462.php
If you search about it in Farsi you can find interesting information about design of this garden museum.
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« Reply #63 on: March 27, 2012, 08:58:48 PM »
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3-6704 / 86906 (cn 3357) It has received two artworks (which are seen on its engines air intakes) after its fully modernization program. Iranian Air Force is last operator of the Phantom II type in the world, all of its handful F-4Ds are all gathered in 101st Tactical Fighter Squadron in 10th Tactical Fighter Base "Konarak". IRIAF has planned to do this life etxtension project on all of its F-4Ds , which is allowing them to remain in service until 2020!!


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« Reply #64 on: March 27, 2012, 10:46:13 PM »
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Quote from: Ayyash on March 27, 2012, 08:58:48 PM



This one is a collector! I think Iran is the only airforce to operate the F-4Ds.
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« Reply #65 on: March 31, 2012, 06:20:27 PM »
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Hohoo, iranian F-4 in german online-newspaper ^^ Hm, is there a copyright violation?  :sarc:




http://www.fr-online.de/israel-iran-konflikt/11950234,11950234.html

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« Reply #66 on: April 01, 2012, 09:14:26 AM »
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Quote from: Ich on March 31, 2012, 06:20:27 PM
Hohoo, iranian F-4 in german online-newspaper ^^ Hm, is there a copyright violation?  :sarc:




http://www.fr-online.de/israel-iran-konflikt/11950234,11950234.html



It's a former Luftwaffe F-4 E disguised into an IRIAF Phantom ;)
A brief note about the phantom, during simulated air combats, Luftwaffe Phantoms shot down USAF F-15.
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« Reply #67 on: April 01, 2012, 10:22:40 AM »
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Quote from: kaman on April 01, 2012, 09:14:26 AM

It's a former Luftwaffe F-4 E disguised into an IRIAF Phantom ;)
A brief note about the phantom, during simulated air combats, Luftwaffe Phantoms shot down USAF F-15.

lol so why buying F-15?  :D
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« Reply #68 on: April 01, 2012, 01:53:09 PM »
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Quote from: Ich on April 01, 2012, 10:22:40 AM
lol so why buying F-15?  :D

To show off? Seriously the F-14 and F-15 were meant to replace the F-4 but that didn't really happen.
Of course the F15 is technologically superior the f-4 but technology doesn't top everything. The F-4 is a solid truck and the most recent versions have been upgraded.
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Re: IRIAF F-4s
« Reply #69 on: April 01, 2012, 02:30:03 PM »
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No combat aircraft has such a record in A2A combat as F-15. It is totally in its own class, or even, a couple of classes above the next ones..
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« Reply #70 on: April 01, 2012, 02:35:58 PM »
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Hehe, "solid truck" sounds good  :D I remember how loud the phantoms were when they whooshed past in low-altitude flight around Spandahlem in the early eighties. At that time low-altitude flights were allowed in many places in germany and the houses around Spangdahlem get paid fourfold and eightfold glazing by german state ^^
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« Reply #71 on: April 01, 2012, 09:06:27 PM »
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Quote from: mustavaris on April 01, 2012, 02:30:03 PM
No combat aircraft has such a record in A2A combat as F-15. It is totally in its own class, or even, a couple of classes above the next ones..

They usually use the Kill ratio. The tomcat claims an amazing 164-1 kill ratio, (159 kills by Iranian F-14s to 1 los)..(Farzad Bishop).
The F-14  was lost to engine stall then gunned down by a Mig-21. Iraqi pilots made more kill claims but not yet verified.
The F-15 ha a reported 105:0 kill ratio (At least an Israeli F15 was severely damaged and had to make emergency landing), Syrian Mig-23 and Serbian Mig-29 pilots made kill claims but they were never verified.
Book: F-15 Eagle Units in Combat
By Steve Davies
Jul 8, 2004, 08:57


But it's worth being noted that the F-15s and the F-14s never met their match in real combat.
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« Reply #72 on: April 01, 2012, 09:15:37 PM »
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Quote from: Ich on April 01, 2012, 02:35:58 PM
Hehe, "solid truck" sounds good  :D I remember how loud the phantoms were when they whooshed past in low-altitude flight around Spandahlem in the early eighties. At that time low-altitude flights were allowed in many places in germany and the houses around Spangdahlem get paid fourfold and eightfold glazing by german state ^^

It's a loud smoky diesel truck..;that's why the German F-4 pilots wear a thick goat leather jacket. their Iranian counterparts wear an American model Avirex/Alpha industries type jacket ... I wonder why Iranian pilots never wear leather jackets ... I’m getting off the subject
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« Reply #73 on: April 01, 2012, 09:58:46 PM »
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Top gun?  :think:
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« Reply #74 on: April 02, 2012, 12:51:15 AM »
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Quote from: Ich on April 01, 2012, 09:58:46 PM
Top gun?  :think:

The jackets on the Top Gun movie are far from being USAF standard jackets! they are closer what the P-47 or P-50 pilots would wear.
Iranian equipment including the jackets are very close to USAF standards (alpha 2b Jacket?).

The Luftwaffe F-4 and mig-29 pilots have their own jackets, including the green/grey goat leather jacket (the one with side pocket is dedicated to civilians). A few years ago I picked up one at a military surplus store and they are really top quality.

I believe people were more stylish in the good old days. here are some Iranian cadets in the early 40s!


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