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Re: IRIAF Mirage F-1
« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2011, 02:46:50 PM »
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lulldapull,

You do know you were provocative. You also know the rules.

We cannot spend hours online to try to mediate quarrels between members who ultimately highjack the threads and disturb others.

Is this common sense too difficult to grasp?


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Re: IRIAF Mirage F-1
« Reply #51 on: December 21, 2011, 03:59:01 PM »
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@lulldapull

What about that?

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/how/stories/cormorant.html

Does it making it worth for Iran to invest $ 75 billions (even more) in a complete R&D/productionline inkl. building some 200 piece of an old 3,5 gen Mirage F1 airplane?

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Re: IRIAF Mirage F-1
« Reply #52 on: December 21, 2011, 05:09:20 PM »
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from http://asymmetronix.livejournal.com/1134.html:
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U(Stealth)AV (tricopter?): "Karrar 110" (and "Eagle Ray")? ....  small enough to be deployable from a submarine as well? Obviously loitering drones over enemy territory with air-supremacy lacking must have stealth capability!
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...for RECON & TARGETING

http://multicopter.org/wiki/Multicopter_Table
http://www.iran defence dot n3t/showthread.php?t=64903
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sofreh_Mahi
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Re: IRIAF Mirage F-1
« Reply #53 on: December 21, 2011, 10:45:31 PM »
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http://asymmetronix.livejournal.com/1134.html

Interesting statement. So asymmetronics also think that Ghadir-sub is equipped with C801/YJ8 Q?

And yes, Sofreh Mahi is the direction where all ride along in the next years.
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Re: IRIAF Mirage F-1
« Reply #54 on: December 23, 2011, 01:09:51 PM »
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Interesting statement. So asymmetronics also think that Ghadir-sub is equipped with C801/YJ8 Q?

Yes, Ghadir's tubes seems to be the right diameter but, as has been pointed out in IMF, there's not much room left for spare missiles. You could temporarily attach them to the outside of the hull (and even launch them from there) but it would compromise the sub's stealth profile and reduce its chance of escaping after an attack.

Besides, the sub will have problems acquiring and illuminating mobile, "over the horizon" targets with a long rang missile (whereas a shorter range missile would again, make escaping more difficult). Here's where a (stealth, VTOL) drone would come in handy!
Stationary, predesignated targets wouldn't be a problem of course. The sub would in fact act as a -hopefully reusable- range extender for the missile.
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Re: IRIAF Mirage F-1
« Reply #55 on: February 21, 2012, 03:00:13 PM »
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Ayyash have u received my PM regarding the Mirage F1 thread ?
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Re: IRIAF Mirage F-1
« Reply #56 on: February 21, 2012, 04:21:06 PM »
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Yes I did, thank you.
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Re: IRIAF Mirage F-1
« Reply #57 on: March 27, 2012, 07:24:40 PM »
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Re: IRIAF Mirage F-1
« Reply #58 on: March 27, 2012, 08:42:50 PM »
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Wow, a "new" F-1 in service. Notice what base it's assigned to - TAB-10 in Chahbahar; they must be beefing up the F-4Ds currently assigned there. Maybe this is an attempt to project more capability over the Gulf of Oman, possibly with anti-shipping capability.
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Re: IRIAF Mirage F-1
« Reply #59 on: March 28, 2012, 01:09:28 AM »
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EQ-5 .. one of the rarest of its kind ....first to have the AM-39 strike ... interesting to know if  this aircraft is fitted with original the cyrano IVM  fitted or the Iraq's customised Ramadan version ...

anyone knows  what became of  Cyrano-IVM3 fitted Venezuelan Air Force's Mirage-50E/DV  ?
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« Reply #60 on: March 31, 2012, 07:07:18 AM »
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« Reply #61 on: April 01, 2012, 06:50:30 AM »
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Ayyash I enjoyed your posts...very well thought out...thanx :)
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Re: IRIAF Mirage F-1
« Reply #62 on: April 17, 2012, 08:22:47 AM »
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Hi to all,

I read in some int'l mags about a IRIAF Mirage 1B that was painted in the Ghost/Grey scheme but was subsequently repainted back in the Desert scheme, did anyone here have a pic of that Mirage in the Ghost/Grey scheme? 

Thank you in advance.
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Re: IRIAF Mirage F-1
« Reply #63 on: April 23, 2012, 06:39:55 AM »
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Quote from: Ayyash on March 27, 2012, 08:42:50 PM
Wow, a "new" F-1 in service. Notice what base it's assigned to - TAB-10 in Chahbahar; they must be beefing up the F-4Ds currently assigned there. Maybe this is an attempt to project more capability over the Gulf of Oman, possibly with anti-shipping capability.



nice catch with the base # on the tail...    so i looked at Chahbahar and noticed a Dec 2011 image on google earth...

a lot more images of F-4s than previous images...

also noticed a P-3 ... gr8 shot of it on the parking apron...    this is in line with the newest AO for IRN 1st Naval District...
IRGCN has Gulf and IRIN is projection force and has Gulf of Oman and beyond...
getting off subject...
both aircraft F-4 and F1 are anti-ship capable...  nice catch and nice image of F1  ...my two bits, thx.
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« Reply #64 on: April 23, 2012, 02:04:42 PM »
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A few years ago Dassault proposed Iran with more F-1s but the Iranian air force showed no interest.
It's a relatively good aircraft which can hold up its own against F-16s in hands of experimented pilots.
I like the look of this aircraft.
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Re: IRIAF Mirage F-1
« Reply #65 on: April 26, 2012, 06:05:22 AM »
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here's another image of the Mirage F-1 (same aircraft I'm pretty sure) with markings showing Chahbahar as its home base...

image from 2012 Dezful Air Show according to previous postings


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Re: IRIAF Mirage F-1
« Reply #66 on: April 26, 2012, 09:42:44 AM »
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Quote from: Simple Bubba on April 23, 2012, 06:39:55 AM


i looked at Chahbahar and noticed a Dec 2011 image on google earth...

a lot more images of F-4s than previous images...

also noticed a P-3 ... gr8 shot of it on the parking apron...    this is in line with the newest AO for IRN 1st Naval District...
IRGCN has Gulf and IRIN is projection force and has Gulf of Oman and beyond...
getting off subject...
both aircraft F-4 and F1 are anti-ship capable...  nice catch and nice image of F1  ...my two bits, thx.

I can only imagine the F4D's at Chahbahar  and the F4E's at Bushehr  are 1 time anti-ship platforms aimed at USN assets in PG & GO.   A USN carrier operating off Bahrain, for example, would have less than 10 mins to react to a Phantom out of Bushehr. It would definately get a shot off.
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« Reply #67 on: April 27, 2012, 02:07:33 PM »
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In P.G anything biggier than patrol boat is siting duck and woud not survive less than 5 min.,if you think they send one f/4 and wait to see what woud happen you dont understan nothing,range of their air lunched ASM  is greater than distance from Iran to Arab country on other side Gulf and that  is  enaghf for safe atack and before any war in P.G USNAVY will move their ships to open sea because otherwise they will be in fire range of every artilery greater than 100 mm,AScM,ASBM...etc.
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Re: IRIAF Mirage F-1
« Reply #68 on: April 27, 2012, 02:30:00 PM »
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Quote from: Black Aces on April 17, 2012, 08:22:47 AM
Hi to all,

I read in some int'l mags about a IRIAF Mirage 1B that was painted in the Ghost/Grey scheme but was subsequently repainted back in the Desert scheme, did anyone here have a pic of that Mirage in the Ghost/Grey scheme? 

Thank you in advance.

Im not sure but I think This is that Mirage you talk about it
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« Reply #69 on: April 27, 2012, 02:32:04 PM »
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Quote from: nelsa on April 27, 2012, 02:07:33 PM
In P.G anything biggier than patrol boat is siting duck and woud not survive less than 5 min.,

True in the Straits not so for rest of Gulf. Given enough warning the USN can defeat any available Iranian ASM. The key to a sucessful hit is to minimize reaction time. I'm speculating that an F4 flying at mach 2 may be able to launch a point blank ASM shot prior to being destroyed.  I don't believe the Qader or the Noor are balistic and would provide too much reaction time if launched from Iranian coast. They would take at least 10 mins to transit the gulf.

Or they may both be used in attempts to overwhelm USN countermeasures with multiple targets.

Why else would the Phantom's be deployed on the PG?  They certainly aren't capable of air superiority missions?
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« Reply #70 on: April 27, 2012, 02:57:27 PM »
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« Reply #71 on: April 27, 2012, 07:42:42 PM »
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Quote from: Salamis480 on April 27, 2012, 02:32:04 PM
True in the Straits not so for rest of Gulf. Given enough warning the USN can defeat any available Iranian ASM.

Yes, you are right and all USNS are save... ::)
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Re: IRIAF Mirage F-1
« Reply #72 on: April 28, 2012, 11:38:24 AM »
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Quote from: M-ATF on April 27, 2012, 02:30:00 PM
Im not sure but I think it is that Mirage you talk about it

This one's wearing a rather unusual camo (French Blue)!
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« Reply #73 on: May 07, 2012, 04:12:33 AM »
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« Reply #74 on: May 07, 2012, 04:37:42 AM »
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