Author Topic: Saeqeh (Read 13007 times)

Ayyash · « **on:** August 01, 2009, 05:25:01 AM »

Saeqeh Light Ground-Attack / Fighter-Bomber
More pictures as soon as imageshack gets its act together, 5-30 min

Username · « **Reply #1 on:** August 08, 2009, 03:57:32 AM »

Is the prototype of the 5th generation of Saegheh finally built?

Any specs?

Ayyash · « **Reply #2 on:** August 31, 2009, 02:32:15 AM »

Could the "bulge" visible here be some sort of R.W.R?

Catsoo · « **Reply #3 on:** August 31, 2009, 03:01:10 AM »

Ayyash,

Which bulge?

catsoo

Ayyash · « **Reply #4 on:** August 31, 2009, 03:04:44 AM »

Quote from: Catsoo on August 31, 2009, 03:01:10 AM

Ayyash,

Which bulge?

catsoo

The one below the canted tail.
I highly doubt it is a rear warning radar, but i've been wrong many times before.

Eagle2009 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 17, 2010, 05:17:44 AM »

Drawing from Flight Global they drew not long after the first flight of Saeqeh:

Catsoo · « **Reply #6 on:** February 17, 2010, 07:04:00 AM »

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The one below the canted tail.
I highly doubt it is a rear warning radar, but i've been wrong many times before.

No, those are tail mount fairings.

Catsoo

MioChen · « **Reply #7 on:** February 17, 2010, 10:16:51 AM »

I'm just waiting for our new stealth fighter.

Username · « **Reply #8 on:** February 20, 2010, 06:12:36 PM »

Quote from: MioChen on February 17, 2010, 10:16:51 AM

I'm just waiting for our new stealth fighter.

You have to be really patient for that! By then the boy in the picture of your avatar may be a much older person! LOL.

Catsoo · « **Reply #9 on:** February 20, 2010, 11:13:54 PM »

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Drawing from Flight Global they drew not long after the first flight of Saeqeh:

Eagle,

can't see your attachment!

catsoo

aryana · « **Reply #10 on:** February 21, 2010, 12:55:02 AM »

i dont think airforce is our piroty right now what do you guys think

Eagle2009 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 21, 2010, 08:13:08 AM »

Fairly new pics of Saeqeh lined up

fadel · « **Reply #12 on:** February 21, 2010, 11:00:48 AM »

can u put some information about it?

Shirazi · « **Reply #13 on:** February 21, 2010, 11:28:05 AM »

Quote from: fadel on February 21, 2010, 11:00:48 AM

can u put some information about it?

There are five of them. The first one was built from scratch, the other 4 were either Azarashk or F-5Es converted into saeqehs. They're not intended for operations because only one of them has the ability to carry armament. Each of them have slight modifications which indicates that they are technology demonstrators or test beds. Some people also claim that it has fly by wire because of the addition of the second vertical tail.

The Azarashk is the name given to the F-5E reverse engineered and built in Iran, originally they intended on building 30, although for one reason or another the production was scaled back.

It has been suggested that the Saeqeh is a front for the Azarashk, because technically, reverse engineering the F-5E is illegal whereas the production of the Saeqeh isn't as it can be considered as a new plane.

Although i think that the Saeqeh is mostly for political purposes and a PR stunt and they also serve as a test bed for new technologies.

aryana · « **Reply #14 on:** February 21, 2010, 12:03:47 PM »

can we use rd-33 on those

Eagle2009 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 21, 2010, 04:59:30 PM »

You would have to completely redesign the main fuseluge but yea you could fit One RD-33 back there...

aryana · « **Reply #16 on:** February 21, 2010, 06:25:52 PM »

so why dont we do it do we produce the engine they are using now or they are not worth the trouble

Eagle2009 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 21, 2010, 06:31:55 PM »

Iran doesnt produce the RD-33 (which is the engine the MiG-29 uses) they would have to import them from Russia...which indeed was reported a year or two ago but no officials from Russia or Iran confirmed the story..just unreliable media sources so likely there was no purchase of engines and in this tense international climate its unlikely the Russians are going to sell Iran a large number of RD-33s (not to mention that Russian is very protective of its engine tech. )...Its quite possible Iran is capable of building the J85 but no one knows besides..the Saeghe is likely not meant to be an operational fighter anyway.

aryana · « **Reply #18 on:** February 21, 2010, 06:36:02 PM »

does iran want to produce a jet fighter and foot the bill

Eagle2009 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 21, 2010, 06:37:02 PM »

That is the real question..no answer as of yet

aryana · « **Reply #20 on:** February 21, 2010, 06:45:10 PM »

from the looks of the things they dont want to duel with americans in air s-300 is where they are settling for

Lur · « **Reply #21 on:** February 24, 2010, 07:19:32 PM »

Iran Forms First Squadron of Home-Made Saeqeh Fighters

TEHRAN (FNA)- The Islamic Republic of Iran's Air Force has formed the first squadron of home-made Saeqeh (Thunderbolt) fighter jets, a senior Iranian air force commander announced on Wednesday.

"The squadron is the first fighter squadron equipped with fighters and equipments made inside the country," Lieutenant Commander of Army's Air Force for Operations General Seyed Mohammad Allavi told FNA, adding that the fighter jets are joint production of the Air Force and the Defense Ministry.

Allavi said all pilots have passed training courses inside the country, and called it an advantage for Iranian Air Force.

He also stated that that all the aircrafts have successfully passed such various tests as near water and low altitude flights and long-range targeting with real and training ammunitions.

The commander expressed the hope that the country would produce the forth and fifth generations of Saeqeh in the near future.

Asked about the squadron's mission, Allavi said, "The squadron is capable of detecting and confronting aggressive aircraft and enemy fighters."

He added that the squadron can effectively hit ground targets from any distance and can carry different types of rockets, bombs and machine guns.

In September, Iran displayed the first squadron of Saeqeh (Thunderbolt) fighter jets produced by its defense industries in an air show staged during military parades at the beginning of the Week of Sacred Defense, marking Iranians' sacrifices during the 8 years of Iraqi imposed war on Iran in 1980s.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8812051616

Lur · « **Reply #22 on:** February 24, 2010, 07:20:09 PM »

Did we not hear this news before^^^^ why are they announcing it again?

aryana · « **Reply #23 on:** February 24, 2010, 07:35:25 PM »

how many fighter is in one Squadron

Eagle2009 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 24, 2010, 07:39:18 PM »

By most standards it can range from 12-24 planes but the last time Iran announced this they only showed off 5 Saeghe..of which 4 had already been seen so perhaps they have a 6th plane ready to go?