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'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« on: November 26, 2011, 08:04:23 PM »
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'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'


Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:22PM





Syrian people hold posters of President Bashar al-Assad outside the foreign ministry in Damascus on November 14, 2011.

Turkish sources say that Syria has turned its Russian-made SCUD missiles towards Turkey, Press TV reports.
 

The sources said that the missiles have been deployed in Syria's Kamisili and Ayn Diwar regions, Press TV's Ankara correspondent reported on Saturday.
 
The two regions are close to the borders of Turkey and Iraq.

This comes as Turkey has recently stepped up its rhetoric against the Syrian government. Reports have also emerged suggesting that Turkey is harboring Syrian armed opposition groups.
 
Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in support of President Assad.
 
Damascus says the unrest has been largely incited by elements that are well-paid and armed by foreign powers. Hundreds of people, including members of the security forces, have been killed in the turmoil.
 
The opposition and Western countries accuse Syrian security forces of being behind the killings in the country, but the government blames what it describes as outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.
 
http://presstv.com/detail/212313.html
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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2011, 08:07:30 PM »
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turkey has been starting big trouble in syria and the entire middle east as agents of the zionist and western backed imperialistic monsters

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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2011, 12:05:12 AM »
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There are 90 US nuclear warheads in Turkey . I think they are free fall air delivered Bombs . Who are they aimed against ? Why are they there ? If NATO attack Pakistan , Iran , Russia , Syria , will Turkey people rise up against it ? Will their government provide bases for NATO ? Will they help NATO like they did in Libya ? Should Iran treat them as an arm of NATO and nothing more ? Can Iran reroute trade with remaining Europe country through Armenia /Georgia /Azerbaijan and the Black sea ? Or through Turkmenistan/Russia ? 

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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2011, 09:29:44 AM »
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Turkey's Erdogan and Gul have been paid to go on this collision course..The initial plan was to formment an internal strive in order to generate an international response..That failed at the UN so now Turkey must prove it backs her big talk with actions.Promise of EU entry and ambitions to become the key regional player is what's driving Turkey's foreign policy.

What's going on in Syria is not about About Assad..He's just the excuse for demonizing Syria and also breaking the resistance Axis.A full blown war in the region will affect everybody..Gul recently made a trip to the UK to meet with the queen and all..What was discussed??? A few months before this nonsense begun, the US intel chief made several trips to Turkey and even agreed to upgrade their air-force fleet.

Iran must send a clear message to Turkey and make their position clear that Iran won't allow Syria to fall in the hands of NATO so they should decide if they want peace or war in the region...

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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2011, 10:21:45 AM »
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Iran must send a clear message to Turkey and make their position clear that Iran won't allow Syria to fall in the hands of NATO so they should decide if they want peace or war in the region...

I think Iran has already brother.

They have publicly stated they will target NATO missile defense shields in Turkey, in case of an attack on Iran but they should have even went further and said even in case of an attack on Syria.

But this is where politics plays a roll and how things are perceived domestically and internationally.
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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2011, 02:20:23 PM »
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The axis of resistance has to punish Turkey economically. Stop buying turkish products.... End turkish investments in Iran.. iraq has done a good step by
Prohibiting turkish planes from landing in Iraq... Other steps should follow ... iran has to end turkish investments in the oil industry

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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2011, 02:27:19 PM »
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The axis of resistance has to punish Turkey economically. Stop buying turkish products.... End turkish investments in Iran.. iraq has done a good step by
Prohibiting turkish planes from landing in Iraq... Other steps should follow ... iran has to end turkish investments in the oil industry

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You have any sources you can post for the refusal of turkish planes to land in Iraq.

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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2011, 05:44:58 PM »
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The mistake by Muslims is to consider Gul, Davatoglu and Erdogan as people who want to apply Islam to Turkish politics.

In fact, no political party in Turkey can apply anything Islamic to public policy because the Turkish state has fundaments in Ataturkism, which advocates a Western-copied secularism, and demands as a tenent that Turks copy all that they can from Western culture and civilization to catalyze themselves into modernity. Also, it assumes the old fable of social-darwinism, that "Turks" are in competition with other peoples and that only the strong can survive, hence their Westernization efforts, since Westerners are superior ethnically (!!) to say, Chinese during the era of nation building. We are talking about an elite that decided to build Turkey around the idea of

A is advanced in technology to B ---> A is therefore superior to B from an ethnic point of view ---> A will evolve more intelligently from the biological point of view to B--->Hence A is the archetype to observe and follow.

This was completely ordinary 100 years ago, but today it's a clown's tale.

All of these aspects should bring some rational people to think twice about this ridiculous state. The AKParty is just another one of those 'Bring a pseudo-Muslim party into secular politics, call them Muslims and give religious Turks an illusionary option of voting for them, whilst consolidating power of the state.'

Over the past years, this has become more and more evident.

It might also come as a surprise to learn that many ordinary Turks who do not vote for Erdogan's party know that he has no double agenda, and that he is obedient to Ataturkism, regardless of 'his belief in Islam'.


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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2011, 11:30:44 PM »
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The struggle between Liberalism and Nationalism in Turkey . Iran need a twofold strategy . To stop the Turkish Liberals from waging war in the interests of NATO against Syria and Iran . And to encourage nationalist growth by economical investments in joint ventures , involving Turkish local capital and Iranian capital  and local technology . However the building of joint economic industrial zones is too early . As in an expanded Shamgen agreement . Better  keep investments of this type for ethnically mixed areas in  Iran for now .  For Turkey / Iran Trade ,  keep  the industrial  development  based  on non essential industry  ( not mother industry )  and underwrite  investments of private sector by government  in case of war or loss for now .

No exchange of / or resettlement of workforce for now . Only movement of goods and capital . On the military front an alliance of  Syria / Iran / Armenia / Russia needed to counteract Turkish / NATO aggression . :)

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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2011, 01:04:46 AM »
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By the way I think Asad Ruler of Syria right now seats in his bunker and think how to kill all those guerillas.
Who stole 4 AK-47 each and run into some rual area. If he understands it he might kill them. By they way 7 guerillas decided to dig some giant bomb under road and blow up APC into the air. That is their only tactic.

Both armed groups right now seat and think how to kill each other. Asad troops seat in APCs. And guerillas seat behind two houses crouching.

Source: UK Government News Channel SBS. Footage by UK SAS Camera Team. 4 SAS, 1 Camera Director, 1 Presenter. They were crouching behind half-ruined wall. APC has not noticed them.

(And the rest news a rubbish from rurual radio goups or stupid jewish counter propgandists. Tomorrow they will tell you have to
leave in heaven with Allah or to live another generation to build a Phased Array Radar. Jewish resorted to usual tactic of rural
Communist Radio Counter Propaganda and as usually nobody who saw SBS beleived them).
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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2011, 01:26:13 AM »
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Should Iran treat them as an arm of NATO and nothing more? Can Iran reroute trade with remaining Europe country through Armenia/Georgia /Azerbaijan and the Black sea? Or through Turkmenistan/Russia? 

NATO can create 2 Air Bases. But European Union has not deicided who is going to pay them 2 billion Euro for each base.
In Libiya France and England paid around 2 billion Euros.

Any concrete Air Strip that can be defended and Air Supplied by NATO will be their Air Base. They will create 2 those Air Bases. It has to be close to Syria.

Iran can reroute trade through Russia and Pakistan. Russia, China are still vetoing any ban on Iran Banking.


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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2011, 04:08:34 PM »
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Salaam

I never knew that Erdoghan, Ghul and David-Ugly were able to fool muslim people for such a long time; from "Err-Doughan"'s Mosqs, Domes and Minarets Hollow Words to the Show in Davos, His Hypocrisy with Iran during the Tehran Summit with the revered Lula of Brazil  ( May God bless him with Faith and more Guidance ) until his Zionist Secular brouhaha in Cairo and their merry making with NATO and USionists AmeriKKKan's Arab league against muslim believers ; people and oppressed nations .The new neo-ottoman's Colonialism will be and must be Crushed by any means necessary, thanks to iranian pasdars and their threat to destroy any NATO devilishness and move , wherever it is located from, Wether in Turkey or anywhere in the World, We are ready to sacrifice ourselves to destroy these cancerous diseases like Err-Doughan and his Arab Cronnies.

Hat off to Iraqis ( Both Kurds and Shi'is as well as Sincerous Sunnis, Christians and Jews Believers in the Oneness of God and Lebanese Arab leadership ( Hezb, Amal, and Aoun's maronite fellow people ).

To Hell with Err-Doughan and his Perfidious hypocrites ; Our local Zionist puppet should get rid from this Devil ghul who paid an official visit here in yaoundé-Cameroon last year ; and lastly; I better warn all of my muslim fellow citizens who are embarking in trading with turkish Business to refrain their move ; Malaysians or indonesians are much more Welcome If Iranians keep sitting dock in their Super military Base ... while these zionist puppets are pocketing our ressources on behalf of their masters ( Qatar, morocco, Mubarak's Egypt with Arab Contractors which is involved in a Scandal here and are being probed ... ). Where are the Syrians, the Iraqis ??? They don't want to help expand their Export by opening new markets ; Then the Zionists are keeping filling the gaps while they are Sitting Dock. for example; Why iranian businesses are not Selling this GLX smartphone here in Africa ??? Africans use to buy from Dubaî and resell the Chinese made stuff locally; Where are these Iranian products actually ??? They better Bombard these Zionists Scums like Turkish officials with their Commercial and Industrial products ( IKCO, SAIPA, PERSIAN TRACTORS ITMCO; General Lux Smart phones...) while keeping at bay enemies from desecrating their holy landwith their "Mersad" type Systems to Blow All of NATO and USionists Quincalleries and mostly those in Occupied "Al Quds lana" .

Shame on the Ottoman turks of Ataturk and Arditti's Zionists family ( turqueto ). Marg bar Mounafiqine in Ankara who do not understand even the message of the latest Earthquake which shattered their land and brought shame and infamy of receiving help from "isra-hell" to them after shooting 9 innocent turkish Humanitarian Activists !!!! What A Shamefull move from Err-Doughan; Now it is too late for him to escape; he is openly and Worldwidely known as a "MOUNAFIQ" ( Hypocrite ) ./

May God bless and protect the Syrian Arab republic from such Devilish People. I am Profoundly outraged for being misled by Mr Secular "Err-Doughan". What a SHOW of hypocrisy ??? Muslim should learn from him how to avoid others like him which are hiding among Various Muslim nations ( ref Amr Moussa and Al baradei or Part of the MB in Egypt which started negotiating with AmriKKKa ). Long live the IRI.

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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2011, 11:21:13 PM »
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Iran must not openly conftont Turkey. This will not be good for promoting true Islam among people of Turkey.

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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2011, 11:53:17 PM »
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Turkey as a state doesn't share Islam with Iran, in fact the Turkish state openly opposes Islam calling it a regressive religion.

Turkey shares interwoven trade with Iran, more than enough.

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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2011, 03:15:25 AM »
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NATO may have stationed nuclear bombs in Turkey, but they will find it hard to deliver them when our airspace is defended by S-300, Pantsyr S-1, S-400 (operated by Russians I hear!) and Tor M-1 systems, as well as the legacy S-200 and other systems still out in force.

Ballistic missiles can be shot down by the S-300/S-400 systems as well. Stealth bombers + fighters will be detected by passive radar. Ground targets and airstrips will be destroyed by Iskander weapons systems located in Syria.

So it's up to Turkey, Iran has already delivered a message to it:

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Perhaps the most important and the last contact that took place between pro-Syrian alliance between Ankara and the visit is conducted by the Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee in the Iranian parliament, Alaeddin Boroujerdi, the Turkish capital of about two weeks ago. Sources close access to the course of this visit that, "Boroujerdi told the Turks a transparent and extremely dry: Stop the practice of Olaipkm in Syria, and certainly does not come near Iran. Have you made a mistake a big mistake in the host you for the missile shield the U.S.. Be aware that, in case anything in the region, we will begin pounding the rules on your territory, particularly the base of Incirlik. Here is no place for friendship with you, and the position is not dictated by friendship with others, it's a national security issue Irani, and the defense of Syria, Palestine and the resistance, as well as part of our faith, religious, political, and not tactic of any kind."

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Turkey cannot survive an attack by both Syria and Iran. The entire area of Turkey is reachable by our gigantic missile arsenals.

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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2011, 08:56:35 PM »
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I don't know some here know that Turkey has some historical problems with Bulgaria and Greece. An involvement in a war against Siria will be not beneficial for Turkey for long term. Europe Union can no longer to back some Union's States as even developped states of EU have themselves problems. I mean Germany, UK and France. On short, future doesn't appear in a bright colour for EU (Turkey including).
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The Arab League coupled with a proxy group called the Syrian National Council (SNC) that is the creation of a tactical alliance between the Syrian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, Washington, NATO, Israel, and the Persian Gulf’s petro-monarchs is being used within the framework of false pretences of humanitarianism for a plan to oust President Bashar Al-Assad from power and install a new client government in Damascus.

The Arab League: A Chamber of Treachery and Cowardice

The Arab League is a dysfunctional and largely ceremonial body of hyperbole that has been utterly stripped of any value it once had when it was originally founded in 1945. It has been hijacked and serves Washington and its NATO allies instead of any genuinely Arab interests. The League’s ultimatums against Syria are fully in tune with the regime change plans against Damascus.

Libya was suspended from the Arab League before NATO started its war. The League was used to give cover to the Pentagon and NATO for their war and regime change agenda against Qaddafi. It is Saudi Arabia and the Persian Gulf Cooperation Council (An incomplete reference was completed) (PGCC (An incomplete acronym was completed: PGCC)) that have helped hijack the League. The PGCC (An incomplete acronym was completed: PGCC) is comprised of the Persian Gulf petro-sheikhdoms of the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman, and Saudi Arabia. None of these countries are model states, let alone democracies. Their foreign-installed leaders have betrayed the Palestinians, helped attack Iraq, support Israel against Lebanon, demolished Libya, and now they conspire against Syria and its regional allies.

In a blatant act of hypocrisy, the unelected despots of these petro-sheikhdoms have announced that Qaddafi’s regime was “illegitimate” and now are making similar statements about Syria. This is while the Saudi and Bahraini regimes themselves kill and terrorize their own unarmed citizens who are protesting in the streets of Saudi Arabia and Bahrain for fair treatment, basic rights, equality, and freedom.

The PGCC (An incomplete acronym was completed: PGCC) has forced the Arab League to support the de-legitimization of the Libyan government and the war against Libya in the form of sanctions and no-fly zones. Now it wants to impose political and economic sanctions on Syria and to cause the country to internally implode, while it tries to fashion an Arab League mandated no-fly zone as a counter-movie to the Chinese and Russian vetoes at the U.N. Security Council. The U.S., Britain, France, and Turkey are also preparing to help it in this regard.

The Syrian National Coordination Committee versus the Syrian National Council

The mainstream media, such as the BBC and Al Jazeera, in the NATO countries and Arab monarchies are willing to print, publish, or broadcast anything that will degrade Syria and support regime change through sectarian, unprofessional, false, and inflammatory reporting. They are not to be trusted in regards to the facts on the ground in Syria. The mainstream media in the NATO countries and the PGCC (An incomplete acronym was completed: PGCC) continuously play with words, provide no verified reports, and cite recently created foreign-based groups as their sources. Amongst these group is the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which ironically endorses Saudi rulers while it claims to espouse democratic ideals.

Protests demanding reforms and democratization have taken place in Syria. Other protests against corruption and linked subsidy price changes also have taken place, but not on the scale and magnitude that NATO and the PGCC (An incomplete acronym was completed: PGCC) portray. Initially there was a forceful crackdown that coincided with attacks by armed groups that had taken advantage of the protests. The problem was compounded by unidentified attackers who attacked both Syrian civilians and Syrian security forces that ignited instability. As tensions built, this all became further complicated by internal fighting amongst the elite families that form the oligarchies in Damascus. The Syrian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood has also tried to capitalize and armed wings of it, with help from foreigners, have tried to stroke the flames of violence to topple Bashar Al-Assad.

The situation in Syria is complicated, because there are several competing trends of opposition. This includes the opposition forces in Syria, which range from government lackeys to individuals that genuinely want reform. Aside from the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood, what most of the internal opposition has in common is that they are against violence, any form of foreign intervention, and want reform instead of regime change. It is this opposition that forms the Syrian National Coordination Committee (SNCC), which critics calls a regime appendage.

Members of this domestic opposition have been beaten and killed in Syria. This includes Mashaal Tammo, a Syrian Kurd opposition figure. Although there are over a dozen unrecognized Kurdish political parties in Syria, his murder according to Kurdish leaders was an act aimed at fomenting violence in the Kurdish areas of Syria. Several Kurdish leaders immediately denounced the murder as the work of those who want to frame the Syrian government and unleash chaos in Syria between Kurds and Arabs. Other internal victims include the cartoonist Ali Farzat who was kidnapped by unidentified gunmen and brutally beaten in late-August 2011. There is a chance that undisciplined members of the Syrian internal forces could have been behind the attack, but the attacks could have been designed to frame Damascus.

Outside of Syria, Washington and its allies have done everything to co-opt the SNCC or silence the voices of the SNCC and other internal opposition forces that are against foreign intervention and the use of violence. When a delegation of the SNCC arrived in Cairo to hold talks with the Arab League, it was immediately attacked and beaten by a mixed crowd of SNC supporters that were waiting for them. The Arab League too has opted to recognize the SNC, which is not popular internally in Syria.

In reality, the SNC is controlled by the Syrian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood and several Salafist groups. Some of the people listed as SNC members were also not consulted before they were added and play no real role in the organization. In this regard, the Muslim Brotherhood is being promoted as the alternative to Bashar Al-Assad by Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the PGCC (An incomplete acronym was completed: PGCC).

The SNC, which was formed in Istanbul a month after another Syrian transitional council was formed in Ankara, cannot be trusted. They have blatantly lied countless times about their internal support and events in Syria. Nor do they provide any form of a viable alternative to the Syrian regime. Their roster is filled with shady individuals with close ties to foreign governments and organizations that serve the interests of the United States and the European Union. According to Ayoob Kara, a Likud parliamentarian from the Israeli Knesset, the Syrian opposition was in contact with Tel Aviv to help oust the Syrian regime. Kara also made it clear in a speech to the Knesset that Israel must intervene in Syria as a means of fighting Iran and its allies.

Begging for Intervention: Parallels between the Transitional Councils in Libya and Syria

In Libya the Transitional Council was used to supplant the Jamahiriya in Tripoli. Now the SNC is being used is illicitly try to takeover Syria. The SNC will transform Syria into a docile client state divided and managed by Turkey, Israel, Jordan, and the Saudi-led PGCC (An incomplete acronym was completed: PGCC) states on behalf of Washington. The recognition of the SNC by the Arab League and Turkey is part of this objective.

Before NATO’s war in North Africa, the Transitional Council in Libya was begging for military intervention by the U.S., Britain, France, and NATO. Likewise, the SNC and the individuals who form it have been begging for NATO military intervention against Syria. The SNC has even posted the coordinates of defensive infrastructure in Syria that they want bombed by the Pentagon and NATO. Members of this opposition have also posted maps of Syrian Air Force bases and Russian naval infrastructure to help NATO identify military targets. What is very telling about the orientation of the SNC is that these facilities have very little to do with internal politics or crowd control and a lot to do with Syrian national defence.

It is in this context that a failed attack by the so-called “Free Syrian Army” was launched on the intelligence wing of the Syrian Air Force in Damascus. This was not an act of protest, but a badly organized act of war that was intended to weaken Syria’s defensive aerial capabilities in case it was attacked. The Free Syrian Army in reality is a front organization that is controlled and manned by the PGCC (An incomplete acronym was completed: PGCC), Turkey, Jordan, and NATO with mercenaries and groups that can loosely be called “Al-Qaeda.” This should come as no surprise in an era when the U.S. Congressional Armed Services Committee has been told by Admiral McRaven that covert operations with U.S. Special Forces involvement are vital to the Pentagon’s modern wars.

The Orwellian Responsibility to Protect (R2P): A Tool of Trans-Atlantic Wars

The Syrian Arab Republic now faces the “Responsibility to Protect” (R2P) as a threat. R2P was not used in Libya, but it was mentioned a lot. The frequent mentioning of the R2P was brinkmanship for future wars.

R2P is being prepped to be wielded as a weapon by Washington and NATO. It is a neo-imperialist device under the cover of sheep’s skin that appropriates the language of humanitarianism. Where is R2P against Israel in Palestine or when it attacked Lebanon in 2006? Where is R2P against the foreign-imposed dictators of Bahrain and Saudi Arabia? Where is R2P when it comes to the brutal Moroccan occupation of Western Sahara? Where is R2P in the Democratic Republic of Congo? These are all places where R2P will never even come to be mentioned, because it is against the interests of Washington and its allies.

It is a diplomatic concept constructed in Canada by the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade (DFAIT) through the International Commission on Intervention and State Sovereignty (ICISS) in 2000. The concept essentially posits that a country’s independence is not a right and can be taken away by the international community when the need arises. The international community under the R2P paradigm has the responsibility to intervene in any independent country in order to protect that country’s citizens.

Who can decide when to use R2P? Also, what is this “international community” that gives it legitimacy and what countries form it? How and who defines the international community? The international community is much more than the NATO countries. Clearly, most the world was against the Anglo-American invasion of Iraq in 2003, but Washington and Britain claimed that the “international community” was with them. The term “international community” is actually a widely misrepresented concept and term. Washington continuously gets a series of small states that are virtual dependencies, satellites, and unrepresentative governments to add their names to all the lists it constantly produces for its military coalitions and initiatives and calls this the “international community.” These lists on the surface can sound impressive, but in reality they are hallow mirages meant to produce a deceiving appearance of international support and consensus. For example, Washington’s “Coalition of the Willing,” which was forged to invade Iraq in 2003, included Columbia, NATO-occupied Afghanistan’s Hamid Karzai, Georgia, El Salvador, and Iceland. If not U.S. satellites, the governments of these countries were either bribed or coerced into joining against the wishes of their populations.

Now, both the universities and civil society in the form of NGOs inside NATO countries have a big role to play in the dissemination of the R2P paradigm. They are pushing for its normalization in international relations and its use in Syria. Together with the recognition of the unrepresentative SNC and the mirage of Arab legitimacy provided by the undemocratic collection of PGCC (An incomplete acronym was completed: PGCC) despots that have hijacked the Arab League, R2P will be utilized to create an international legal regime that will work to isolate, cripple, and subjugate Damascus.
 

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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2011, 07:09:31 AM »
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Aljazeera says that Russia has deviled supersonic anti-ship missiles to Syria?

Maybe Iran can get a few of those missiles and reverse engineer them!

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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2011, 11:14:44 AM »
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Russia delivers "Bastion" coastal defence systems with supersonic anti-ship cruise missile "Yakhont" to Syria.


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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2011, 01:59:49 PM »
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Done deal: Russia supplies cruise missiles to Syria
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Published: 02 December, 2011, 14:59
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Fulfilling a contract signed in 2007, Russia has supplied Bastion coastal missile systems with Yakhont cruise missiles to Syria under a contract signed in 2007, a diplomatic source in Moscow has told Russian media.

Objecting to Western fears that the defensive weapons system will fall into the hands of terrorist groups, a diplomatic source says that Moscow has fulfilled its obligations as laid out in the five-year-old contract.

"The Yakhont supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles have been supplied as part of Bastion mobile coastal missile systems," the source, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Interfax.

However, delivery of the weapons systems is just the first part of the process, and now “more time is needed to complete Syrian personnel training," the source said, adding that the missile system will “enable Syria to protect its entire coast from a possible seaborne attack."

Damascus is expecting to receive at least two Bastion systems with 36 Yakhont missiles per each system.

According to unofficial estimates, the contract carries a $300 million price tag.

The announcement comes as a Russian naval group, led by the nuclear aircraft-carrier, Admiral Kuznetsov, is en route to the Syrian port of Tartus.

Russian military officials rejected suggestions that the naval visit has any connection with the present turmoil gripping the Arab republic, saying the visit was planned a year ago. In addition to Syria, the aircraft carrier and its escort ships will pull into port at the Lebanese capital, Beirut, Genoa in Italy and Cyprus, says the former Chief of Naval Staff, Admiral Viktor Kravchenko.

Speaking on the missile delivery to Syria, Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov told reporters earlier this year that Russia intended to fulfill the 2007 contract.

"We are going to supply Yakhonts to Syria. We are going to fulfill the contract," he said.

The defense minister says Russia, unlike the US and Israel, is confident the technology will not fall into the hands of terrorist organizations.

"The United States and Israel are asking us not to supply Yakhonts to Syria, but we do not share their fears that these weapons might fall into the hands of terrorists," Serdyukov said.

"Russia strictly specifies the terms of weapons supply and maintenance and properly formalizes end-user certificates. And they [the Syrian side] undertake commitments," he explained.

The Yakhont 3M55E supersonic anti-ship cruise missile is capable of hitting targets at ranges of up to 300 km and carrying a warhead weighing more than 200 kg and can combat single surface ships or groups of ships under heavy fire and electronic counteraction.

The completion of the deal comes at a time of increasing political uncertainty for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, who is struggling to maintain his grip on power in the face of a nine-month conflict with anti-government protesters.

With the situation in Syria appearing to be teetering on civil war, many observers fear another “Libyan-scenario” will occur complete with another NATO military operation.

Russia roundly criticized the NATO’s handling of the Libyan crisis, saying the military alliance overstepped their UN-mandated obligations to protect innocent civilians and worked aggressively on the side of the rebels to depose former Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.

Gaddafi is believed to have been summarily executed just moments after being captured by rebel militia on Oct. 11, 2001 in his hometown of Sirte.

Robert Bridge, RT
http://rt.com/politics/russia-syria-missiles-contract-crisis-865/

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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2011, 11:03:31 AM »
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One wonders what Turkey's really trying to achieve with their hostilities towards Syria..Are they really that stupid to go to war with Syria and draw Russia into the fight???

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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2011, 11:58:06 AM »
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One wonders what Turkey's really trying to achieve with their hostilities towards Syria..Are they really that stupid to go to war with Syria and draw Russia into the fight???

They are showing how dependent they are, rather than independent. They are worried more about western interests in the region. It just shows the AKP government is fraudulent and subservient to the west.

It's because their economy depends on the west, apparently. Also they are killing themselves and jumping through hoops  in order to be introduced into the EU. Also, they are in a good amount of debt and would need the financial backing of Saudi Arabia.

This "syrian project" is coordinated by the west through the help of Turkey/Saudi Arabia/wahhabis and even muslim brotherhood, (whom webster tarpley says is a british creation, when nationlistic feelings were on the high in the early 1900's)

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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2012, 06:36:44 AM »
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This "syrian project" is coordinated by the west through the help of Turkey/Saudi Arabia/wahhabis and even muslim brotherhood,
(whom webster tarpley says is a british creation, when nationlistic feelings were on the high in the early 1900's)

It is not really important how many political organisations want to fight Assad. The most important point is that without NATO's Air War
and NATO's Air Bases in Turkey Syrian opposition can not military challenge Assad's Land Forces (equiped with BMPs, BTRs, T-72s, Grad MRLSs).

So we will see another 9 months of useless street protests.
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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2012, 08:02:03 AM »
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The so called opposition based mainly in London and France and financed by reactionary stooges of Washington in the Persian Gulf and led by non other than the ex-bomber of Hama, ex-disgraced Syrian VP and now traitor-in-chief Abdul Halim Khaddam..He tried toppling Assad in 2007 but failed..He saw an opening during the Arab spring and managed to rally the same people he bombed a few years back with the help of Salafi-Jihadi groups of the toppled March14 Harriri-pretty-boy alliance in Lebanon.

The so called free Syrian army, a creation that only exists in the media,(if they ever existed) are a joke..They don't stand a chance against the Syrian national army..I think the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood have overplayed their hands and have lost any credibility they had left with the Syrian masses..Sending people to the streets to be massacred by unknown gunmen for cheap political gains is just criminal.Even worse, their latest bombing campaigns against average Syrians in Damascus has eroded any modicum of support they had in that city. I think it's clear to say the opposition will loose any election and that's why they boycotted the recent polls.

It seems NATO's also given up their crazy no-fly-zone idea and have also resorted to covert terrorism means..I heard the US has moved some of the Iraqi Sunni Awakening Council idiots into Syrian border towns to cause chaos. In the end, the opposition, who refuses any form of dialogue will be alienated from the political process and future of the country.

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Re: 'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2012, 08:05:21 AM »
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It doesn't make sense. Whole world understand that today wars won with airforces. If Syria wants to bomb somewhere in Turkey, their missiles will be just a target for our pilots.

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Turkey cannot survive an attack by both Syria and Iran. The entire area of Turkey is reachable by our gigantic missile arsenals.

Yes, it can actually. Are you dreaming to stop us with MiG-29s?

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Iran must not openly conftont Turkey. This will not be good for promoting true Islam among people of Turkey.
What are you smoking? We're already Muslim and proud of it.

This is not about religion. Essad is puppet of Iran and we must replace it for our interests. 20 years ago, Turkey was a small country between Europe and Asia. But now, economy is flourishing, industry is booming and Turkish people wants more power.

Anyways, "Peace in the home, peace in the world"
cheers.

 

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