Author Topic: Bangkok explosion: Bomber thought to be Iranian (Read 1042 times)

the8march · « **Reply #25 on:** February 15, 2012, 09:18:08 AM »

i believe that this guy and the Lebanese guy were victims of the Mossad..

Rakhsh786 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 15, 2012, 09:25:14 AM »

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Besides this brings nothing to the table,

Firstly, they will use this to say Iran has embarked on a "global campaign of terrorism", and thus try to increase international pressures on Iran. Public opinions might appear stable, but that's because opinion makers feed them every once in a while to keep them stable. A look at the western corporate media shows that the demonization campaign against Iran never stopped. Also, the zionist regime and its lobbies in Washington need to keep their grip on the US government, hence the regular need for them to play the victim card and accuse Iran.

Secondly, this is mostly about the bilateral relations between Iran and the targeted countries. Iran has good relations with Georgia, Thailand, India, and does quite a bit of business with these countries. Notice furthermore that all these countries have ties to both Iran and the west, and have sought to keep their relations with both sides intact. What the US and Israel are desperately trying to achieve now, is to put these countriese in a situation where they are forced to choose one side - as they hope, the west and Israel - over the other. It is a concerted, subversive effort by the US, EU and zionist regimes to torpedo any attempt by third parties to exercice their sovereign right to an independent foreign policy towards Iran, specially when they choose not to fully align on the USraeli agenda.

In the Indian case, it is evidently designed to sabotage Iran-India relations, seeing as how India happens to be Iran's second largest oil importer, and how it has consistently resisted recent western bullying and pressures to stop buying Iranian oil. The objective here is of course to complete the illegal oil embargo against Iran.

As for "not targetting" their own people, I already explaioned how the zionist and western regimes have no problem sending their citizens to their deaths, as long as they can muster enough public support for such undertakings. Public support, in turn, is cooked and whipped up through lies such as the "Saddam WMD" hoax and racist supremacist propaganda against "inferior brown people" .

maiser · « **Reply #27 on:** February 15, 2012, 03:24:14 PM »

Quote from: Nightstrike on February 14, 2012, 10:39:24 PM

That would be a first ? Every scientist killed in Iran was killed professionally, not that i support such covert ops, but the notion that this Iranian was trained by Mossad or the CIA is silly. Plus , All this 'false flag' stuff is nonsense, always has been.

Quote from: Nightstrike on February 14, 2012, 10:31:08 PM

You mean Iranian failures? Tin foil conspiracists are now saying Israel attacked the wife of one of their defense diplomats LOL

You tell me why it was important for Iran to kill this diplomat or his wife. Especially in India which recently said no to unilateral sanctions against Iran. Iran would disrespect India and jeopardize everything over killing one diplomat? And even risk failing doing so, and by that risking losing face to all kind of public as well?

maiser · « **Reply #28 on:** February 15, 2012, 03:29:33 PM »

Quote from: the8march on February 15, 2012, 09:18:08 AM

i believe that this guy and the Lebanese guy were victims of the Mossad..

Me too. I believe they found someone fitting their description to kill. Since they were nationals from Lebanon and Iran it could be explained as Iranian or Hezballah terrorism going bad...

maiser · « **Reply #29 on:** February 15, 2012, 03:34:14 PM »

Quote from: Rakhsh786 on February 15, 2012, 09:25:14 AM

Firstly, they will use this to say Iran has embarked on a "global campaign of terrorism", and thus try to increase international pressures on Iran. Public opinions might appear stable, but that's because opinion makers feed them every once in a while to keep them stable. A look at the western corporate media shows that the demonization campaign against Iran never stopped. Also, the zionist regime and its lobbies in Washington need to keep their grip on the US government, hence the regular need for them to play the victim card and accuse Iran.

Secondly, this is mostly about the bilateral relations between Iran and the targeted countries. Iran has good relations with Georgia, Thailand, India, and does quite a bit of business with these countries. Notice furthermore that all these countries have ties to both Iran and the west, and have sought to keep their relations with both sides intact. What the US and Israel are desperately trying to achieve now, is to put these countriese in a situation where they are forced to choose one side - as they hope, the west and Israel - over the other. It is a concerted, subversive effort by the US, EU and zionist regimes to torpedo any attempt by third parties to exercice their sovereign right to an independent foreign policy towards Iran, specially when they choose not to fully align on the USraeli agenda.

In the Indian case, it is evidently designed to sabotage Iran-India relations, seeing as how India happens to be Iran's second largest oil importer, and how it has consistently resisted recent western bullying and pressures to stop buying Iranian oil. The objective here is of course to complete the illegal oil embargo against Iran.

As for "not targetting" their own people, I already explaioned how the zionist and western regimes have no problem sending their citizens to their deaths, as long as they can muster enough public support for such undertakings. Public support, in turn, is cooked and whipped up through lies such as the "Saddam WMD" hoax and racist supremacist propaganda against "inferior brown people" .

Good written brother. But Nightstrike have every reason (except logics) to question our viewpoints. How would we feel if we knew that Iran was behind such things as USA and Israel are... i couldn't live with that guilt to be honest. Its a kind of self-preserving meditation to lie to himself about the reality.

the8march · « **Reply #30 on:** February 17, 2012, 09:13:59 AM »

Israeli News paper:

Thailand police: Iranian suspects in Bangkok attack consorted with prostitutes
Men spent 2 nights in beach resort of Pattaya, notorious for its sex industry, took pictures; cell-phone image shows Iranian nationals sitting near drinks-filled table.

http://www.haaretz dot kom/news/middle-east/thailand-police-iranian-suspects-in-bangkok-attack-consorted-with-prostitutes-1.413450

maydayfire · « **Reply #31 on:** February 17, 2012, 09:51:44 AM »

only Mossad trains and arms hedonistic people like that.

the8march · « **Reply #32 on:** February 17, 2012, 10:46:51 AM »

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4191116,00.html

Warning: Iran, Hezbollah planning more attacks

According to the information, Iran and Hezbollah are planning to carry out attacks against Israeli and Jewish targets around the world. "There is great determination on their part to carry out attacks, " the official said.

The source did not specify any specific countries under threat. "It's important that people understand that we’re facing additional attacks but Israel is making great efforts to prevent future attacks."

He noted that Israel is carefully monitoring statements by Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah and making arrangements accordingly.
Referring to reports and rumors of an attempt on the life of Defense Minister Ehud Barak, the official said: "We have no indication for this but senior officials are more exposed to attacks and we are carefully watching any signs for this."

reza18 · « **Reply #33 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:44:25 PM »

This is a Mossad FALSE FLAG operation gone horribly wrong..They've been caught red handed so they must play along..I strongly believe after the investigations are done, evidence will be point in their direction.

Lets put this in context..Thailand just recognized Palestine after the first Mossad hysteria about some Lebanese "terror plot"..This times it seems they're really doing it to demonize Iran..Apparently the one in India shows the perpetrators used Israeli military grade explosives.They've been caught pants down so now they're trying to muddy the waters to confuse any investigations..

What authorities in India and Thailand should be asking themselves is, "who benefits?".

Emirzaad · « **Reply #34 on:** February 17, 2012, 01:02:25 PM »

either israelis r trying too hard or are getting taste of thier own medicine ... first time in history of israel is facing a threat to its existance , unlike all the arabs and PGCC combined , Iran is a real threat to Israel .

the8march · « **Reply #35 on:** February 17, 2012, 01:07:30 PM »

with this one its still not clear for me who is behind it... The names of the Iranians who were involved are now published ... If they really work for the Mossad or are against the gov., then Iran has to show this... as they did with the guy captured in the US

rouz · « **Reply #36 on:** February 17, 2012, 01:48:13 PM »

Just saw a video clip on RT. There was Iranian money scattered around the explosion scene lol...

Seriously, if the regime was this incompetent it would never have lasted for so long. But, then again, people are idiots and will believe this regardless of how absurd it is.

rouz · « **Reply #37 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:09:29 PM »

berislac · « **Reply #38 on:** February 17, 2012, 04:02:50 PM »

Quote from: rouz on February 17, 2012, 02:09:29 PM

Jonk89 · « **Reply #39 on:** February 17, 2012, 05:20:17 PM »

I posted the same thing in another section for that idiot nigtstrike to read.I don't know if he is an American or an Iranian American. Either way, It makes no difference. He is an idiot. Read this you idiot, and you may learn something.

Nightstrike, you should take your head out of your ass, wash your eyes, clean your ears and stop watching Fox news, then you may understand what is really happening around the world and who the responsible parties for all these wars and looting of natural resources of some of the smaller countries are. You should go back to school and study the history of your own country. Let me give you a quick review of your own history. U.S started by immigration of bunch of no good criminals from Europe. They stole the land from natives, displacing them. They even gave the natives blankets with yellow fever to kill them. Then they were so lazy to work on the fields that they, with the help of British zionists kidnapped the blacks from Africa and brought them here to work as slaves. During world war one and two they did the same thing. But this time they bribed, kidnapped and forced the Germans and Eastern European scientists to go to U.S and work because again they were so stupid and uneducated that they couldn't exceed in science and technology by themselves. Today more than half of your scientists are foreigners. And now, your beloved country using her military to rob the people of smaller countries from their natural resources. When you put all these together you see that your country has progressed throughout the years by stupid uneducated, inhuman, uncivilized thieves and armed-robbers. The sad thing is that you and 90% of the population are proud of it.

Apollyon · « **Reply #40 on:** February 17, 2012, 06:06:16 PM »

Quote from: Nightstrike on February 14, 2012, 10:31:08 PM

You mean Iranian failures? Tin foil conspiracists are now saying Israel attacked the wife of one of their defense diplomats LOL

Nightstrike, you are no better to blame the IRI pending a thorough investigation by a qualified and impartial authority. Your snarky one-liners are not helpful to any meaningful discussion on the possibilities.

You're thinking in very concrete terms if you believe the only options are the IRI was directly responsible or the state government of Israel.

There are many terrorist organizations which recruit Iranians, like the MEK, and are strongly against the IRI. Furthermore, the MEK receives support from the Israelis. Now, this is just an example.If the Israelis are providing a terrorist organization support, and can provide them counterfeit Iranian passports to boot, then it's a win-win situation for them whenever they conduct an operation and Iran is blamed.

You are correct that Iran may have wanted either revenge or to discourage further assassinations by 'getting even' with Israel.

But when we consider motive, the first official of any faction to condemn Iran, and imply it was an action of the state of Iran and not a fringe group, was the PM of Israel, Netanyahu. He clearly gained from this attack, and if Iran had been successful it would have still been him playing the victim card before anything has been confirmed, it would still be a PR victory for him. Your view would have more credibility if they managed to kill any Israelis in the attack, which is not the case.

Secondly, we know the bomber is Iranian only by his ID information found on his body. But assassinations and bombings, when carried out by state actors, rarely have the assassins use real IDs. We know for a fact that Israel has been provided with the technology to generate convincing counterfeit IDs and passports. Confirmation of this was the botched assassination attempt of the Hezbollah official in the UAE.

Lastly, as far as conspiracies go, I agree we should avoid conspiracy theories, while more reasonable solutions are present. However, sometimes conspiracies are confirmed. There exists some historical precedent of false flag operations carried out by Israel in Egypt, where bombs were planted in US govt owned facilities in order to create tension between the US and Egypt and bring the US into Israel's war with Egypt.

It's possible the IRI was behind it all, but nightstrike, pending any further empirical evidence which confirms beyond reasonable doubt the IRI's involvement, at this stage it doesn't look likely this haphazard assassination turned battle with the local police was an action by Iran.

Quote from: Nightstrike on February 14, 2012, 11:31:58 PM

There's a lot of things Israel could do to help win support of the masses, like a reasonable peace treaty with the palestinians, they could also stop threatening Iran and play the victim card against the mad mullahs who are hell bent on destroying Israel. Eitherway Whoever it was its sick to attack a woman let alone a diplomat who under accepted norms would be immune from such acts of terror.

You're a bit confused here, nightstrike. You seem to answer your own question.
Your implication is if the Israelis wanted pity, there's plenty they could do instead of supporting terrorists and blaming Iran. But you seem to be ignoring that the Israelis have been looking to build a case for bombing and attacking Iran with western supplied technology.
You're right, they are not looking for a peaceful resolution with the PA and IRI, they want to make sure they're the only ones with the nukes and they know that nobody is willing to fight that battle for them because no government official even in the west is stupid enough to drink the kool aid about Iran being a state apocalyptic cult.
This is one way to do that. They're not looking for peace, they want a casus belli to force the US on board because they're incompetent and have always been, without receiving a helping hand from technology and military aid from the US.

Nonbarbari · « **Reply #41 on:** February 18, 2012, 11:17:18 PM »

Quote from: Jonk89 on February 17, 2012, 05:20:17 PM

I posted the same thing in another section for that idiot nigtstrike to read.I don't know if he is an American or an Iranian American. Either way, It makes no difference. He is an idiot. Read this you idiot, and you may learn something.

With his sense of logic he is more to be an american.. Or more precisely redneck..

Catsoo · « **Reply #42 on:** February 19, 2012, 01:39:45 AM »

Jonk89,

You should immediately remove the insult laid on Nighthawk or I will have to give you a warning. If you can't put your words down in a civilized manner then don't at all!

To Nighthawk,

I am still not sure who did make those assassination attempts buy as an American you would be the last to cry aloud about women and children when the USraelis have unparalleled kill records of killing women and children (call it defenseless civilians) since WWII and often so brazenly live on TV broadcasting to every point on the globe. American and Europeans have been going to bed every night peacefully with clear conscious after watching the nightly news about occupied Palestine reporting daily deaths of Palestinian population most of them women and children for over six decades. How is that for Western civilization shame?

Catsoo

maydayfire · « **Reply #43 on:** February 19, 2012, 04:11:42 AM »

Mossad hedonistic drunkards....

Rakhsh786 · « **Reply #44 on:** February 27, 2012, 11:07:01 PM »

Warning, source is zionist.

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* Published 14:15 27.02.12
* Latest update 14:15 27.02.12

Thailand police detains another Iranian suspect in Bangkok bombing

Thai security officials say Madani Seyed Mehrded call logs link him to other suspects, was seen waiting outside the Israeli embassy on the day of the botched attack.

By Reuters Tags: Iran

Thai police said on Monday they were questioning another Iranian in connection with explosions in Bangkok this month that have been linked to an attack on the wife of an Israeli diplomat in India and another incident in Georgia at around the same time.

Iran has denied involvement but Israel has said the Quds Force, a covert arm of Iran's Revolutionary Guards Corps, was behind the bombings.

One Iranian, Saeid Moradi, lost his legs on February 14 when a bomb he was carrying exploded in Bangkok shortly after an apparently accidental explosion forced him and two other men to flee a house they had been renting.

He remains seriously ill in hospital. A second Iranian, Mohammad Khazaei, is in custody after being arrested at Bangkok's main airport and a third, Masoud Sedaghat Zadeh, is being held in Malaysia.

Thai Immigration Police Commissioner Wiboon Bangthamai told Reuters three Iranians had been arrested in the Nana area of Bangkok at the weekend but two had been eliminated from the inquiry.

The other, Madani Seyed Mehrded, 33, remained in custody because he had overstayed his visa and was being questioned for links to the bombing.

According to Thai media, police told a weekend news conference they had discovered call logs showing Mehrded regularly communicating with two of the other suspects, Moradi and Khazaei.

Police also said Mehrded had been waiting in front of the building housing the Israeli embassy on the day of the blasts.

Mehrded has denied any connection with the bomb incident.

Thai government and police officials have given conflicting views on whether the Iranians were planning to attack Israeli diplomats.

However, the police forensic unit commander has said the bombs in Bangkok resembled one used in the attack on the Israeli diplomat's wife in New Delhi on February 13.

Police are still looking into mysterious stickers bearing the word "sejeal" found at various points along a 1.5 km (2.4 mile) route in central Bangkok that may have some connection to the bomb incident. Similar stickers were also found at the house where the explosion occurred on February 14.

Media have speculated that they could have been used to mark out a route or to identify areas for attacks.

"We still cannot confirm nor deny whether the stickers were part of the February 14 plot. At the moment we are testing DNA found on the stickers," Immigration Police Commissioner Wiboon Bangthamai said.

http://www.haaretz dot kom/news/diplomacy-defense/thailand-police-detains-another-iranian-suspect-in-bangkok-bombing-1.415167

jfb · « **Reply #45 on:** February 28, 2012, 12:52:08 AM »

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There are many terrorist organizations which recruit Iranians, like the MEK, and are strongly against the IRI. Furthermore, the MEK receives support from the Israelis. Now, this is just an example.If the Israelis are providing a terrorist organization support, and can provide them counterfeit Iranian passports to boot, then it's a win-win situation for them whenever they conduct an operation and Iran is blamed.

The problem is that it's not what you say that will matter ultimatelly but what the Indians will believe and how much it will have an impact on their oil import - provided that the Saudis offer as much oil -. They have no reason to believe in a zionist conspiracy except if someone offers strong evidence of an involvment from the MEK. As for Azerbaijan or even Georgia I don't believe it matters, Azerbaijan at least it did probably much worst in Iran accounting for their links with the mossad. Right now I know that the wife of an Israeli diplomat was wounded in India but I don't know how seriously.

the8march · « **Reply #46 on:** February 28, 2012, 02:07:53 PM »

From Israeli Ynetnews:

Is this true?

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Tehran's Foreign Ministry has announced that Iranian diplomats visited three Iranians detained in Thailand and Malaysia, reported Iran's Fars news agency.

The three are suspected of involvement in the terror attacks in Bangkok a couple of weeks ago.