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Re: Iran ‘real occupant of Azerbaijani lands’-Turkish media
« Reply #100 on: February 25, 2012, 08:38:34 PM »
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And this is not Persian racism? You are insulting our people. We are Oghuz Turks, first respect this, then come and talk about Azeris. And you should understand the difference between TURKIC and TURKISH!

Azeri Turks are not "Turkified", but you like your father Reza Pahlavi are trying to "Persianify" Azeri Turks, trying to erase Iran's Azeri Turkic past and creating funny stories.

You people have no difference from Pahlavids whom you supposedly curse so much...What an irony.

Ey baba my paternal lines are Pure and 100 % pure Turko-Mongol ( my mother is persian ) ... We r called Barlas ... yes the same Barlas from which the great Emir Timur came .... claiming that Azeris are just turks is just idiotic . Around Seljuki times , the influx of Oghuzi torks turkified majority of the azeris ... Otherwise "Azare Payjan" ( Place of Holy  Fire ) has always been a part of iranic plateau , even the name itself indicates strong Zoroastrian roots and origins ... before  turkification the azeri was just like other iranic taylashi , zazaki , Kurd and tat languages ... 

anyways ... From Shah Ismail to Sattar khan to Shahbanu Farah to Bazargan to Syed ali Khamanei to Gen Yahya Rahim Safavi to Mir Hossein Mosavi ... Azeris have always been important IRANIAN people !!! ... no trolling can change that fact ...





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Re: Iran ‘real occupant of Azerbaijani lands’-Turkish media
« Reply #101 on: February 25, 2012, 09:31:58 PM »
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One more thing .... I am of Turko-Mongol descent yes I am ... My dad was born in USSR Turkomani capital ... I am also a Sunni of Hanafi Shaagh and my paternal relatives even live in Modern day Turkiye .... so nothing really connects me to "Persian Racism" as some troll guy was accusing me of ... fact is What ppl forget is that idea of "Iran" is far more great than small time ethnic and Sectarian talks ... The name Iran holds the meaning from which it all started ... the whole civilization ... I being a Mongolic descendant truly love Iran Vatanam  for what it has given to me and what it gave to my nomadic ancestors ...

If I Bleed I Bleed for Iran !!!



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Re: Iran ‘real occupant of Azerbaijani lands’-Turkish media
« Reply #102 on: February 25, 2012, 11:37:56 PM »
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The user,"Tabrizi" has been banned, for being a racist fool; mentally closed off for rational taught and reality. He is further more an imposter. Quite definitely from the Azerbaijani dictatorship. "Racism against azeris", is one of the wackiest claims I've seen in long time.


I do believe that these people have an a very clear agenda, split and incite hate. On the other hand Iranians should not fall into their dirty tricks. Being angry is something that can be understood but propagating lies and stupidity in another thing. As I mentioned earlier we as Iranians should focus on what brings us together rather than focusing on our differences but that doesn't mean we forget about our differences, I am talking about consensus.

Regarding some of the Azeri Rulers who like to set fire on their relation by using Pan-Turkism I would like to remind them that if they want to go all the way down then better to change their Iranic Names into Pure Turkish names and also do not use "Azerbaijan" as a reference to their country since it is not a Turkic Word. Also they should renounce to their emblem which is the sacred fire. This is what Ultra-Nationalism is, INSANE.

Now, regarding hose who describe themselves as "Persians" (not iranian) wearing 15 ton Farvahar without even knowing its meaning, I would say they too have missed the point and are playing a very dangerous game. I would add that the thing that shocks me the most is this so called "Indo-european" issue. It's being used in some cases as way to reject their Asian/oriental origins.

All I am saying is that whatever our origins maybe we should preserve them, keep the best and put the worst aside. Personally, as an Iranian I feel that my cultural heritage does not sum up to a simple ethnic or religious belonging but goes beyond it. Iran is a nation, not an aggregation of tribes.

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Iran ‘real occupant of Azerbaijani lands’-Turkish media
« Reply #103 on: February 26, 2012, 06:04:19 AM »
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For the record, while Armenians have been treated very well in Iran, we've been given full minority rights, and we are very grateful that Iran has accepted our fellow Armenians and done a good job of preserving our culture and rights. While in the "secular" and "democratic" country of Azerbaijan, Armenians were massacred and forcibly taken out of their homes and kicked out. Let's not forget what was done to the Armenians in Ottoman Turkey.

Armenians have also been treated very well in Lebanon, and we have good relations with the Shia folks there. In general, we are much more better relations with Shia people than Sunni.

Azeri protest in front of Iranian Embassy in Baku: (protesting armenian iranian relations)




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Iran ‘real occupant of Azerbaijani lands’-Turkish media
« Reply #104 on: March 06, 2012, 08:23:06 PM »
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For the record, while Armenians have been treated very well in Iran, we've been given full minority rights, and we are very grateful that Iran has accepted our fellow Armenians and done a good job of preserving our culture and rights. While in the "secular" and "democratic" country of Azerbaijan, Armenians were massacred and forcibly taken out of their homes and kicked out. Let's not forget what was done to the Armenians in Ottoman Turkey.

Armenians have also been treated very well in Lebanon, and we have good relations with the Shia folks there. In general, we are much more better relations with Shia people than Sunni.

Azeri protest in front of Iranian Embassy in Baku: (protesting armenian iranian relations)


Moso Jaan

The links between Iran and Armenia are secular. Shireen and Farhad is to us what Tristan & Iseult or Romeo & Juliette is to Europeans. I lived up to the age of 6 near Villa Street in Tehran, not far from the church. I used to hear stories regarding the infamous walk and the deportations that started at the 19th century and went on till the end of WWI. Have I noticed any animosity between iranian Azeri and Armenians? No personally. And I will never accept the idea that such thing happens.

Now, these Extreme Azeris are being used as instruments. Stalin and the Ottoman genocide then the karabakh war (where Azerbaijan was helped by the Israelis) did not arrange anything. Now they are getting hysteric over Iranian Armenian relations?
This is a tragic comedy!


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Re: Iran ‘real occupant of Azerbaijani lands’-Turkish media
« Reply #105 on: March 06, 2012, 08:36:48 PM »
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This is totally rich coming from a naiton with institutionalized policies of racism and violence against the Kurdish minority in the Eastern provinces, while Iran quietly harbors the largest foreign refugee population of any other nation on Earth, with 3 - 4 million afghan refugees alone, that's ~4% of Iran's total current population.

Turkey is serving as a mouthpiece for western interests, they are no more interested in playing fair politically and economically than the US. They are looking to stir up ethnic tension in Iran even though most families of Azeri descent in Iran self-identify as Iranian first and foremost.

Turkey's government buys into the "secular" pan-turkism BS and uses this nationalism to its own geopolitical interests while simultaneously acting like a European state in dealing with the EU or a 'fellow' Islamic nation whenever the situation has been convenient. It's no identity crisis, they too have been being intentionally underhanded.

This is compounded by this behavior they have adopted from western nations like the US to always use proxy states to carry out all their dirty work, so they always have an element of deny-ability when they are blamed for meddling and can carry out war crimes with impunity. E.x. the US government's official policy is that it does not torture; but instead there's clear evidence POWs were sent to places in the KSA where they tortured them with impunity to extract information. Turkey's proxy has become Azerbaijan.

 
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« Reply #106 on: March 08, 2012, 03:12:05 PM »
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Moso Jaan

The links between Iran and Armenia are secular. Shireen and Farhad is to us what Tristan & Iseult or Romeo & Juliette is to Europeans. I lived up to the age of 6 near Villa Street in Tehran, not far from the church. I used to hear stories regarding the infamous walk and the deportations that started at the 19th century and went on till the end of WWI. Have I noticed any animosity between iranian Azeri and Armenians? No personally. And I will never accept the idea that such thing happens.

Now, these Extreme Azeris are being used as instruments. Stalin and the Ottoman genocide then the karabakh war (where Azerbaijan was helped by the Israelis) did not arrange anything. Now they are getting hysteric over Iranian Armenian relations?
This is a tragic comedy!


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Hello friend,

Kemalists/Secular Azeris have always been used like tools by the Zionists. They have often tried to play the religion card to get the Islamic Community against us, but it has failed (except for Saudi Arabia and Pakistan being against us). The conflict is not about religion, rather about a Turkic ideology that wants to create a Great Turan. Our friendship is a powerful bond against the Turkic bound that seeks to counter all the non-Turkic players in the region. I don't know about Iran, but we have a very close alliance with Russia which also has always opposed such Turkic expansion.

 

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