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Signs build that Iran sanctions disrupt food imports
« on: February 08, 2012, 07:46:17 PM »
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Signs build that Iran sanctions disrupt food imports

Starving nations as collective punishment as a means to any end is the hallmark of Western civilization!

EDITORS' NOTE: Reuters and other foreign media are subject to Iranian restrictions on their ability to film or take pictures in Tehran. REUTERS/Morteza Nikoubazl

By Niluksi Koswanage and Parisa Hafezi

KUALA LUMPUR/TEHRAN | Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:23am EST

(Reuters) - More evidence emerged on Tuesday of the crippling impact of new sanctions on Iran, with international traders saying Tehran is having trouble buying rice, cooking oil and other staples to feed its 74 million people weeks before an election.

New U.S. financial sanctions imposed since the beginning of this year to punish Tehran over its nuclear program are playing havoc with Iran's ability to buy imports and receive payment for its oil exports, commodities traders said.

Iran denies that sanctions are causing serious harm to its economy, but Reuters investigations in recent days with commodities traders around the globe show serious disruptions to its imports. That is having a real impact on the streets of Iran, where prices for basic foodstuffs are soaring.

South Korean President Lee Myung-bak was in Saudi Arabia on Tuesday, the latest leader of a major Asian oil importing country to visit the Middle East seeking alternative sources of oil as sanctions make it more difficult to import from Iran.

Traders in Asia told Reuters on Tuesday that Malaysian exporters of palm oil - the source of half of Iran's consumption of a food staple used to make margarine and confectionary - had halted sales to Iran because they could not get paid.

That followed news on Monday that Iran had defaulted on payments for rice from top supplier India, and news last week that Ukrainian shipments of maize had been cut nearly in half.

Rice is one of the main staples of the Iranian diet. With the rial currency plummeting, prices have more than doubled to $5 a kilo at bazaars in Iran from about $2 last year.

Maize is used primarily as animal feed, and the cost of meat has almost tripled to about $30 a kilo, beyond the budget of many middle class Iranian families.

The measures have had a dramatic impact on daily life in the country ahead of a March 2 parliamentary election that will pit supporters of hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad against opponents seen as even more conservative.

Reformists are barely represented in the election, which is being seen as a referendum on Ahmadinejad's economic policies that have seen subsidies for basic goods cut and replaced with direct payments to families.

Next month's election will be Iran's first since a presidential vote in 2009, when a disputed victory for Ahmadinejad triggered eight months of violent protests. The authorities put that revolt down by force, but since then the Arab Spring has shown the vulnerability of governments in the region to popular anger fuelled by economic hardship.

Traders in Malaysia's capital Kuala Lumpur said palm oil shipments to Iran had largely been halted since late last year, after U.S. and European sanctions made it difficult for buyers to obtain letters of credit and make payments via middlemen in the United Arab Emirates.

"They keep asking in the spirit of Muslim brotherhood. The last I heard was an enquiry for 5,000 tonnes for February or March delivery, but no one wants to take that risk now," said one trader in Kuala Lumpur, speaking on condition of anonymity while discussing commercial contracts.

A margarine factory owner in Iran, who asked not to be identified, said there was a shortage in supply of the oils needed to make margarine that could halt production soon.

"The way things are going, I predict that over next three to four months our edible oil will run out because of sanctions. It is no longer being imported and Iran itself cannot produce that much."

A Tehran market wholesaler said: "There is a big shortage of margarine in the market, due to drop in imports. What is being sold now is our previous stockpiles."

A default by Iranian buyers on purchases of 200,000 tonnes of Indian rice is potentially more crippling. The average Iranian eats 40 kilos of rice a year, 45 percent of which is imported, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. India is the main supplier.

The president of the All India Rice Exporters' Association said it was advising exporters to stop selling rice to Iran with the customary 90 days credit for payment.

"As part of our efforts to minimize losses, we are asking our colleagues to avoid sending rice on credit," Vijay Setia said.

Iranian buyers normally pay for Indian rice through middlemen in the UAE, but falls in Iran's rial means buyers have trouble covering the cost in hard currency.

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While it is too early to talk of hunger from the rising prices of food in Iran, international organizations are keeping an eye out for a sign of hardship.

Gaelle Stevenier, spokeswoman for the U.N.'s World Food Programme, said the agency was "monitoring" the situation but had no further comment.

The ultimate hammer blow to Iran's economy could come in the next few months if it becomes unable to sell the 2.6 million barrels of oil a day that it is accustomed to exporting, or is forced to offer such steep discounts that its revenue shrivels.

While Iran has a more diverse economy than other big oil exporters in the Gulf, energy exports are still its main source of earnings to buy food and other necessities.

Top oil exporter Saudi Arabia has promised to make up for any shortfalls if countries stop buying Iranian crude.

South Korea's Lee became on Tuesday the latest Asian leader to visit Saudi Arabia in search of additional oil supplies to replace possible cuts of oil from Iran. The leaders of Japan and China visited in recent weeks.

"I believe Saudi can play a major role in stabilizing the global economy," Lee said in a speech. Korea bought 87 percent of its oil from the Middle East last year, including 9 percent from Iran.

Where Iran is still able to sell oil, it has difficulty getting paid, or exchanging payment from the buyer's domestic currency into dollars so that it can use the money for international trade.

South Korea owes Iran's central bank some $5 billion for crude oil imports, but the money is trapped in the Korean banking system because of U.S. sanctions.

The European Union, which bought about a fifth of Iran's oil exports last year, has announced a total embargo which will take force over the next six months.

China, which also bought about a fifth of Iran's oil last year, is demanding steep discounts to keep doing business with Tehran, and has cut its imports by more than half over the first three months of this year while pressing Iran to cut its price.

A senior executive of a U.S. oil company said Saudi exports have risen by 200,000 barrels a day, mostly to Asia, making up for most of the decline in China's imports of Iranian oil. China has also been increasing its purchases from Russia and West Africa, oil traders say.

Energy is not the only Iranian export that has been hurt. Traders said that China is likely to cut its purchases of Iranian iron ore as well, worth $2 billion a year.

"There is a huge risk ahead, and many haven't realized it yet," said a senior executive at a Shanghai-based trading firm that has a long-term partnership with an Iranian ore supplier.

"It is easy for the United States to freeze our business, forcing large Chinese Iran ore traders, which have large trading volumes with Iran, to be more cautious when making bookings. It's not worth taking the risk."

A Chinese iron ore buyer based in eastern China's Shandong province said some of his Iranian suppliers had rushed shipments, a sign that they too were worried about potential payment problems. Shipments booked in February had arrived early, and he expected imports to decline by March.

The new U.S. sanctions, which come into effect gradually by June, would make it impossible for countries to use the international financial system to pay for Iranian oil. Washington has said it will provide waivers to countries to prevent chaos on oil markets, but wants them to demonstrate that they are cutting imports in order to receive the permits.

The sanctions have been imposed to halt Iran's nuclear program, which the West believes is being used to develop a nuclear bomb. Iran's leadership says the nuclear program is peaceful, and it is willing to endure sanctions to maintain it as a national right.

Last month, Iran took the important step of beginning production of highly enriched uranium at a new facility hidden deep under a mountain, where it would be difficult for U.S. or Israeli warplanes to destroy it.

Talks between Iran and the West over the nuclear program broke down a year ago. Iran has repeatedly said it wants to restart the talks, but has refused Western demands to make clear first that its uranium enrichment would be up for negotiation.

As the sanctions have tightened, Iranian officials have made repeated threats of military strikes against Mid-East shipping and the United States, which protects the Mid-East oil trade with a giant flotilla based in the Gulf.

In the latest threat, the Iranian ambassador to Russia was quoted on Tuesday by Interfax as saying Iran could strike U.S. military forces anywhere in the world.

(Additional reporting by Ruby Lian in Shanghai, David Stanway and Judy Hua in Beijing, Cho Mee-young in Seoul, Marwa Rashad in Riyadh, Ratanajyoti Dutta and Mayank Bhardwaj in New Delhi and Alex Lawler in London; Writing by Peter Graff)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/08/us-iran-asia-trade-idUSTRE8170Q420120208

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Re: Signs build that Iran sanctions disrupt food imports
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2012, 09:02:20 PM »
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These people have no souls..How could they preach human rights and yet deliberately pursue policies that punishes innocent people for no other reason than their refusal to bow to them..Iran will prevail..Most of the world are beginning to see the utter cruelty of the West and their hypocrisy when it comes to human rights..Their time will come..

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Signs build that Iran sanctions disrupt food imports
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2012, 09:06:24 PM »
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Unfortunately IRI is not taking advantage of this for domestic populations. There are things that IRI could very well do but are not happening. I don't understand what is going on!


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Re: Signs build that Iran sanctions disrupt food imports
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2012, 09:09:06 PM »
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what do you mean catsoo?

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Re: Signs build that Iran sanctions disrupt food imports
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2012, 09:14:44 PM »
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Like banning oil exports to the EU and such..Seems Iran's parliament keep dragging their feet on the issue..It's clear such a move will hurt the EU..I don't understand why they have sympathy for some EU states..It was a collective decision they took and must all suffer for it..

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Re: Signs build that Iran sanctions disrupt food imports
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2012, 09:23:22 PM »
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Like banning oil exports to the EU and such..Seems Iran's parliament keep dragging their feet on the issue..It's clear such a move will hurt the EU..I don't understand why they have sympathy for some EU states..It was a collective decision they took and must all suffer for it..

Don't you think that it would if it could. Suddenly loosing 20% of the countries income from oil is not something that is easily done. Finding alternative markets takes time as well. China and India will haggle...

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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2012, 09:30:06 PM »
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i think that iran already produces cooking oil and other dairy products. meat prices have been a huge problem for iran since years. Is their way iran could increase production?

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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2012, 09:55:25 PM »
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what do you mean catsoo?

Iran could build on the sever sanctions imposed by lashing at its enemies that they are using collective punishment much like Iraq policy to starve a nation to submission. Then institute an emergency program much like war times to control the economy to function properly to serve most of the population. Reduce imports and conserve its foreign currency which is by and large a national wealth and not a personal one. Outside of Iran, Iran must go on offensive, Raising the armed forces to red alert that would constitute war time measures in Persian Gulf, that means inspection of any ship going through the strait. Both of these actions will immediately raise the oil prices without any shots fired. Iran can talk to its allies in OPEC to distance themselves from sanctions on a member by announcing reduction in production. Countries like Iraq and Venezuela can see that such sanctions if successful can come to their doors someday.

Iranians must be prepared for war n accept it as a very strong possibility, as such Iranians and the Iranian government must get into a different gear all together. This will also send a strong message to outside world that Iran means it, this will again push the oil prices higher. Business in the Persian will also be hurt for the Sheikhs and not just for Iran. Europe is in its toughest winter and the time to act is right now.

Now you see what I mean? I can add a lot more but.......!

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Re: Signs build that Iran sanctions disrupt food imports
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2012, 10:09:25 PM »
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Iran could build on the sever sanctions imposed by lashing at its enemies that they are using collective punishment much like Iraq policy to starve a nation to submission. Then institute an emergency program much like war times to control the economy to function properly to serve most of the population. Reduce imports and conserve its foreign currency which is by and large a national wealth and not a personal one. Outside of Iran, Iran must go on offensive, Raising the armed forces to red alert that would constitute war time measures in Persian Gulf, that means inspection of any ship going through the strait. Both of these actions will immediately raise the oil prices without any shots fired. Iran can talk to its allies in OPEC to distance themselves from sanctions on a member by announcing reduction in production. Countries like Iraq and Venezuela can see that such sanctions if successful can come to their doors someday.

Iranians must be prepared for war n accept it as a very strong possibility, as such Iranians and the Iranian government must get into a different gear all together. This will also send a strong message to outside world that Iran means it, this will again push the oil prices higher. Business in the Persian will also be hurt for the Sheikhs and not just for Iran. Europe is in its toughest winter and the time to act is right now.

Now you see what I mean? I can add a lot more but.......!

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I believe Iran is portraying a sense of calm and 'business as usual' to show that the sanctions have had little effect.  I do agree, however, more aggressive and forward leaning external measures, examples which you mentioned, should be employed.  The combination of internal calm complemented with an aggressive external posture is, in my opinion, the most powerful combination.

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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2012, 10:26:20 PM »
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chevaz and noori al maliki are both in difficult times so asking them to reduce their oil production will not work. the other stuff about foreign currency well i must say iran must find ways to trade with out the dollar because i think there is no other way and also send agents to but the hard currency that iran needs into countries that iran trades with. boosting domestic production is a must and this needs not only as you said careful planing but also innovative thinking. for example in irans south there are large areas which could be cultivated but are not due to water shortage. if a efficient and effective water source can be found for these areas then it would not only provide much needed employment in the south but also free iran from food dependence dependence on other countries.

about the ship inspection and EU oil ban i dont know why iran is not taking advantage of the cold snap in Europe and ofcourse the fragile time in EU economy. they are ready to fall if iran only huffed at them. maybe iran is worried about the reaction that it might get from china? is there an influential party pressuring iran or the calls of prudent voices not being heard by other MPs, Ahmadinejad?

what is the media saying about this in iran. have they asked the parliament members why this is not advancing? maybe some one can tell the media to question the MPs about this.

about the readiness although iran as you know did announce this the forces are on alert on the eastern border as well as the airdefense but there is no word on the BM and naval forces in Persian gulf

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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2012, 12:17:11 AM »
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all of EU is under cold winter. even god is telling iri to cut the oil exports.

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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2012, 12:35:13 AM »
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Can we have a real source, maybe? Parisa Hafezi is a known BS propagandist, Reuters are not the most reliable on Iran either.

Iranian papers will be full of reports like these. No need to paste this.


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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2012, 02:18:04 AM »
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Mohsen,

Boosting production however is a long term strategy and Iran will have to get with it if by force. The image of Iran outside of Iran as it stands today is that Iran is being confused and disoriented at the best. That is not a good image to give to anyone when there is a talk of a fight. Politically speaking, Iran looks as exactly as her enemies want it. Iran has failed the publicity test from a well cohesive and united government in hand with most of its population. There has been and still is a massive amount of effort to put such an amount of pressure on Iran to crack Iranians with anxiety and its government disoriented and it is working. One has to look at the rush of Iranians to Dollar, high food prices, an incoherent government activities and so on. Iran has an image of a tough fighter yet this image has been melting fast.
 
IRI must quickly speak with one tune to give Iranians the trust they need to handle the coming troubles. Quickly have an air tight economic plan to reduce uncertainty and ambiguity. Convince population that there will be problems but with planning and cooperation they will be out of this race much stronger just as it has been since revolution. I have spoken against some IRI domestic policies for several years now and I am afraid some of Iran's problems are home grown. The wealth inequality takes time but it always will create distrust, anger and many more that end up being avalanches. Under austerity measures Iran can now have a fix. These can take pages after pages of discussions but most of us know a handful of suggestions, don't we?

Foreign policywise, Iran MUST go on offensive having in mind to hurt the enemy's pockets just as what they are trying to do to Iran. The ball is the oil prices! In fact, Iran has a far better situation and ability at herdisposal to do much worse to Western economies as they are trying do to Iran. Iran should not stand and watch others plan to starve Iranians under the banner of Freedom and Democracy. Iran must show she is very serious and determined to defend her people and their well being. unfortunately Iran is showing the other cheek! That is simply stupidity. Instead of ratcheting up threats Iran must simply ACT, that is what gains attention in American and European bed rooms not otherwise.

The Zionists have been threatening Iran and this is recorded in million ways. This is quite an evidence for Iran to have a ticket to do what she needs to do to defend herself by never keeping eyes off the Zionists as they are the very source of most Iran's problems. Iran must bring down the volume and the repetitions but ACT which will carry hell of a lot of weight than hot air.

Iran's calculated moves can send oil prices up and up and that must be the retaliation. This discussion can be very long but I guess by now everyone has got the point I am trying to make.


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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2012, 03:13:22 AM »
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ndia has increased oil imports from Iran to become the Islamic Republic's largest customer last month, ignoring recent sanctions imposed by US and EU on importing Iran’s oil.


According to The Wall Street Journal Iranian crude exports to India rose to 550,000 barrels a day in January, up 37.5 percent from December 2011.

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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2012, 06:59:19 AM »
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Catsoo,

I do understand you and all of your ideas and proposals are absolutly ok.

BUT, Iran is playing this geostrategic game  masterfully since 30 years.

The iranians are trying to do the best with the current EU sanctions and bans. For example the Oil Ban. Maybe they will try to get their benefits for the next six months, by taking european money for the oil and reorganazing the oil sell within the six month for new customers.

The iranian strategy, in economic terms, is simple: take the situation and try to get as much benefits as possible.

I think this is the only reason, why Iran still has a growing economy despite all these sanctions.

Nevertheless, I would like to see the european faces, when Iran halts all oil-exports within the next days.

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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2012, 11:39:55 AM »
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Catsoo,

I do understand you and all of your ideas and proposals are absolutly ok.

BUT, Iran is playing this geostrategic game  masterfully since 30 years.

The iranians are trying to do the best with the current EU sanctions and bans. For example the Oil Ban. Maybe they will try to get their benefits for the next six months, by taking european money for the oil and reorganazing the oil sell within the six month for new customers.

The iranian strategy, in economic terms, is simple: take the situation and try to get as much benefits as possible.

I think this is the only reason, why Iran still has a growing economy despite all these sanctions.

Nevertheless, I would like to see the european faces, when Iran halts all oil-exports within the next days.

this is not like the past 30 years. i think that members on this forum tend to forget and connect different things that are happening at this time. elections are coming up and irans intelligence and the supreme leader have already warned of a very sophisticated and coordinated attempt to cause havoc in iran and try to finally accomplish what they could not in 2009.

the EUs sanctioning of the iranian central bank at the same time banning sales of gold and silver to iran is clear as fresh running stream water that EU is trying to do just that. right now iran needs to retaliate and ban all oil export to the EU and indeed slow down traffic in the strait of harmouze. this will definitely cause the same havoc in the EU. and may even lead to its eventual collapse atleast for countries like greece and spain. this will reduce EUs political and economic clout and reduce pressure on iran. time to act is now.

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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2012, 02:25:27 PM »
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this is not like the past 30 years. i think that members on this forum tend to forget and connect different things that are happening at this time. elections are coming up and irans intelligence and the supreme leader have already warned of a very sophisticated and coordinated attempt to cause havoc in iran and try to finally accomplish what they could not in 2009.

the EUs sanctioning of the iranian central bank at the same time banning sales of gold and silver to iran is clear as fresh running stream water that EU is trying to do just that. right now iran needs to retaliate and ban all oil export to the EU and indeed slow down traffic in the strait of harmouze. this will definitely cause the same havoc in the EU. and may even lead to its eventual collapse atleast for countries like greece and spain. this will reduce EUs political and economic clout and reduce pressure on iran. time to act is now.


Soo true..The Idea is to give more ammo to anti-IRI faction to use for their campaign..I think it will fail in the long run..Iranians are the most educated and politically aware societies in the region..They can smell a rat when they see one..

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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2012, 03:39:39 PM »
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Rice is one of the main staples of the Iranian diet. With the rial currency plummeting, prices have more than doubled to $5 a kilo at bazaars in Iran from about $2 last year.

Maize is used primarily as animal feed, and the cost of meat has almost tripled to about $30 a kilo, beyond the budget of many middle class Iranian families.

Is that so? What an absurd - meat's price is $30 a kilo?

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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2012, 06:25:58 PM »
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Shiageorgia,

Not everywhere in the country the price of meat is $30/kg. Yes the prices has increased but there are price fluctuations from one part of Tehran to another. In the more rich areas, the price is increased because people can afford it and profits can be made, but in the southern parts of Tehran its more cheap.
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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2012, 09:51:58 AM »
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There's something fishy about this report. If the mentioned traders weren't able to export to Iran because of sanctions against the Central Bank of Iran making it impossible for the latter to get hold of US dollars needed to import goods from abroad, then why in the world would this selectively affect a couple of oil sellers in Malaysia? If what the paper states is true, then theoretically no company could export anything traded in US dollars to Iran as we speak, regardless where the company is located and what products it sells. All exports to Iran must have come to a halt and Iranian imports would equal zero as we speak.

Now there could be explanations I didn't think of, but in that case Reuters should have addressed it, instead of pretending not to have noticed the apparent logical flaw. The reason for this lies probably in the fact that Reuters news reports on Iran are not intended to inform objectively, but to wage psychological war against the Iranian people, with a focus on economic security as of late, in order to increase the indirect effects of the illegal sanctions targetting ordinary Iranians. 

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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2012, 10:45:19 AM »
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Shiageorgia,

Not everywhere in the country the price of meat is $30/kg. Yes the prices has increased but there are price fluctuations from one part of Tehran to another. In the more rich areas, the price is increased because can afford it and profits can be made, but in the southern parts of Tehran its more cheap.

Ok good .... but still 30 USD per kg is toooo much.

In Europe, it is maximum 6-8 Euro per kg.

 

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