Author Topic: Sunni Sectarianist (SS) Body Count in the "Resistance Corridor" (Read 627 times)

parthenon · « **on:** October 28, 2011, 05:05:19 PM »

IRAN:
TEHRAN, Oct. 26 (Xinhua) -- A commander of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) was killed in northwest Iran by a landmine planted by the country's Kurdish rebels, the English- language Tehran Times daily reported Wednesday. The mine detonated while the IRGC officer and his disposal team were clearing mines planted by members of the Party of Free Life of Kurdistan (PJAK), said the report, without giving details.

IRAQ:
23:10 27/10/2011 RIANOVOSTI
Two bomb blasts have killed 18 people in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad, officials say.
The first explosion occurred in Ur, a mostly Shia district in northern Baghdad. The second blast occured after rescue workers had arrived at the scene.
Over 30 people are also reported to have been injured.
No group has claimed reponsibility for the blasts.
At least 28 people were killed by car and roadside attacks in Baghdad on 12 October.

Note: above has also been reported by Western News Media for a change but with the hardly veiled message of "serves you right for kicking out our military from your country"

SYRIA:
DAMASCUS, Oct. 27 (Xinhua) -- Dozens of policemen and civilians were killed or injured by gunmen in central Syria, where armed groups were enforcing a general strike, the private newspaper al- Watan reported Thursday.

LEBANON:
none(?)

reza18 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 28, 2011, 07:14:45 PM »

The US, Saudi, UAE, Jordanian and Israeli are scared to death about the growing influence of Iran in the region..Iran's soft power is their number one headache..I expect more assassinations and terror attacks against Iran perceived interest...

Iran too has been too calm for my liking...

DarkOmen · « **Reply #2 on:** October 29, 2011, 01:33:34 PM »

you can rest assured that the blood of these martyrs is being avenged as we speak, hundreds of wahhabi backed scum are being put down each day and inshallah the heads of the snake will be cut off soon as well.

Jonk89 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 29, 2011, 11:19:46 PM »

Quote from: DarkOmen on October 29, 2011, 01:33:34 PM

you can rest assured that the blood of these martyrs is being avenged as we speak, hundreds of wahhabi backed scum are being put down each day and inshallah the heads of the snake will be cut off soon as well.

I am with you brother.

parthenon · « **Reply #4 on:** November 02, 2011, 05:29:26 PM »

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2011-11-02 18:09:22

BAGHDAD, Nov. 2 (Xinhua) -- The monthly death toll among Iraqis from violence sharply climbed in October comparing to the previous month, Iraqi authorities said on Wednesday.
Figures compiled by Iraqi ministries of interior, defense and health showed that 258 people have been killed by the attacks during October across the country, including 161 civilians and 97 security members.
October's death toll is much higher than of September when the authorities announced the death of a total of 185 Iraqis.
The last month's figures also showed that a total of 438 people were wounded across the country, including 243 security members.
Also last month, the U.S. military announced the death of five of its soldiers across the country, bringing the overall death toll for U.S. soldiers who have been killed in Iraq to 4,482 since the breakout of the U.S.-led war in Iraq in 2003, according to media account based on Pentagon figures.
U.S. military forces are to pull out completely from Iraq by the end of 2011, according to the security pact named Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) signed late in 2008 between Baghdad and Washington.
Violence in the country underscores the challenges that the Iraqi security forces are facing as they struggle to restore stability and normalcy in Iraqi cities ahead of the departure of all American forces by the end of 2011.

parthenon · « **Reply #5 on:** February 16, 2012, 11:40:56 AM »

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...The same foreign terror network that set up "business" in Iraq...has branched into Syria and those who argue this is merely another lucky instance of the "Arab Spring", are dangerously naive or worse, criminally reprehensible...

Well I don't know about the "branched" part. From the current Iraqi casualty figures it looks more like a temporary(?) "mass migration" to Syria, further boosted by the Libyan "rebels".

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-02/16/c_131414645.htm

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Allies help Syria withstand economic hardship
English.news.cn 2012-02-16 16:20:01

DAMASCUS, Feb. 16 (Xinhua) -- Economic coercion is increasing on Syria by Arab and Western countries as a new tactic aimed at speeding up the downfall of the Syrian regime. Yet, the country's few friends and allies have helped it withstand the overwhelming measures over the past 11 months.

The United States, the European Union and most of Arab countries have levied economic sanctions on Syria for its allegedly violent crackdown on protesters. The sanctions targeted numerous sectors ranging from banking to oil. Threats to introduce more penalties to further tighten the financial noose around Damascus and squeeze its staggering economy lie ahead.

The firmness of the Syrian economy, which is groaning under the weight of the sanctions, has surprised and confused most of Syria' s foes and inspired admiration among others.

Observers believe that some regional countries have robustly assisted Syria to stand up to economic pressures more likely to protect their own interests.

Recently leaked document said Iran has allocated 1 billion U.S. dollars to import Syrian commodities to help Syria to overcome oil and banking penalties. Iran also offered to export all equipment and raw materials the Syrian market might need.

The U.S. Finance Department said recently that it has reliable information that Iran is buying Syrian oil and then export it through its ports to world market, as part of its endeavors to break the oil embargo imposed on Syria's oil sales.

It said Iran was able to move 91 tons of oil, equivalent to 650, 000 barrels, of the Syrian port of Banias to the Iranian port of Dilem from Nov. 28 until the end of December 2011.

It stressed that Iran is backing the Syrian regime with all its financial and military potentials.

Iraq, likely under pressure from Iran, provides an economic corridor for the sanctions-hit Syria and has recently announced the opening of its borders before all Syrian products that continue to flow into Iraqi markets. Iraq has also continued its oil exports to Syria.

Following the collapse of the former Iraqi regime, Syria's ties with its eastern neighbor have remarkably improved. Iraq ranked number one among Arab countries that import Syrian goods.

Lebanon, a close ally of Syria, has also rejected the Arab League's (AL) calls to impose sanctions on Syria and said overtly it won't abide by them as the two countries' relations are intricately integrated.

Syria imports nearly four percent of its goods from Lebanon.

Jordanian officials have also voiced rejection to abide by the AL's sanctions, contending that the sanctions would backfire on the Jordanian people rather than the Syrians as Syria is a conduit for Jordanian goods destined for Gulf and European countries.

Although the government is still striving to weather the storm, the Syrians have started feeling the heat of the crisis and wondered how long it can stand up to those crushing pressures.

Even the moneyed classes that supposedly supported the regime at the beginning of the crisis have started complaining as their businesses have dramatically sapped.

Ordinary Syrians are mostly affected by the sanctions, and have lost almost half of their savings' value due to the depreciation of the Syrian pound that has dropped 50 percent, from 47 against one dollar to 71 against one dollar on the black market.

This has sparked a rise in most of goods and put more hardship on people's budgets.
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Mr-Babak-S · « **Reply #6 on:** February 16, 2012, 01:38:06 PM »

I don't like the term "Sunni Sectarian" because it invites feelings of animosity and division.

The Sunnis are not Wahabi anymore than the Shia are Bahai.

Islamic unity is very important for me. I'd like to see the full power of Muslims come together in mass. This can't happen if we are using verbiage that isolates each other.

I hear the Wahabi using a great deal of hateful speech and slurs against Shia while the Wahabi pretend to be Sunnis.
We should not fall into their game by responding negatively against the label of Sunnis.

parthenon · « **Reply #7 on:** February 16, 2012, 06:58:58 PM »

Hmmm, maybe you're right. I was looking for a passe-partout for the "Wahabi", "Salafi" and sundry mass murdering groups with mainly Islamic blood on their hands (let's not forget "al-Qaeda" by all means) and only Sunni sects tend to indulge in this kind of "purism". Besides, the "SS" acronym was too tempting to resist.

Mr-Babak-S · « **Reply #8 on:** February 17, 2012, 01:17:03 AM »

Salafi Sect, SS.

Over at another site that I visit, http://http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/ some times, there are a couple of Wahabi fanatics that keep accusing Iran of partnering with the USA and the Zionists to murder Sunnis.

They say that Iran gave intelligence info to the USA when the USA invaded Afghanistan, and they claim that Iran helped in the invasion of Iraq by, among other things, sending death squads to Iraq and allowing the Iraqi anti-Saddam Shia resistance who had taken refuge in Iran to cross the border and attack the Iraqi army at the same time that the USA was invading, thus inhibiting Iraq's defenses.

They then go into fantasy land and start to claim that Khomeini's father was a British spy (rehashed Savak propaganda) and that Iran and Saudi Arabia are secretly in league, blah blah blah.

They are also supportive of the Syrian rebels against Basher al-Asad.

It's annoying and interferes with a productive discussion.

I don't have the patience or time to argue too much. Maybe you'd like to visit there and mention some things.

spectator · « **Reply #9 on:** February 17, 2012, 01:54:09 AM »

Quote from: parthenon on February 16, 2012, 06:58:58 PM

Hmmm, maybe you're right. I was looking for a passe-partout for the "Wahabi", "Salafi" and sundry mass murdering groups with mainly Islamic blood on their hands (let's not forget "al-Qaeda" by all means) and only Sunni sects tend to indulge in this kind of "purism". Besides, the "SS" acronym was too tempting to resist.

Because Sunni sect are the main body of the ummah and anything else offshooting from is seen as deviants.

Moon · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2012, 04:20:14 AM »

I guess it depends on how you define 'main' in this context spectator. If by main you mean majority, then yes, Sunnis are main and anything else is offshoot. However is by 'main' you mean those closest to the teachings of Islam both in principle and practice, then I'm afraid what we have today as Sunni leadership both politically and theologically, your majority suddenly becomes a distance tiny minority. Islam from the beginning was never about quantity ( numbers), it was always and will always be about the quality (true believers).From this quality perspective, your majority main suddenly becomes the offshoot.It all depends on what criteria you use!

Emirzaad · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2012, 04:49:05 AM »

Brathran .... a thick majority of Sunnis are not wahabis , fact is among sunnis we have divisions that are hostile towards eachother e.g sufi vs wahabi ... wahabis claim to be sunnis but they r not , yes they r an offshoot of Hanbalism but even hnabalis dont recognize them ... wahabis r a different sect , other than shiites or sunnis .

reza18 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2012, 07:57:31 AM »

Wahabism has hijacked the Sunni identity much like Zionism has hijacked the Jewish identity..So one can say most Zionists are Jews but now all Jews are Zionists..Most Wahabis are Sunnis but not all Sunnis are Wahabis..All suicide bombers are "Sunnis" but not all "Sunnis" are suicide bombers..

Wahabism is preserved by massive amount of Saudi Petro dollars...

Emirzaad · « **Reply #13 on:** February 17, 2012, 09:57:20 AM »

fact is ... if today Iran along with Shiite and ethnic Iranic identity also owns Moderate Sunni Ideology e.g. Sufi Sunnism to counter Arabian Wahhabi then it will be advantageous for Iran .

parthenon · « **Reply #14 on:** February 17, 2012, 11:31:18 AM »

Your contributions are much appreciated but if you agree with Mr-Babak-S (he has a point!) I suggest we continue this thread under a less controversial title.

Very wise words BTW, reza18:

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Wahabism has hijacked the Sunni identity much like Zionism has hijacked the Jewish identity..So one can say most Zionists are Jews but now all Jews are Zionists..Most Wahabis are Sunnis but not all Sunnis are Wahabis..All suicide bombers are "Sunnis" but not all "Sunnis" are suicide bombers..

MO_SOBOH · « **Reply #15 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:50:49 PM »

I think brother Pasdar summed up everything in a few words...

Mr-Babak-S · « **Reply #16 on:** February 18, 2012, 12:57:56 PM »

About the time that the muhajarin Muslims migrated from Mecca to Medina, the ansar Muslims already in Medina had been united from two tribes, the Aws and the Khazraj, if memory serves me correctly.
In order to weaken the Muslims, the Jews of Medina began to remind the ansar Muslims of their previous conflicts while they were divided as Aws and Khazraj, in order to get them to start fighting again.

This sort of tactic of weakening an opponent by encouraging division among them is an old tactic of the Jews. Today some of them go online pretending to be from one group of Muslims in order to say hurtful words to other groups of Muslims in order to spread animosity.

We should be careful not to fall into their trap.

Parthenon:

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continue this thread under a less controversial title.

Okay, what should we entitle it and in what section?

Reza18:

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. . . most Zionists are Jews . . .

Actually, technically speaking, most Zionists in the USA are people who call themselves Christians.
There are some 30 million of these so-called "Christian" Zionists in the USA who are hard corp advocates of IsraHell.
One of these Zionists was a preacher named Pat Robertson who was such a fanatical Zionist that when Ariel Sharon got sick, Robertson said that it was because God was punishing Sharon because he had withdrawn some settlements from some occupied areas.

Furthermore, traditional Jews such as the Naturae Karta point out that in the talmud, breaking the exile (Zionism) is forbidden even under the pain of death and torture.

Reza 18:

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. . . All suicide bombers are "Sunnis" . . .

I suspect that at least in a few cases, there are Mossad or CIA operatives that plant bombs in mosques (perhaps in a satchel) so that they can frame the Sunnis and get the Muslim divisions heated.

Don't forget that in Iraq, some British SAS or MI6 were captured in Arab garments with bomb making and explosives in the trunk of their car.

Emerizad:

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. . . wahabis claim to be sunnis but they r not , yes they r an offshoot of Hanbalism but even hnabalis dont recognize them ... wahabis r a different sect , other than shiites or sunnis . . .

I agree with that.

The Wahabi are based on ibn Taymiyah who claimed in shirk that Allah's attributes are literal (such as having hands, etc) and that Allah sits on a literal throne, astaghfurillah.

The Wahabi / Salafi claim that the traditional Sunnis were mushrik for over a 1000 years!

The Saudis were desert bandits who adopted Wahab the Najdi in order to gain religious legitimacy for themselves. Later, the British raised the Saudis to power in the Hijaz.

Wahabi and Sunnis are clearly two different things.

parthenon · « **Reply #17 on:** February 19, 2012, 09:29:57 AM »

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....continue this thread under a less controversial title.

Okay, what should we entitle it and in what section?

Be my guest.

Emirzaad · « **Reply #18 on:** March 03, 2012, 11:59:56 PM »

Quote from: Mr-Babak-S on February 18, 2012, 12:57:56 PM

Emerizad:
I agree with that.

The Wahabi are based on ibn Taymiyah who claimed in shirk that Allah's attributes are literal (such as having hands, etc) and that Allah sits on a literal throne, astaghfurillah.

The Wahabi / Salafi claim that the traditional Sunnis were mushrik for over a 1000 years!

The Saudis were desert bandits who adopted Wahab the Najdi in order to gain religious legitimacy for themselves. Later, the British raised the Saudis to power in the Hijaz.

Wahabi and Sunnis are clearly two different things.

exactly .... fact is most of the Sunnis in todays world r Hanafi ( including me ) and if u remember that Imam Abu hanifeh himself was an ethnic Persian ... lol on arabis who try to own sunnism ...

I am 100 % sure that if today Iran owns Hanafism using Imam Abu Hanifas ethnicity or whatever reason ... open a Hanafi centre in Tehran , Esfahan etc . get few prominent Sunni Scholars there as a face , with some strong media coverage then it will attract alot of Sunnis from Afghanistan , Pakistan , Tajikistan , Turkiye etc ... wahabism would be segregated with time from mainstream sunni hanafism ...

Moon · « **Reply #19 on:** March 06, 2012, 03:23:52 AM »

Wahabism is using Saudi oil money as life blood,with the Western backing of course.This is all an act, to convince unsuspecting Muslims of the 'purity' of the Wahabi ideology. Outwardly is made to appear very 'clean' when actually the inside its rotten. This appearance vs reality runs through many problems Muslims face today.Wahabism in a Muslim mind is even more dangerous as it gives that false sense of security about Islam.On one hand it claim 'purity' while on the other it was established by enemies of Islam and it is still safeguarded by the enemies of Islam even today.These Wahabis are doing such harm to Islam, far more than non-muslims can do.We living in very dangerous times, very dangerous.