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Those are the people killed by the "peaceful protesters" armed by western intelligence services, in order to frame and put blame on the Syrian government. These videos don't prove anything that you are trying to allude to.

Independent journalist who have gone to Syria, sat the people demand the Syrian army to come and protect them from these thugs which are killing civilians. You seem to have been mistaken, the people killed in those videos you posted were done by armed thugs. The question you should ask is, who is arming them. The answer is simple, USA/Israel and Saudi Araiba.

Now you should ask 'why'?

It's really simple, kids will believe the propaganda generated by western media outlets and put the blame on the government which is part of the axis of resistance.

I think your name is fraudulent, if you really want a free palestine, then you should see which governments are standing up to the hegemonic powers who are keeping palestine locked up.

Your verbal abuse of other members on this forum, only shows you weakness and not strength.

 The fact that you regurgitate western media propaganda and post videos which are unsubstantiated and have no source, only proves to senior members in this forum that you are probably 17 or 18 years old at most.

I don't think our little friend here quite understands the other view of things.

Nobody denies innocent people are being shot and massacred, the point is that they are shot and massacred by Salafist herds. who have so far also murdered over 100s Shia, police, military and christians, this is no convenient coincidence, this happens all over the arab world where wahhabism from Saudi Arabia (a backward ideology that challenges the traditional four schools, two of whom have interwoven ideological motives with the Shia, and must be 'reformed') is on the rise among Sunnis, especially where literacy and civil society is low. Also, as we saw from the interview with Webster Tarpley, who has been to Syria, people in places like Der'aa are scared to death of snipers randomly shooting people to frame Assad for the crime, a typical CIA tactic used all over Latin America and even 2009 Iran by opposition forces to overthrow governments through US black ops.

The people who oppose Assad, oppose him for all of the wrong reasons. Their motivation is not freedom or democracy, but that Assad is a Shia, and of course, Shia are jews, kuffar, untrustworthy, wretched and worthy of killing and must be driven out from Syria. Imam Hassoun, also a Salafist has taken a worthy stance against this ignorance, and has supported Assad, he is the main leaders of Sunnism in Syria, and has shown exceptional courage in stating that he was approached by these thugs, he wanted them to explain why they wanted to overthrow Assad, and they could not give a coherent answer to him, so he rejected their backward movement.

The only crime by Syria is that it has not taken the route of North Korea, and instead, throughout the years Syria has been a place where Wahhabis from Afghanistan and Iraq returned, but also where US operatives were free to carry out spy activity.

Iran has every right to react, and not take it lightly.

not related to topic but interesting

Israel, Jordan on alert over threatened Syrian revenge for 6 pilots' deaths
DEBKAfile Special Report November 25, 2011, 7:45 PM (GMT+02:00) Tags:  Syria   Free Syrian Army   Bashar Assad   Israel   Jordan   Free Syrian Army on attackIsraeli and Jordanian armed forces declared a state of preparedness Friday, Nov. 25, after the Syrian General Command accused an "armed terrorist" group of an ambush killing 10 airmen including 6 elite pilots on the Homs-Palmyra road Thursday, "with the involvement of foreign parties, the foremost of which is Israel."

debkafile's military and intelligence sources report the ambush was another of the major operations against Assad regime's most sensitive targets executed by the Free Syrian Army this week.

It took place at a point on the highway east of Palmyra on the fringe of the Syrian Desert and close to the Syrian Air Force base at Tiyas.

The official statement aired on Syrian state TV said the attack claimed the lives of six elite pilots, one technical officer and three technical sub-officers of the airbase.
Our sources add that the rebel army must have penetrated the highest levels of Syria's military intelligence command for the attack and was clearly receiving targeting data from inside the armed forces.
The attack took place two days after the Free Syrian Army using rocket grenade launchers and heavy machine guns smashed into the Air Force Intelligence base of Harasta near Damascus, killing at least 10 Syrian troops. The ruling Baath party headquarters in Damascus was also attacked on Thursday.

The official statement broadcast Friday described the pilots as "qualitatively trained in piloting modern military aircraft" and "prepared to carry out "the sacred duty of liberating the land and restoring the usurped rights."

It went on to say: "The General Command… considers that the beneficiaries of this terrorist act are the enemies of the homeland and the nation, foremost being Israel."

The Syrian military vowed "to cut every evil hand that targets Syrian blood, and decisively confront all who threaten the homeland's security and stability."

The 24-hour lapse between the attack and the official statement indicated the level of dismay and confusion in Damascus over the sudden assault on the most stalwart buttress of the Assad dynasty in the nine-month crisis and a body blow to his regime.

Bashar Assad cannot afford to avoid retaliating. If he does, it will be an admission that the backbone of his armed forces is falling apart and out of control.

Since there is no knowing what form his revenge will take, Israel, Jordan and most likely Turkey too were braced Friday for trouble.

Assad no doubt took into account that bombing Free Syrian Army training bases across the border in Turkey would bring forth a Turkish military strike. So for now, he decided to point the finger at Israel, a reliable standby when the regime has its back to the wall. Jordan, through which large arms supplies reach the Syrian opposition, may seem to Damascus to be easy prey for the bombardment or raid of bases hosting Syrian rebels.
In the heat of the crisis, the Syrian ruler allowed the deadline set by the Arab League of his acceptance of hundreds of monitors go by Friday without an answer. "It is a last chance, a new chance for Syria,” Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu told reporters in Istanbul at a joint news conference with his Jordanian counterpart Nasser Judeh. By missing the deadline, Damascus faces possible economic sanctions spearheaded by the Arab League, which earlier this month suspended Syrian membership, amid growing international isolation

PERSPOLIS, please don't post that debka trash on this forum. It's not worthy of even commenting on.

FreePalestine,

The whole issue in Syria now is destroying a country that wants to Free Palestine. Its not a matter about Shia/Sunni. Assad is the only arab leader backing the resistance. His fall is not good for Palestine. If you want to Free Palestine, you have to support Iran, Syria and the resistance groups. Currently there is no other way.

As i noticed that you consider erdogan to be an economic miracle, may i ask you how much dept turkey has? and how much Syria has?

Economy is not everything... You have to be free... No body doubts that working closely with USA, EU and the rest of the powers who "Steel" the world will get you a good economy.... the challenge is doing a good economy while you are free and independent.. while you make your own policies and support the right causes... an independent economy will make you more Independent... A slave economy will increase your slavery .... to the extent that your enemies start putting radars on your land to watch those who are working day and night to Free Palestine.

The problem with freepalestine is that he thinks Al Saud`s arabia and Turkey (gobble gobble) actually want to free palestine. They have kept their mouth shut or have been cooperating with Israel/USA ever since their creation as a nation state.

Now that there are actual resistance groups which are willing and able to free palestine and are about to, its just a matter of time, these losers have opened their mouth for this cause and are trying to deviate as many people as they can, away from this cause of freeing palestine.

Not only are these countries not helping the resistance or helping the palestinians gain independence, but they have done their utmost against any resistance group which is striving to free palestine.

You really need to understand the scope of things.

Freepalestine.

Who do you support exactly if not Syria, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas and the rest of the resistance axis?

You support Turkey? and their government has GREAT relations with Saudi Arabia, yet you don't support Syria, who has GREAT relations with Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah. Make it clear who you support, since you have made it clear you don't support Syria.

Its hypocritical form of support for the palestinians, saying you want them to be free'd yet you propagate against the only government in the Arab world that is supporting the resistance movements such as Hezbollah and Hamas, against the zionist entity.

Syria, through their support for Hezbollah, has been able to free many parts of Lebanon and the only reason they haven't free'd the Golan Heights is because that would require a full out war with USA/Israel since that is a ultra important strategic location for the zionists.

I don't think our little friend here quite understands the other view of things.

Nobody denies innocent people are being shot and massacred, the point is that they are shot and massacred by Salafist herds. who have so far also murdered over 100s Shia, police, military and christians, this is no convenient coincidence, this happens all over the arab world where wahhabism from Saudi Arabia (a backward ideology that challenges the traditional four schools, two of whom have interwoven ideological motives with the Shia, and must be 'reformed') is on the rise among Sunnis, especially where literacy and civil society is low. Also, as we saw from the interview with Webster Tarpley, who has been to Syria, people in places like Der'aa are scared to death of snipers randomly shooting people to frame Assad for the crime, a typical CIA tactic used all over Latin America and even 2009 Iran by opposition forces to overthrow governments through US black ops.

The people who oppose Assad, oppose him for all of the wrong reasons. Their motivation is not freedom or democracy, but that Assad is a Shia, and of course, Shia are jews, kuffar, untrustworthy, wretched and worthy of killing and must be driven out from Syria. Imam Hassoun, also a Salafist has taken a worthy stance against this ignorance, and has supported Assad, he is the main leaders of Sunnism in Syria, and has shown exceptional courage in stating that he was approached by these thugs, he wanted them to explain why they wanted to overthrow Assad, and they could not give a coherent answer to him, so he rejected their backward movement.

The only crime by Syria is that it has not taken the route of North Korea, and instead, throughout the years Syria has been a place where Wahhabis from Afghanistan and Iraq returned, but also where US operatives were free to carry out spy activity.

Iran has every right to react, and not take it lightly.

I hardly think it's just salafister who oppose the current president. It might as well be a practicing Muslim.

Do not come here to say that Assad is a practicing Muslim. I had chosen Mousavi over Assad. Without a doubt.

Assad is one that promote secularism. Opposite of what the Iranian leaders stand for.


Dude, do you think some muslims want Assad as a leader?

Most people who support him are secularists  too...

Listen Freepalestine, i thought EXACTLY the way you have. What you just explained, is almost my exact thought pattern previously. However, this changed when they openly showed hostility towards Syria, which is an ally of Iran and resistance movements in the region, including Hamas.  To be honest, i somehow still try and believe Erdogan is for real. But their position regarding Syria is detrimental to the region and in no way beneficial for all those who oppose the zionists and America in the region.

This has exposed them as subservient to western interests and are doing this in order to be introduced into the EU and furthermore, they are doing this because they need the financial aid which Saudi Arabia has promised to provide them. I don't have the time, nor the knowledge in this issue to argue further.

Go to www.iraniandefence.com and ask the moderator there, Kermanshahi, why Erdogan is actually subservient to the west. It would be interesting to see you two discuss this. He is very knowledgeable regarding this issue in particular.

are you even being serious now? thats all you have left? common bro, use a little common sense, stop with your bias comment just so not to lose the argument.
turkey became a member of NATO before erdogan came to power.
attaturk is dead.
the british have no power in todays turkey.
turkey is not fighting against anyone currently accept the communist terrorists(pjak-pkk)

I lost the argument by engaging in it, this argument is a lost cause. " A wise man once told me: ' don't argue with fools, because people from a distance wont know who is who"

But since you accuse me of being "biased" and lacking "common sense", you should realize your view is hypocritical all together. This is the main reason i engaged your silly, ill witted and child grade posts.

attaturk might be dead, but his poster, statue, etc etc, is embedded within turkish nationalists heads. Therefore he is alive, at least his persona is. Its in every text book, in every school, in every village/city in Turkey. They worship him.

There are muslims in turkey who refer to him as mustafa kamal and do not worship him. Regardless these numbers are not the one's ruling turkey. i was pointing out your hypocritical view. You accuse Syria of being secular country, yet Turkey is a secular country which has had 4 coups by the military for anyone who leaned slightly towards islam, or anyone who leaned away from America/NATO.

You are supporting a NATO country,  against a country which is allied with the axis of resistance. You have your priorities mixed up and have fed into the propaganda that the western media has generated, right after they paid some snipers to shoot at civilians in order to frame the government.

Furthermore, if you do not support Saudi Arabia, America, Israel, UK etc, how can you support a country which is heavily allied with them, like Turkey, against a country, Syria, who is allied with Iran/Hezbollah/Hamas/Lebanon/Iraq (resistance bloc). Therefore you fallaciously supporting a government, who seems like, by design is meant to gain people like you to their corner.

Reply, since i have lost the argument anyway, but i won't reply again to your nonsense.

I just banned "FreePalestine" because he was the same person as "Mehdiarmy" who had been banned before.

I am sorry I would have banned him earlier but I have been away.

Izi brother,

where are these IP's from? He seemed like an imposter, or absolutely lost.