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US and Israel fear Iran may be capable of a nuclear test this year
DEBKAfile DEBKA-Net-Weekly July 19, 2010, 6:07 PM (GMT+02:00)Tags: Iran nuclear Shahram Amiri US intelligence

Shahram Amiri's heroes' welcome raised suspicionsShahram Amiri's voluntary repatriation to Iran and a second close look at the nuclear data he passed to the CIA are raising grave doubts about its value, debkafile's intelligence sources report. There is mounting suspicion in Washington and Jerusalem that Tehran employed the scientist to strew red herrings in their path, namely, out-of-date material for concealing and misdirecting their attention from the rapid progress taking place secretly in Iran's nuclear program.
A high-ranking intelligence source in Washington remarked Monday, July 19, that he would not be surprised "if we woke up one morning to find the Iranians had conducted an underground nuclear test." This was not to say Iran had a bomb or nuclear warhead ready packed for delivery, he said, "Only that it was a lot closer to this option than the Americans and Israelis had been led to believe."
Therefore, as of now, their forecast of a nuclear test capability has been brought forward to within the five months remaining of 2010.
Our sources report this revised forecast has emerged from US intelligence analysts' examination of two new premises regarding Amirir's input in the years he served as US informant:

1. That he was an Iranian double agent and his apparent defection to the United States just over a year ago was fake, engineered by Iran's Ministry of Intelligence and Security (MOIS).
2. That Shahram Amiri, the nuclear scientist, was a made-up identity. After he landed to a heroes' welcome in Tehran last Thursday, July 15, Deputy Foreign Minister Hassan Qashqavi said: "Shahram Amiri is not a nuclear scientist and we reject it." Another Iranian official called him a clever spy who had managed to infiltrate US intelligence and deceive them for years.
As DEBKA-Net-Weekly 453 revealed on July 16, Amiri's work with the CIA did not begin in 2007but three years earlier in 2004.
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The following is a short excerpt from that issue:
Many moves made by the administrations under George W. Bush and, since January 2009, Barack Obama, were based on the information and documents that Amiri provided.
If Amiri was a double agent planted by the MOIS, then Tehran had been able to manipulate these policies and anticipate their course.

Even if real nuggets were mixed in with the false data - a common ruse for making false intelligence appear credible - it still meant that Iran's leaders controlled the flow of factual information to the West and were in a position to change it in good time - so that when Amiri was asked by his US handlers to amplify on a piece of real information, it was no longer valid; Iran had moved on and created a new set of facts, unbeknownst to the Americans.

A striking example of this tactic was the secret enrichment plant in a mountain near Qom, which became the subject of a dramatic joint appearance on Sept. 25, 2009 in Pittsburgh by President Obama, French president Nicolas Sarkozy and George Brown, then British prime minister.
The US president's knowledge was based on data Amiri had relayed to the United States.
Throwing down the gauntlet, the US president gave Iran a two-week ultimatum to come clean on its hidden facility.
In fact, the Qom facilities had been dismantled six months earlier and relocated to a spot never revealed to this day. When the IAEA inspectors turned up, they found empty tunnels.
That is why nothing more was ever heard of the US president's ultimatum.

Only in recent months, have US and allied agencies begun to appreciate that this technique of misdirection allowed Iran to pursue its nuclear and missile programs out of sight of spies and monitors. While the West and Israel relied on Amiri to keep them abreast of Iran's activities, nuclear development work went forward at still unknown locations and may have progressed a lot further than is suspected in the West.
To watch the courageous Afghan freedom fighters battle modern arsenals with simple hand held weapons is a inspiration to those who love freedom. Their courage teaches us a great lesson-- that there are things in this world worth defending !!!

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Obviously I have no 'inside' information on what really transpired.  However, as an 'outside' observer, it seems to me that from a defector's perspective, defecting has suddenly become much much more dangerous and that the CIA is simply much less trustworthy.   In other words, there is a chance that if one were to defect, they may end up in Iran at the end which is not enticing at all.  This alone, seems to me, is a coup by Iran.  BTW, I am not suggesting that Amiri was a defector.  What I am suggesting is if indeed this entire operation was botched by the CIA (which is possible), it makes a little more sense that Amiri was a double agent.  Again, none of these scenarios explain how he was let go and/or escaped which, again, regardless of the various scenarios, seems to me an enormous mistake by the CIA.

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US had denied any knowledge about Amiri for a long time.

When his video came out, US had no choice to let him go.

Once he was in Iran, US tried to make him look like spy to be able to use the data supposedly provided by him against Iran.

Nobody will accept US claim now about the nuclear weapon program on the laptop supposedly brought out from Iran. US is grasping at the moment to have any tangible evidence against Iran.

It is a great PR defeat for US, when the whole international community has believed in US stories about Iran nuclear program and all of the evidences has been shown one after one to be manufactured by Israel.

US has a very strong internal highly brainwashed and controlled media to propagate Israel version of the events. That's why this story has been out of favor by all major news organizations, otherwise the Amiri story is like finding Colin powell story in UN about Iraq was false, the day he delivered the story.

Amiri did a great service to Iran by refusing to be bought out by money.

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Obviously I have no 'inside' information on what really transpired.  However, as an 'outside' observer, it seems to me that from a defector's perspective, defecting has suddenly become much much more dangerous and that the CIA is simply much less trustworthy.   In other words, there is a chance that if one were to defect, they may end up in Iran at the end which is not enticing at all.  This alone, seems to me, is a coup by Iran.  BTW, I am not suggesting that Amiri was a defector.  What I am suggesting is if indeed this entire operation was botched by the CIA (which is possible), it makes a little more sense that Amiri was a double agent.  Again, none of these scenarios explain how he was let go and/or escaped which, again, regardless of the various scenarios, seems to me an enormous mistake by the CIA.

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Why the CIA is Trying to Burn Amiri

By GARETH PORTER

Contrary to a news media narrative that Iranian scientist Shahram Amiri has provided intelligence on covert Iranian nuclear weapons work, CIA sources familiar with the Amiri case say he told his CIA handlers that there is no such Iranian nuclear weapons programme, according to a former CIA officer.

Philip Giraldi, a former CIA counterterrorism official, told me that his sources are CIA officials with direct knowledge of the entire Amiri operation.

The CIA contacts say that Amiri had been reporting to the CIA for some time before being brought to the U.S. during Hajj last year, Giraldi said, initially using satellite-based communication. But the contacts also say Amiri was a radiation safety specialist who was "absolutely peripheral" to Iran's nuclear programme, according to Giraldi.

Amiri provided "almost no information" about Iran's nuclear programme, said Giraldi, but had picked up "scuttlebutt" from other nuclear scientists with whom he was acquainted that the Iranians have no active nuclear weapon programme.

Giraldi said information from Amiri's debriefings was only a minor contribution to the intelligence community's reaffirmation in the latest assessment of Iran's nuclear programme of the 2007 National Intelligence Estimate (NIE)'s finding that work on a nuclear weapon has not been resumed after being halted in 2003.

Amiri's confirmation is cited in one or more footnotes to the new intelligence assessment of Iran's nuclear programme, called a "Memorandum to Holders", according to Giraldi, but it is now being reviewed, in light of Amiri's "re- defection" to Iran.

An intelligence source who has read the "Memorandum to Holders" in draft form confirmed that it presents no clear-cut departure from the 2007 NIE on the question of weaponisation. The developments in the Iranian nuclear programme since the 2007 judgment are portrayed as "subtle and complex", said the source.

CIA officials are doing their best to "burn" Amiri by characterising him as a valuable long-term intelligence asset, according to Giraldi, in part in order to sow as much distrust of him among Iranian intelligence officials as possible.

But Giraldi said it is "largely a defence mechanism" to ward off criticism of the agency for its handling of the Amiri case.

"The fact is he wasn't well vetted," said Giraldi, adding that Amiri was a "walk- in" about whom virtually nothing was known except his job.

Although an investigation has begun within the CIA of the procedures used in the case, Giraldi said, Amiri's erstwhile CIA handlers still do not believe he was a double agent or "dangle".

What convinced CIA officers of Amiri's sincerity, according to Giraldi, was Amiri's admission that he had no direct knowledge of the Iranian nuclear programme.

A "dangle" would normally be prepared with some important intelligence that the U.S. is known to value.

Amiri's extremely marginal status in relation to the Iranian nuclear programme was acknowledged by an unnamed U.S. official who told The New York Times and Associated Press Friday that Amiri was indeed a "low-level scientist", but that the CIA had hoped to use him to get to more highly placed Iranian officials.

Giraldi's revelations about Amiri's reporting debunks a media narrative in which Amiri provided some of the key evidence for a reversal by the intelligence community of its 2007 conclusion that Iran had not resumed work on nuclear weapons.

An Apr. 25 story by Washington Post reporters Joby Warrick and Greg Miller said the long-awaited reassessment of the Iranian nuclear programme had been delayed in order to incorporate a "new flow of intelligence" coming from "informants, including scientists with access to Iran's military programs&."

They quote Director of National Intelligence Dennis C. Blair as explaining in an interview that the delay was because of "information coming in and the pace of developments".

Warrick and Miller reported that Amiri had "provided spy agencies with details about sensitive programs including a long-hidden uranium-enrichment plant near the city of Qom." Their sources were said to be "current and former officials in the United States and Europe".

Warrick and Miller could not get CIA officials to discuss Amiri. Instead they quoted the National Council of Resistance in Iran (NCRI) as saying that Amiri "has been associated with sensitive nuclear programs for at least a decade".

NCRI is the political arm of Mujahideen-e-Khalq (MEK), the anti-regime Iranian terrorist organization which has been a conduit for Israeli intelligence on the Iranian nuclear programme.

On Jun. 8, David E. Sanger of the New York Times cited "foreign diplomats and some American officials" as sources in reporting that a series of intelligence briefings for members of the U.N. Security Council last spring amounted to "a tacit admission by the United States that it is gradually backing away" from the 2007 NIE. Sanger referred to "new evidence" that allegedly led analysts to "revise and in some cases reverse" that estimate's conclusion that Iran was no longer working on a nuclear weapon.

Sanger cited "Western officials" as confirming that Amiri was providing some of the new information.

Three days later, the Washington Post ran another story quoting David Albright, director of the Institute for Science and International Security, as saying that the intelligence briefings for Security Council members had included "information about nuclear weaponisation" obtained from Amiri.

Albright said he had been briefed on the intelligence earlier that week, and the Post reported a "U.S. official" had confirmed Albright's account.

Subsequently, ABC News reported that Amiri's evidence had "helped to contradict" the 2007 NIE, and McClatchy Newspapers repeated Albright's allegation and the conclusion that the new assessment had reversed the intelligence conclusion that Iran had ceased work related to weaponisation.

In creating that false narrative, journalists have evidently been guided by personal convictions on the issue that are aligned with certain U.S., European and Israeli officials who have been pressuring the Barack Obama administration to reject the 2007 estimate.

For the Israelis and for some U.S. officials, reversing the conclusion that Iran is not actively pursuing weaponisation is considered a precondition for manoeuvring U.S. policy into a military confrontation with Iran.

Gareth Porter is an investigative historian and journalist with Inter-Press Service specialising in U.S. national security policy. The paperback edition of his latest book, "Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam", was published in 2006.

http://www.counterpunch.org/porter07202010.html

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Amiri Told CIA Iran Has No Nuclear Bomb Programme


Analysis by Gareth Porter

WASHINGTON, 19 Jul (IPS) - Contrary to a news media narrative that Iranian scientist Shahram Amiri has provided intelligence on covert Iranian nuclear weapons work, CIA sources familiar with the Amiri case say he told his CIA handlers that there is no such Iranian nuclear weapons programme, according to a former CIA officer.

Philip Giraldi, a former CIA counterterrorism official, told IPS that his sources are CIA officials with direct knowledge of the entire Amiri operation.

The CIA contacts say that Amiri had been reporting to the CIA for some time before being brought to the U.S. during Hajj last year, Giraldi told IPS, initially using satellite-based communication. But the contacts also say Amiri was a radiation safety specialist who was "absolutely peripheral" to Iran's nuclear programme, according to Giraldi.

Amiri provided "almost no information" about Iran's nuclear programme, said Giraldi, but had picked up "scuttlebutt" from other nuclear scientists with whom he was acquainted that the Iranians have no active nuclear weapon programme.

Giraldi said information from Amiri's debriefings was only a minor contribution to the intelligence community's reaffirmation in the latest assessment of Iran's nuclear programme of the 2007 National Intelligence Estimate (NIE)'s finding that work on a nuclear weapon has not been resumed after being halted in 2003.

Amiri's confirmation is cited in one or more footnotes to the new intelligence assessment of Iran's nuclear programme, called a "Memorandum to Holders", according to Giraldi, but it is now being reviewed, in light of Amiri's "re- defection" to Iran.

An intelligence source who has read the "Memorandum to Holders" in draft form confirmed to IPS that it presents no clear-cut departure from the 2007 NIE on the question of weaponisation. The developments in the Iranian nuclear programme since the 2007 judgment are portrayed as "subtle and complex", said the source.

CIA officials are doing their best to "burn" Amiri by characterising him as a valuable long-term intelligence asset, according to Giraldi, in part in order to sow as much distrust of him among Iranian intelligence officials as possible.

But Giraldi said it is "largely a defence mechanism" to ward off criticism of the agency for its handling of the Amiri case.

"The fact is he wasn't well vetted," said Giraldi, adding that Amiri was a "walk- in" about whom virtually nothing was known except his job.

Although an investigation has begun within the CIA of the procedures used in the case, Giraldi said, Amiri's erstwhile CIA handlers still do not believe he was a double agent or "dangle".

What convinced CIA officers of Amiri's sincerity, according to Giraldi, was Amiri's admission that he had no direct knowledge of the Iranian nuclear programme.

A "dangle" would normally be prepared with some important intelligence that the U.S. is known to value.

Amiri's extremely marginal status in relation to the Iranian nuclear programme was acknowledged by an unnamed U.S. official who told The New York Times and Associated Press Friday that Amiri was indeed a "low-level scientist", but that the CIA had hoped to use him to get to more highly placed Iranian officials.

Giraldi's revelations about Amiri's reporting debunks a media narrative in which Amiri provided some of the key evidence for a reversal by the intelligence community of its 2007 conclusion that Iran had not resumed work on nuclear weapons.

An Apr. 25 story by Washington Post reporters Joby Warrick and Greg Miller said the long-awaited reassessment of the Iranian nuclear programme had been delayed in order to incorporate a "new flow of intelligence" coming from "informants, including scientists with access to Iran's military programs&."

They quote Director of National Intelligence Dennis C. Blair as explaining in an interview that the delay was because of "information coming in and the pace of developments".

Warrick and Miller reported that Amiri had "provided spy agencies with details about sensitive programs including a long-hidden uranium-enrichment plant near the city of Qom." Their sources were said to be "current and former officials in the United States and Europe".

Warrick and Miller could not get CIA officials to discuss Amiri. Instead they quoted the National Council of Resistance in Iran (NCRI) as saying that Amiri "has been associated with sensitive nuclear programs for at least a decade".

NCRI is the political arm of Mujahideen-e-Khalq (MEK), the anti-regime Iranian terrorist organization which has been a conduit for Israeli intelligence on the Iranian nuclear programme.

On Jun. 8, David E. Sanger of the New York Times cited "foreign diplomats and some American officials" as sources in reporting that a series of intelligence briefings for members of the U.N. Security Council last spring amounted to "a tacit admission by the United States that it is gradually backing away" from the 2007 NIE. Sanger referred to "new evidence" that allegedly led analysts to "revise and in some cases reverse" that estimate's conclusion that Iran was no longer working on a nuclear weapon.

Sanger cited "Western officials" as confirming that Amiri was providing some of the new information.

Three days later, the Washington Post ran another story quoting David Albright, director of the Institute for Science and International Security, as saying that the intelligence briefings for Security Council members had included "information about nuclear weaponisation" obtained from Amiri.

Albright said he had been briefed on the intelligence earlier that week, and the Post reported a "U.S. official" had confirmed Albright's account.

Subsequently, ABC News reported that Amiri's evidence had "helped to contradict" the 2007 NIE, and McClatchy Newspapers repeated Albright's allegation and the conclusion that the new assessment had reversed the intelligence conclusion that Iran had ceased work related to weaponisation.

In creating that false narrative, journalists have evidently been guided by personal convictions on the issue that are aligned with certain U.S., European and Israeli officials who have been pressuring the Barack Obama administration to reject the 2007 estimate.

For the Israelis and for some U.S. officials, reversing the conclusion that Iran is not actively pursuing weaponisation is considered a precondition for manoeuvring U.S. policy into a military confrontation with Iran.

*Gareth Porter is an investigative historian and journalist specialising in U.S. national security policy. The paperback edition of his latest book, "Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam", was published in 2006.

http://ipsnorthamerica.net/news.php?idnews=3201

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Did anybody noticed his eyes movement before answering questions? He looks at right and down (Left and down from audiences' view point). It means that he uses his left brain to answer the question. He is not telling the whole truth. of course it depends if he is a right handed person or left handed person. If we assume he is a right handed person then it is a good possibility that  he is not telling the whole truth. for more information about this please see or read Richard Bandler and John Grinder "Frogs into Princes: Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP) "
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My mum thinks he is a spy also lol. She reckons he will be assasinated sooner or later.

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It may sound a little crazy to some of our members. But I beleive that he should be scanned and X-rayed from head to toes and looked for unusual micro scars in his body.

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A 17 episode documentary by Al Manar titled 'If Hizbollah Was Defeated...'

This doc takes a very academic and scientific approach to Hizbollah's military tactics, strategy, school of thought etc.

A MUST WATCH for Military Enthusiast

http://www.iranmilitaryforum.net/cinema-and-entertainment/dedicated-hezballah-video-thread/msg213452/#msg213452



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well if he is a spy or not we all can bet that this guy can't fart without the Iranian government knowing about it, I personally think he is an american spy
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You are absolutely right. Our enemies are poker players while our government is a chess player. You cannot play chess with poker player mentality. It is what I call it a good strategy. I absolutely agree with you. There are some other aspect of our foreign policies that I am extremely impressed by our government.  

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It is also a good possibility. When we look at the whole situation we realize that there exist may possibilities that one should patiently examine every and each of them.


Jonk89, it seems over the past decade, IRI strategist have taken a highly effective game theoretic approach to foreign policy especially with respect to the nuclear program.  Much more so, it seems, than their adversaries.  I have mentioned this several times and continue to be impressed by their manuevers and counter-manuevers.  It seems apparent the IRI has thought this through several iterations ahead and already has packaged responses ready.

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Not entirely reliable but certainly plausible reports are coming out describing a THIRD scenario for Amiri's case:  He was a double agent planted by Iranian Intelligence.  This explains many of the paradoxes I described before.

Example source: http://www.****.***/news/10/jul/1140.html

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It is also a good possibility. When we look at the whole situation we realize that there exist may possibilities that one should patiently examine every and each of them.

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For those who interested to learn a little about game theory and the related mathematical modeling please check this website. Game theory and related mathematics are extremely complex but this website would be a good start.

http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//schools/game.htm

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It is possible, I said possible that all three videos were made by CIA. When you understand the mathematical modeling which can be used in "Game Theory" of espionage it creates other possibilities. I myself don't like to think he was a spy but who knows!

Not entirely reliable but certainly plausible reports are coming out describing a THIRD scenario for Amiri's case:  He was a double agent planted by Iranian Intelligence.  This explains many of the paradoxes I described before.

Example source: http://www.****.***/news/10/jul/1140.html

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He does have family (children, wife, mother, sister, etc).  However, having family hasn't stopped other defectors from defecting.  I'm not sure if that is a dominating criterion although I would assume it is important.  So maybe we can break it down like this:


- He was kidnapped:  If so, it doesn't make sense he was released.  It is also  implausible he escaped.
- He defected: Then it doesn't make sense why he headed back to the Interests Section. Unless he was threatened harm to his family.  According to reports he was studying in the US to get his PhD for the past year.  Even under these circmstances I find it hard to believe US Intelligence just simply let him go even if he didn't have anything of value.

Both situations present paradoxes although the defection scenario still rings a little truer to me.  This doesn't make sense at all.

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It is possible, I said possible that all three videos were made by CIA. When you understand the mathematical modeling which can be used in "Game Theory" of espionage it creates other possibilities. I myself don't like to think he was a spy but who knows!

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 I feel the same way. fifty million is hard to turn down. It is how the most of us feel. We all are brothers and sisters but there are always some bad apples in the bunch.
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With a little information I have about him by reading different reports both by Americans and our government and  his family situation I doubt that he was going to defect. Due to our culture we do have a very tight family relationship. Our culture is not an individualistic culture as it is in west. We practice collectivism. Of course I am not saying that everyone in our country is the same but very high percentage of our population do practice collectivism and care at least about their immediate family. But who knows, I may be wrong. 
50 million is hard to turn down, but yes I see your point and its very strong one!
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With a little information I have about him by reading different reports both by Americans and our government and  his family situation I doubt that he was going to defect. Due to our culture we do have a very tight family relationship. Our culture is not an individualistic culture as it is in west. We practice collectivism. Of course I am not saying that everyone in our country is the same but very high percentage of our population do practice collectivism and care at least about their immediate family. But who knows, I may be wrong.  
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You do not know Iranians, when they refuse to take that kind of money for a lie, they will not turn into spies.

All CIA wanted from him to say was that he owns the laptop with false information about Iran's nuclear program and he could have 10 million dollar. No American will turn down this much money for telling a lie. That's why all Americans say that he should be a double agent.

He was not working with Nuclear Research program to begin with and he will not have access to the program now either, so I guarantee the story has happy ending and he will live with his family for a long time.

I am only worried about his health and Iran should check him for unusual viral and bacterial deceases every month, you never know about new biological weapons that US experiment with.



99.9% of Iranians would take that bribe, hes lying 100%. If they offered him that he would of taken it.

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He probably works for the C.I.A now.

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