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Some things should remain a secret like Qud's force.  Iranian special forces are the best units that Iran have. The photos that I seem though the years show a professional force
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Iran Army 65th Airborne SF Parachuters پرش چتربازان ارتش عقابان تيپ 65

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What is a significant of this jump? I am sorry but I do not get it.

I have no experience in parachuting but looking at the terrain the jump seems to be from 1500 ft or so. I see a valley under the bridge and as such unexpected air flow through the valley. So, it must be a difficult task to land exactly at the marked location having very little room and time to maneuver. As one can see, the men keep taking wind measurement to the last second before each jump. Then they jump and try to arrive at marked location by first passing it and then turn into wind to control the chute better to land. But, the wind flow is not as predictable near the valley floor so that is where the challenge is for these experienced commandos. It is all an exercise!

This is my two cents.


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In related news:

http://www.farsnews.com/imgrep.php?nn=13900703000417


Interesting.  An army unit practicing hostage release--i'm assuming this is military related hostage taking rather than a civilian affair where NAJA seems to have SWAT as well. 

Thoughts?

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I've heard that the 65th brigade has a specific sub-unit that specializes in hostage-taking/hijacking operations (Rahani-e gerogan). I would suspect that this is what's being depicted in these exercises.

 This is supposed to be their patch:

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I've heard that the 65th brigade has a specific sub-unit that specializes in hostage-taking/hijacking operations (Rahani-e gerogan). I would suspect that this is what's being depicted in these exercises.

Ayyash,

"Hostage-taking"? The patch states "Hostage freedom", nothing about hostage taking as you referred!


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Ayyash,

"Hostage-taking"? The patch states "Hostage freedom", nothing about hostage taking as you referred!


Catsoo
I should have been more specific, I meant "counter-hostage/hijacking operations.

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This isn't specifically the 65th airborne, but it's worth posting here anyway.

IRGC airborne training
http://www.farsnews.com/imgrep.php?nn=13900704000529

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I've heard that the 65th brigade has a specific sub-unit that specializes in hostage-taking/hijacking operations (Rahani-e gerogan). I would suspect that this is what's being depicted in these exercises.

 This is supposed to be their patch:


Ayyash-jan, perhaps it was a typo, but just in case, the patch spells 'raha'i-yeh gerogan' or strictly 'raha'i gerogan'.  I recall you said you were working on your Farsi.

Mamdali
Last Edit: September 26, 2011, 03:25:52 PM by mamdali

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Thanks Mamdali, I've always been a bit haphazard with my transliterations.

I actually got thanks to member "Oliver" who helped me considerably with the order of battle and identification patches:
http://www.iranmilitaryforum.net/index.php?topic=842.75

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Ayyash khan,

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In related news:

http://www.farsnews.com/imgrep.php?nn=13900703000417



This is exactly what I posted earlier. Perhaps this is called "recycling a post"?

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Ayyash khan,


This is exactly what I posted earlier. Perhaps this is called "recycling a post"?
My apologies, I must have missed your post the first time through.

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Iranian Army Special Airborne Forces Base Jumping (The video's owner prevents external embedding)

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نیروهای واکنش سریع ارتش ایران را می شناسید؟

نظامی - فرمانده تیپ 65 نیرو مخصوص نوهد گفت: آموزش نیروهای مخصوص و واکنش سریع ایران کاملا به روز است.

سرهنگ خسرو خسروی افزود: با عنایتی که فرمانده کل ارتش و فرمانده نیروی زمینی به نیروهای تیپ 65 نیرو مخصوص نوهد داشته و دارند این نیرو توانسته آموزشهای خود را کاملا به روز کند.
در ادامه گزیده ای از گفت و گوی فرمانده تیپ 65 نیرو مخصوص نوهد با ایرنا می آید:

    در جنگهای امروزی نیروهای واکنش سریع و عملیات سریع یک ضرورت محسوب می شود. در تیپ 65 نیروهای مخصوص تیم های ویژه از جمله تیم غواص و سقوط آزاد حضور دارند. همه نفرات در بدو ورود به این تیپ اعم از افسر و درجه دار، باید یک رشته تخصصی کامل را طی کنند بدین معنی که در یک تیم 12 نفره از مهندسی رزمی تا پزشکیار، باید اکثر کارهای نیروی مخصوص اعم از غواصی، چتربازی و جنگ در شرایط نامتعارف را فرا بگیرد تا در زمانی که یکی از نفرات دچار حادثه شد، حتی پزشکیار تیم هم بتواند کارهای دیگران را انجام دهد.

    در جنگهای امروزی لازم است که تمامی نفرات تیم های نیروهای مخصوص برای پیشبرد اهداف نظامی حتما تخصصهای لازم را داشته باشند و به صورت حرفه ای بتوانند عمل کنند.

    توانسته ایم با امکانات موجود آموزشهای لازم را به روز کنیم و حتی سلاحهایی را که جهادهای خودکفایی طراحی و تولید می کنند نیز برای نخستین بار در این تیپ آزمایش کنیم .

    تیپ 65 نیروی مخصوص نوهد نیروی زمینی ارتش تا به امروز توانسته است با استفاده از علوم نوین روز و با تلاشی که در جهاد خودکفایی ارتش و صنایع دفاعی کشور صورت گرفته در انجام وظایف خود با موفقیت عمل کند و به پیش رود.

    نیروهای این تیپ در رزمایشهای اخیر جعفر طیار یک و دو، آموزشهای نوینی را که فرا گرفته بودند از جمله پرش از بالگرد و فرود موفقیت آمیز در منطقه ای که از پیش شناسایی نشده بود را با موفقیت به اجرا گذاشتند.

    جابجایی نیروهای مخصوص در طی 24 ساعت و یا کمتر از آن از جمله توانایی های بیشمار این نیروها به شمار می رود. امروز به این توانمندی دست یافته ایم که در مدت زمان اندک نیروهای خود را از جنوبی ترین نقطه کشور به شمالی ترین نقطه و برعکس و یا از مرکز به سایر نقاط کشورمان حرکت داده و آنها را درعملیات های احتمالی شرکت دهیم.

    نیروهای تیپ 65 نیروی مخصوص نوهد درطول سال علاوه بر آموزشهای تئوری که در محل پادگان ها طی می کنند، آموزش های ویژه ای را نیز از جمله زندگی در کویر، جنگل و کوهستان و در زمستانها در شرایط برفی تمرین می کنند و به همین علت از توانایی و آمادگی رزمی بالایی نیز برخوردار هستند.

    نیروهای مخصوص و واکنش سریع تیپ 65 نیروی مخصوص نوهد در دوران دفاع مقدس به ویژه آزاد سازی خرمشهر نقش فعالی داشتند.تیپ 65 نیروی مخصوص نوهد در زمان فتح خرمشهر با عنوان تیپ 23 نیرو مخصوص (نوهد) نقش فعالی ایفا کرد.
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In Armenian, "takavor" means "king."

Is this just a coincidence?
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Tak in old Persian means "attack" In fact the very term "attack" is driven from the Persian military term "Tak".  "Avar" is from the verb "Avardan" meaning to bring. So Takavar would literary mean "one who attacks"!


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Tak in old Persian means "attack" In fact the very term "attack" is driven from the Persian military term "Tak".  "Avar" is from the verb "Avardan" meaning to bring. So Takavar would literary mean "one who attacks"!


Catsoo

That is the case it seems unless there is some freaky coincidence. We've had this discussion before.   Anyway, to add to this, 'pa'-tak mean 'counter'-attack. So 'tak va pa-tak' means attack and counter attack.

Mamdali
Last Edit: June 15, 2012, 03:42:35 PM by mamdali

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I always was under impression that TAK meant  alone or single or one and TAKAVAR meant a single warrior who will go against superior force or can engage them or equal them and by that meant highly trained soldier.
Other use of TAK is like TAK TIR or TAK va TANHA or TAK khal.

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That is the case it seems unless there is some freaky coincidence. We've had this discussion before.   Anyway, to add to this, 'pa'-tak mean 'counter'-attack. So 'tak va pa-tak' means attack and counter attack.

Mamdali

Mamdali jan, I believe that should be "paad-tak". Paad means anti or counter. Same formulation is used in Zahr and Paad-zahr (venom and anti-venom), Aafand and Pad-Aafand (offence and anti-offence = air defence). Though the latter is pronounced with a short 'a' sound.

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I always was under impression that TAK meant  alone or single or one and TAKAVAR meant a single warrior who will go against superior force or can engage them or equal them and by that meant highly trained soldier.
Other use of TAK is like TAK TIR or TAK va TANHA or TAK khal.

I thought the same thing! But Catsoo's explanation makes a lot more sense. Tak also means Lone in Persian. But "Lone bringer" doesn't signify much. However, "attack bringer" does. 

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you are right PAAD means anti, in PAAD TAK it means zed e nafar or anti personnel.

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