Author Topic: iran sacred defence week 2011 (Read 6301 times)

stormbringa · « **Reply #50 on:** September 23, 2011, 07:03:15 AM »

No, it is not Musudan. It is Shahab 3B/Ghadr-1/110.

This is Musudan:

Quote from: stefano84 on September 22, 2011, 02:47:25 PM

IS THIS THE KOREAN MUSUDAN?

Ayyash · « **Reply #51 on:** September 23, 2011, 07:35:57 AM »

Figures Iran holds a major military parade on the day I have to spend all day driving. Anyways, observations:

This really the first time we've seen the AT-4/5 deployed in a non-mechanized role (i.e. mounted on BMP-2s). There was a video floating around showing a team setting up and firing one, but they're wearing tankers overalls so one could assume that the BMP-2 was nearby in this instance.

More UN troops with blue berets?

The ongoing process of standardising desert-safariflage pattern within the Artesh appears to be continuing.

I thought the 122 mm rocket launcher mounted on the back of a Land Cruiser was possibly a one-off defence project but it seems to be in use in IRGC mechanized/armoured units along with Boraghs. The photos from Mehr news of the Kerman shows the composition of the local armored unit, T-72s, T-55s, Boragh-APC, Boragh mortar carrier, boragh air-defence, M113 as well as the M577

Rather interesting new HSPB from the IRGC with 12.7 mm machine guns mounted in both the bow and stern.

No Zulfiqar

M-ATF · « **Reply #52 on:** September 23, 2011, 08:11:03 AM »

Quote from: stormbringa on September 23, 2011, 07:03:15 AM

No, it is not Musudan. It is Shahab 3B/Ghadr-1/110.

No, it is Sejil

stormbringa · « **Reply #53 on:** September 23, 2011, 10:11:06 AM »

Quote from: M-ATF on September 23, 2011, 08:11:03 AM

No, it is Sejil

No, it's a Shahab. Sejjil has bumps on its body where stages separate, and both Shahab and Sejjil share the same warhead shape:

I don't see any bumps here:

ban ki moon · « **Reply #54 on:** September 23, 2011, 02:22:36 PM »

Can anybody say what missile are in this pic:
http://isna.ir/ISNA/PicView.aspx?Pic=Pic-1853076-7&Lang=P

if this is a qader its substaintially bigger than when it first showed up with the Noor?!

stormbringa · « **Reply #55 on:** September 23, 2011, 02:24:26 PM »

It is a Sejjil. My bad, M-ATF, you were right.

stormbringa · « **Reply #56 on:** September 23, 2011, 02:29:12 PM »

check the arrow, there is a bump.

Chacko-T · « **Reply #57 on:** September 23, 2011, 02:30:56 PM »

Catsoo · « **Reply #58 on:** September 23, 2011, 02:38:20 PM »

In a rough scaling from the photos, it seems Sejil is longer than Shahab III !

Catsoo

Chacko-T · « **Reply #59 on:** September 23, 2011, 03:56:51 PM »

We have very few photos, this pics cover about 10% of the parade...

ban ki moon · « **Reply #60 on:** September 23, 2011, 05:33:10 PM »

Can anybody say what missile are in this pic:
http://isna.ir/ISNA/PicView.aspx?Pic=Pic-1853076-7&Lang=P

if this is a qader its substaintially bigger than when it first showed up with the Noor?!

Eagle2009 · « **Reply #61 on:** September 23, 2011, 06:16:20 PM »

Catsoo,

Not sure why that surprises you, I was always under the impression the Sejil was longer, most estimate it to be roughly 18 meters long compared to the 15-17 of the Shahab 3 (depending on variant).

ban ki moon,

Guess I don't understand what exactly your asking about. In that image we seen a Noor or a Qadr (only visible difference between the two is a slight length difference), a Nasr (C-704) and a Kosar missiles respectively. Nothing unusual in the image I can see.

Catsoo · « **Reply #62 on:** September 23, 2011, 06:18:03 PM »

Eagle,

Well, assumptions are one thing facts are another!

Catsoo

ban ki moon · « **Reply #63 on:** September 23, 2011, 06:19:38 PM »

I meant the biggest of all I thought its a Qader and the one just next to it is a Noor, but if its a Nasr it seems logical.

Aspahbod · « **Reply #64 on:** September 23, 2011, 06:34:56 PM »

Don't Nasr's wings look bigger than before? Their width is twice the diameter of the missile itself (Or it seems so).

ahriman46 · « **Reply #65 on:** September 23, 2011, 08:13:59 PM »

Pyruz · « **Reply #66 on:** September 23, 2011, 08:28:56 PM »

Quote from: mamdali on September 23, 2011, 02:19:07 AM

As far as I know Iran has been one of the main Volvo truck manufacturers for decades:

http://www.volvotrucks.com/trucks/iran-market/en-ir/aboutus/volvo_in_Iran/pages/volvoiniran.aspx

Mamdali

Right, but these appear to be imported mid-00's Volvo FH12-420 truck tractor heads. I think they may have been imported before the latest U.S. sanction pressures against EU manufacturers. Then again, maybe Volvo has resisted such pressure. I honestly don't know. But this is the first time I've seen these trucks applied to Iranian military service. They're spiffy.

No thoughts on the identity of those ethnic Basij pics I inquired about? Anybody?

Ayyash · « **Reply #67 on:** September 23, 2011, 08:30:51 PM »

Quote from: ahriman46 on September 23, 2011, 08:13:59 PM

??

Pugil sticks, they're used for hand-to-hand combat training.

Pyruz · « **Reply #68 on:** September 23, 2011, 08:33:59 PM »

Quote from: Ayyash on September 23, 2011, 08:30:51 PM

Pugil sticks, they're used for hand-to-hand combat training.

My nephew is pretty handy with those. For a little guy, he did well at USMC bootcamp a few years ago. Even made squad leader.

mamdali · « **Reply #69 on:** September 23, 2011, 08:38:51 PM »

Quote from: Pyruz on September 23, 2011, 08:28:56 PM

Right, but these appear to be imported mid-00's Volvo FH12-420 truck tractor heads. I think they may have been imported before the latest U.S. sanction pressures against EU manufacturers. Then again, maybe Volvo has resisted such pressure. I honestly don't know. But this is the first time I've seen these trucks applied to Iranian military service. They're spiffy.

No thoughts on the identity of those ethnic Basij pics I inquired about? Anybody?

??. Did you read the link? It's current and expliclty refers to 2006 models ('mid-00's) as well. Not sure what you're missing.

Mamdali

Ayyash · « **Reply #70 on:** September 23, 2011, 09:47:50 PM »

Quote from: Pyruz on September 23, 2011, 08:33:59 PM

My nephew is pretty handy with those. For a little guy, he did well at USMC bootcamp a few years ago. Even made squad leader.

I like to imagine the Iranian military models their training off of horrible '80s TV-programs instead


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mamdali · « **Reply #71 on:** September 23, 2011, 10:11:49 PM »

Quote from: Ayyash on September 23, 2011, 09:47:50 PM

I like to imagine the Iranian military models their training off of horrible '80s TV-programs instead

I'm really surprised how long ago this was. 1989-1996 to be exact. It literally seems like yesterday-although there is a 2008 remake.

Mamdali

Pyruz · « **Reply #72 on:** September 23, 2011, 11:39:00 PM »

Quote from: mamdali on September 23, 2011, 08:38:51 PM

??. Did you read the link? It's current and expliclty refers to 2006 models ('mid-00's) as well. Not sure what you're missing.

Mamdali

I missed the link. Thanks for your help.

PERSPOLIS · « **Reply #73 on:** September 23, 2011, 11:52:06 PM »

i found this picture but i have no clue

PERSPOLIS · « **Reply #74 on:** September 23, 2011, 11:56:17 PM »