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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #75 on: December 10, 2009, 08:04:55 AM »
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The Arkenstone - Zulfiqar Dimensions Redux (May 10, 2013)

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #76 on: December 10, 2009, 08:19:41 AM »
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You are great!!!!

1 and 3: tofangdar-e dariai (marine's)
2: havabord (airborne)
4: it is the first time i see this kind of patch

Please more!!! :D


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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #77 on: December 10, 2009, 05:05:10 PM »
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You are great!!!!

Please more!!! :D


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So i decided to check out ebay, and i found LOADS of patches available for sale, i ended up buying an IRGC beret with pin.

Anyway, i also found these, according to the description the page:

1) Para - 1 Star
2) Para - 2 Star
3) Para - 3 Star
4) Parachute - 1 Star
5) Parachute - 3 star
6) Freefall Para - 1 Star
7) Havabord
8) Anti-hijacking/terrorism
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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #78 on: December 10, 2009, 05:12:52 PM »
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Continuing...

1) Pasdaran Airborne
2) Pasdaran Marine Commandos
3) Not, a patch, but i thought it was interesting, Pasdaran dog-tags.
4) Navy - Deep Sea Diving - 1 Star
5) Navy - Deep Sea Diving - 2 Star
6) Navy - Deep Sea Diving - 3 Star
7) Navy - Deep Sea Diving Patch
8) Navy - Marines Collar Patch
9) Navy - Marines (not sure how this compares to the generic service patch we've talked about before)

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #79 on: December 10, 2009, 09:22:47 PM »
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Moving on to the air force

1)IRIAA Patch
2)IRIAF - Boeing
3)IRIAF - C-130
4)IRIAF - Mig-29
5)IRIAF - PC-7
6)IRIAF - Unknown

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #80 on: December 10, 2009, 10:10:46 PM »
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Ayyash....you're great!! Merci beaucoup!!!!



1) Para - 1 Star
2) Para - 2 Star
3) Para - 3 Star
4) Parachute - 1 Star
5) Parachute - 3 star
6) Freefall Para - 1 Star
7) Havabord
8) Anti-hijacking/terrorism

8) Tip-e 65 Nohed .Rahani-e gerogan= 65th brigade _ hostage's liberation

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #81 on: December 10, 2009, 10:51:30 PM »
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Continuing...

1) Pasdaran Airborne
2) Pasdaran Marine Commandos
3) Not, a patch, but i thought it was interesting, Pasdaran dog-tags.


1)Goruhan-e amaliat-e vije havabord: special operations airborne company
2) amaliat-e vije: special operations
3) niru-ha-ye moqhavemat-e bassij: bassij resistance's forces

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #82 on: December 10, 2009, 10:57:51 PM »
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Continuing...
7) Navy - Deep Sea Diving Patch


ghavas- Na-Da-Ja (Niru-ye Dariai-e Jomhuri-e eslami) = diver ( navy of islamic republic)

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #83 on: December 11, 2009, 04:37:49 PM »
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One more update, this time from an interesting source, it's from the open letter written by the Artesh directed toward the IRGC. Assuming the translation is correct, the 33rd Artillery division is based out of Isfahan.

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #84 on: December 11, 2009, 05:09:58 PM »
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Hello,

In Iran, about Artillery the word used is group ( = 3 artillery batalions)...no division.

For me the 33th artillery group is based next to teheran.

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #85 on: December 11, 2009, 05:12:34 PM »
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Hello,

In Iran, about Artillery the word used is group ( = 3 artillery batalions)...no division.

For me the 33th artillery group is based next to teheran.

Olivier

This might be evidence then that the letter in question (i don't know if you've heard about it yet) is a hoax. Or maybe the translation is just off.

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #86 on: December 11, 2009, 08:42:58 PM »
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What are the differences between the ranger and the commando course in the iranian armed forces?

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #87 on: December 12, 2009, 09:37:30 AM »
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I did a preliminary list of the new IRGC brigades/divisions after the 2008 restructuring that resulted in 32 provincial IRGC brigades, one per province, with two in Tehran

Notes:
List is in no particuler order
"Commander" is generic title for when actual rank is unknown
As is "corps", everything is most-likely brigade sized though
Lastly, when i say a unit was formerly something, its only "most likely" true with no actual guarentee



Fajr Corps
Fars Province
Commander Gholam-Hossein Gheib-Parvar

Salman Corps
Zahedan in the Sistan-Baluchistan Province
commanded by Mohammad Zadeh until his assassination in fall of 2009.

Kermanshah Province Corps
Commander Mohammad Nazar Azimi
Formerly 4th Be’sat Infantry (most likely)

Ansar Al-Hossein Corps
Hamedan Province
Commander Abdolreda Azadi

Fath Corps
Kohkiluyeh & Boyer Ahmadi Province
Commander Shahabifar

Qamar Bani Hashem Corps
Chaharmahal and Bakhtiari Province
Commander Raza Mohammad-Soleymani

Mohammad Rasulollah Corps
Greater Tehran
Commander: Abdollah Aqaqi

Seyyed al-Shohada Corps
Tehran Province
Commander Ali Fazli

Vali-ye Asr Corps
Khuzestan Province
Commander Mohammad Kazemeyni
Formerly 7th Vali-ye Asr


Saheb al-Zaman Corps
Esfahan Province
Commander Gholamreza Soleymani
Formerly 14th Imam Hossein

Sarallah Corps
Kerman Province
Commander: Ruhollah Nuri
Deputy Commander Gholam-Ali Abu Hamzeh
Formerly 41st Sarallah

Saheb al-Amr Corp
Qazvin Province
Commander Salar Abnush

Hazrat-e Abbas Brigade
Ardebil Prov
Col. Jalil Baba-Zadeh

Shohada Brigade
West Azerbaijan Prov
Brig General Mehdi Mo’ini

Imam Sadegh Brigade
Bushehr Prov
Col Fath-Allah Jamiri

Al Ghadir Brigade
Yazd Prov

Neynava Brigade
Golestan Province
Brig General Naser Razaghian
Formerly 25th Karbala

Imam Sajjad
Hormozgan Province

Amir al-emenin
Ilam Province
Brig General Seyyed Sadeq Kaki

Ashura Corps
East Azarbayan Province
Commander Mohammad Taqi Osanlu
Armored Division (prev 31st)

Qods Corps
Gilan Province
Commander Hamun Mohammadi

His Holiness Abolfazl Corps
Lorestan Province
Commander Mohammad Shahrokhi

Javad al-A’emeh Corps
North Khorasan Province
Commander Ali Mirza-Pour

Imam al-Reza Corps
Razavi Khorasan Province
Commander Ghodrat-Allah Mansouril

Ansar al-Reza Corps
South Khorasan Prov
Brig General Gholam-Reza Ahmadi

Beit al-Moghaddas Corps
Kordestan Prov
Commander Allah-Nour Nour Allahi

Abol-Fazl al Abbas Corps
Lorestan Prov
Commander Shahrok
Fmrly Independent 57th Hazrat-e Abolfazl BDE

Rouh-Allah Corps
Markazi Prov
Commander Mohammad Taghi Shah-Cheraghi

Karbala Corps
Mazandaran Prov
Brig general Ali Shalikar
Fmrly 25th Karbala div

There were also a number of brigades "left over" so to speak that were mentioned but brought the number above 32

Al-Ghadir
Yaz
Brig General Mohammad-Ali Allab Dadi

Saheb al-Amr
Qazvin
Brig General Salar Abnoush
Fmrly 12th Hazrat-e Qa’em BDE Chief (possibly)

Neynava Brigade
Semnan

Ruhollah Corps
"Central Province" (whatever that means)
Commander Mohammad Taqi Shahcheraghi





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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #88 on: December 12, 2009, 12:23:09 PM »
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I did a preliminary list of the new IRGC brigades/divisions after the 2008 restructuring that resulted in 32 provincial IRGC brigades, one per province, with two in Tehran




For more informations about the new structures of IRGC: IRANIAN WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION DOCTRINE,POLICY AND COMMAND by CSIS (available on PDF)

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #89 on: December 12, 2009, 01:18:28 PM »
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For more informations about the new structures of IRGC: IRANIAN WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION DOCTRINE,POLICY AND COMMAND by CSIS (available on PDF)

Olivier

Thanks
One of the main sources i was using was another book, by the same author, who used the same table i was using about the organization.

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #90 on: December 12, 2009, 02:03:12 PM »
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Other pictures??

 :D

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #91 on: December 12, 2009, 02:24:08 PM »
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Other pictures??

 :D

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Not yet, i'm downloading a bunch of albums from Fars though, i'm working from 2004 forward so i should have some good material

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #92 on: December 12, 2009, 07:15:25 PM »
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Other pictures??

 :D

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Alright more, theres another commando brigade in Zahedan, they look almost identicle to the 58th division though so its really hard to tell the difference.

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #93 on: December 13, 2009, 11:20:31 AM »
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I also did this write up.

58th Commando Infantry Division
Based out of Dezful, the troops of this division wear the duck hunter camo similar to AUSCAM, and are immediately identifiable by it. Armour is not apparent beyond the simple steel helmet most often covered by a camouflaged cover and less often, netting. Support weaponry at the squad level is the MG-3 and RPG, with the exception of the ranger brigade using the PKM. The individual rifle is the AK-47, though very rarely a unit has been seen with a G3 bearing the distinctive qualities of this division.
The 58th is highly mechanized making extensive use of the BTR-60’s in Iranian service. The same holds true for, trucks, jeeps and motor cycles, the latter often deployed from helicopters. BMP-2’s may be deployed also, however it is unclear whether this is the case, or if the 58th was simply acting in close support of the 92nd Armoured Division.
We know that the 2nd brigade of this division has the following composition:
- 3 Infantry commando battalions
- 1 Air defence battalion
- 1 Artillery battalion
- 1 Instruction battalion
Another fact we know is that Iranian divisions tend to be ‘light’ in the sense that they’re usually smaller then their western equivalents. Given this, we can extrapolate this data to the rest of the division, and it is likely that the rest of division looks something like this:
- 9 Infantry commando battalions
- 3 Air defence battalion
- 3 Artillery battalion
- 3 Instruction battalion

28th and 64th Infantry Divisions
Based in the Kermanshah province and Tabriz respectively. Very little information is available at this time. The only possible hint came during Sacred Defence Week 2008, when a parade took place in the greater “Tabriz-Zanjan-Hamedan” area. This means that troops visible could have come from either the 28th or 64th, or even the local garrisons. However the troops that were the average soldiers in the Army, wearing woodland BDU’s, and carrying G3 rifles, and rode in jeeps with recoilless rifles, in other words no distinguishing features whatsoever.

30th Infantry Division
Based out of Gorgan. Like the 28th and 54th, not a lot of information on these troops are available, primarily because they’ve never been glimpsed in exercises. However, there are more definitive pictures of them on parade, albeit if only be a little. From what is available however, we can tell that they use the newer Safir’s rather then the older Jeeps. Artillery support is given by M-46 towed gun.

77th Infantry Division
Based near Mashhad, the 77th is your generic infantry within the army, wearing woodland fatigues and carrying G3 rifles, however they can be identified to an extend because they commonly wear orange neck scarves on parade. This division also has a number of M-47 tanks to act as support, the exact number is not known, but i estimate it to be around 20 or 30.

23rd Commando Division
Based out of Tehran, they are perhaps one of the most elite organizations in the Artesh, they are also one of the more elusive, and they are rarely ever seen except for on parade a few times per year. This division is almost entirely volunteers, with no conscripts ensuring a high degree of professionalism. They are identifiable by their top-notch equipment by Artesh standards, notably, desert dominant safariflage, body armour, Kevlar helmets, and newly manufactured G3 rifles. They do have a distinctive patch on the upper right arm, though unfortunately it is never visible enough to give proper identification, it is possible there is a parachute on the patch indicating that they are an airborne division, but at this point, due to the image quality, that is no more then a stab in the dark. Equipment wise, as mentioned above they are never without full body armor, as well as collapsible stock G3 rifles. As far as support weaponry goes it is most commonly RPG’s and PKM at the squad level. Use of motor bikes is the only proven vehicle use as of yet

55th Airborne Brigade:
The 55th airborne brigade is based out of Shiraz. Identifiable via the duck hunter camo, a black beret and two distinctive patches on the right upper arm, visible below. They are occasionally visible wearing body armour. They are armed with G3 rifles. They jump, most likely out of the C-130H’s seen in Shiraz.

65th Airborne Operations Brigade:
Another famous unit, they are visible due to their use of safariflage DPM pattern camouflage. They wear a tactical vest and a green beret. The patch of the 65th is a dagger and golden wing superimposed over a green parachute and is located on the left shoulder. As for weapons, the MPT-9S (collapsible stock MP5) is standard, replacing the older uzi. Assault rifles are extremely rare, occasionally using a folding stock AK-47. Support weaponry, specifically the PKM, is equally rare.

Zahedan Commando Brigade:
Easily confused with the 58th commando division, but a smaller brigade was seen on parade in Zahedan and during the 2006 Blow of Zolfaqar games, wearing the tan beret, and commando patch associated with the independent commando units. They also had used the AK-47 and duck-hunter camp in the same manner as the 58th commando division. This unit works closely with the local IRIAA contingent, often using the CH-47 for airlifts and the AH-1 for CAS.




Continuing with armor....

Starting off, i'd like to make a point, that it might be possible to identify infantry support battalions within the armored divisions, during parade by looking for red berets and neck scarves, i'm not entirely sold on this theory yet, but its definitly a possibility

92nd Armour Division

The 92nd armour division is one of the shining features of the conventional Iranian arsenal. This is evident, if only by its stationing in Ahvaz, the crucial town along the southern border with Iraq. In comparison to the hodge-podge nature of Iranian armour elsewhere, the 92nd has fared relatively well, being at full divisional strength rather then the ‘light’ divisions found elsewhere.
The division itself frequently conducts war games and exercises indicating a high level of training within the division. Luckily for us that mean that there are also lots of good images to analyze.
The armour itself is composed of T-72 tanks painted in a stripe brown pattern. The T-72’s used are probably T-72S’s, rather then the lower quality T-72M1’s, but there is no way of confirming this as the Iranians have added ERA to both models. These tanks are supported by BMP-2’s painted in a similar manner as well as a very small number of BMP-1’s, though it is possible they have been completely phased out by now.. M60 tanks also appear to be deployed in this division, but when they are, they are deployed as second-line armour, usually only in the infantry support role rather then as armour. There are often static defensive positions along the border serving as fortified firing positions.
Speaking of infantry, there appears to be a very large infantry portion of this division, likely due to the fact that there is not a dedicated infantry division located immediately adjacent to them. They wear US-style woodland BDU's and M1 helmets, normally without covers, though sometimes with netting and more recently, painted in camouflage, often garishly like, though not quite rivalling, the paint on the Tosan, Zulfiqar, and Safir. Individual weaponry includes both the AK-47 and the G3, though by far the latter is most common and is regulated by unit. Squad support weaponry is most likely the PKM, though not much information is available on it, it is most likely deployed at a lesser rate then to the. Recoilless rifles and 107 mm rockets are deployed fairly frequently; often in conjunction with Jeeps. The infantry are occasionally supported with M113 and BTR APC’s, both with and without TOW’s. Overall quality of the equipment within the infantry support seems to be lower then of those within the dedicated infantry divisions, for instance, their rifles tend to be older models, their uniforms are second hand and they use older Jeep’s instead of the Safir.
Artillery support within the division is provided the M109, note, most likely not the Raad-2, also used are the towed M-46 130 mm artillery piece and Grad or Arash 122 mm rockets.
MANPAD’s such as the newer Misagh-2 and older Misagh-1 as well as zu-23-2’s, both towed and mounted on trucks, provide embedded anti-aircraft support, though there are dedicated air-defence battalions existing, utilizing, at minimum, the HAWK system.
These are divided into three brigades, but it is unclear how it is divided further.



81st Armour Division
Based out of Kermanshah. No further information available.

16th Armour Division
Based out of Qazvin, base is located north of the city, about 3-4 km. No further information is available.

88th Armour Division
The 88th armoured division, based out of Zahedan in the south-east of the country is definitely the runt of the litter when it comes to Iranian armour. As its stuck defending the sparsely inhabited Sistan-Baluchistan Province near Pakistan instead of the Iraq border or Tehran, it receives the worst of the equipment and participates in less training exercises per year. As such it is stuck with about and 50 M-48A5’s and an unspecified number of M-47M’s, It is likely the number is somewhere around 80 out of the remaining 100 M-47’s, with the remainder being stationed with the 77th Infantry division near Mashhad, though it is impossible to confirm the exact numbers.
This would mean that it would be an extremely light division, being only around 130 tanks total.
Extrapolating this further we only get, two half-strength tank battalions. This is extremely week for an entire division, but keep in mind that this units main enemy are poorly armed Sunni-rebels. The terrain also is extremely rugged, unsuitable for large armored formations.
They are supported by a small amount of BMP's.
Infantry support within the division is much like that in the 92nd, generic army infantry with woodland camouflage uniforms and G3 rifles, MG-3’s and RPG’s. They also work closely with the Zahedan commando division.


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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #94 on: December 31, 2009, 05:41:28 AM »
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Found some more info

58th Zolfaqar Commando Division (Dezful)
55th Airborne Brigade (Shiraz)
45th Commando Brigade (Ahvaz)

That we knew, but then i also found this

99th Air-Defense Group (Tehran)
4th Commando Unit Changal (translates as "fork", but this can't be right) (Tehran)
Gorouhan Takavar Pasdar Setad Gharargah (something, no idea, its a commando company of some sort, possibly command) (Tehran)


And by looking at more photos, i'm pretty sure theirs commando brigades in Gilan and Semnan, though i don't know anything about them beyond the usual tan beret and such.
« Last Edit: December 31, 2009, 05:51:14 AM by Ayyash »

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #95 on: January 03, 2010, 01:37:25 PM »
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Hello Ayyash,

Happy new year!! ;)

I have already one article (on a forum) in farsi about those units (perhaps the same with you)..
But I haven't found any confirmation of the existance of this units in the iranian media

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #96 on: January 03, 2010, 08:21:59 PM »
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Hello Ayyash,

Happy new year!! ;)

I have already one article (on a forum) in farsi about those units (perhaps the same with you)..
But I haven't found any confirmation of the existance of this units in the iranian media

Olivier

Happy New Year to you as well - my resolution for 2010 - find out the complete order of battle :) :)

I saw that info at Central Clubs


...and here's another patch

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #97 on: January 25, 2010, 06:59:01 PM »
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Another question:

According to this website, there are two different types of rank insignia for the IRGC, which one is correct?

http://www.uniforminsignia.net/?option=com_insigniasearch&Itemid=53&result=1445

http://www.uniforminsignia.net/?option=com_insigniasearch&Itemid=53&result=2681

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #98 on: January 25, 2010, 07:01:35 PM »
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Both are correct, but the latter is the new one that you can recently see on all IRGC uniforms. :)

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Re: Uniforms and order of battle
« Reply #99 on: January 25, 2010, 07:17:43 PM »
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SBS, like the British one? Special boat service?

 

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