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Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« on: September 27, 2011, 03:51:01 AM »
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I think its better to create an independent topic for this subject.

Some intresting pictures by LAST-WAR at military.ir :

Tracked Toyota:




Shahid Farsi project (Amphibious Vehicle)




weight: 9 tons
capacity: 9 passenger (Last-War says , he has seen ten seats in addition to driver and co-driver)
mission: on land and water
speed in water : 10 km/h
speed on land: 65 km/h
length : 615 cm
width: 225 cm
height : 195 cm
Project started at 1366 and finished at 1369 (now we are in 1390).


Shahid Etebari project (for transportation of commanders):




weight:3 tons
capacity: 3 passenger
equiped with RPG 11 on turret
speed on land: 75 km/h
length : 300 cm
width: 205 cm
height : 185 cm (with turret) 125 cm (without turret)
Project started at 1365 and finished at 1369 (now we are in 1390).


Jabal project for movement in swamp:


http://www.military.ir/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=17878



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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2011, 04:10:28 AM »
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Are the interior photos from the clean version that was paraded recently or are from Iran/Iraq war?

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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2011, 04:16:35 AM »
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I didnt ask him, but I think he has taken photos of interiors now, at an exhibition.
Some of photos have been taken from posters so there are some distortions.

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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2011, 04:25:48 AM »
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Are the interior photos from the clean version that was paraded recently or are from Iran/Iraq war?

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These are awesome photos!  Are these old/discarded concepts conjured during the war?

Catsoo-jan, I wonder if that was a Jange-Tahmili experiment or concept recently paraded as a 'museum piece'?

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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2011, 04:32:25 AM »
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mamdali,

I know these are old projects but these models seemed refurbished if for the sake of the parade. I am just curious if the interior photos are fresh or from the war time?


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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2011, 05:06:41 AM »
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Great information/images indeed!

It's too bad these designs never made it large scale production apparently, while a bit odd in appearance, they look to have been designed with very specific purposes.

I do wonder why they never did make to production, perhaps because they came to fruition towards the end of the war? Or perhaps there was only enough funds and resources for prototypes and not actual production?
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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2011, 05:32:26 AM »
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Great information/images indeed!

It's too bad these designs never made it large scale production apparently, while a bit odd in appearance, they look to have been designed with very specific purposes.

I do wonder why they never did make to production, perhaps because they came to fruition towards the end of the war? Or perhaps there was only enough funds and resources for prototypes and not actual production?

One of the reasons is that after war Jahad Sazandegi  was disbanded.

These projects have been designed and produced by Jahad Sazandegi. Jahad Sazandegi did many important engineering projects during war. They also did many construction projects in villages and deprived areas

Todays, some experts and analysts ask this question why did officials disband Jahad Sazandegi afte war, they believe it was a wrong decision.

Jahad Sazandegi was an orgnization similar Basij but in the field of engineering and construction affairs.
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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2011, 06:15:29 PM »
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Very original projects, especially the last one, Iran need more of this rather than reverse engineering.

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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2011, 07:43:36 PM »
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Original projects thats right... Should have continued ... Reverse engineering is good for some time ... Hopefully islamic innovation will prevail in zhe near future...

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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2011, 09:04:09 PM »
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Shahid Farsi project looks like brazilian apc
Iran Khodro largest auto maker in larger middle east

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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2011, 05:01:25 AM »
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Amphibious Bulldozer



















Khaibar bridge the longest floating bridge of the world (14 km) :






http://www.military.ir/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=11682&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
there are other intresting projects without photos talked about them on above page and here :
http://www.mehrnews.ir/NewsPrint.aspx?NewsID=1086116

he is one of our friends at military.ir during war when he was 14-15 years old at 1361 (29 years ago):

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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2011, 04:20:36 PM »
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they are just modification.
impressive none the less.

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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2011, 05:20:24 PM »
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they are just modification.
impressive none the less.
There are some creatures in the photos up there that are not modifications ... Somebody put some thoughts and efforts in these things ... More thoughts than what you put to write your comments

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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2011, 05:27:49 PM »
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There are some creatures in the photos up there that are not modifications ... Somebody put some thoughts and efforts in these things ... More thoughts than what you put to write your comments
so what. thoughts has to be put in other wise horses had build cars first.

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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2011, 05:36:34 PM »
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so what. thoughts has to be put in other wise horses had build cars first.

I dont know what u mean since ur english is very scrapy... My point is, you have to look when these things were done ... To evaluate in which context they were developed ... Then you can know their value ...

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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2011, 05:40:02 PM »
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacey_V._Murrow_Memorial_Bridge

this the longest floating bridge of the world not the bridge in the picture.

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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2011, 07:54:00 PM »
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacey_V._Murrow_Memorial_Bridge

this the longest floating bridge of the world not the bridge in the picture.

Aryana  length of khaibar is 14 km, the bridge you mentioned is around 2 km.
Dont forget they built this bridge at frontline of war under fire of enemy.
They used fiberglass and polymeric materials for construction of it(around 30 years ago).

Khaibar was a great engineering project that was praised by military experts of the world.

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خبرگزاری فرانسه در سوم فروردین 1363 اعلام نمود:

«به گفته مسئولین دولتی امریکا، دست یازیدن به پل قایقی با چنین طولی در تاریخ نظامی مدرن بی سابقه است.» از این خبر معلوم می شود آنها هنوز نفهمیده بودند کیفیت ساخت پل قایقی نیست.

please search more befor you want to comment about such project.

Khaibar bridge:







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Besat bridge :






Barrel bridge:





Barge bridge:





Khezr mobile bridge:




Swamp Carpet

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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2011, 09:32:10 PM »
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Aryana just in case you don't know,14>2.

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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2011, 04:20:01 AM »
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Please, no need to quote the whole photo collection in your replies................Catsoo

BTW, another interesting point to make is that only now we become aware of Iranian indigineous and secret projects that are more than 2 decades old.  Imagine, currently, what is being hidden juxtaposed with what is being actually disclosed.

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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2011, 04:20:12 PM »
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I can't say if these vehicles are built by Jihad-Sazandegi, but this thread it probably the best place for these pictures which I found re-posted on an Israeli website:








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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2011, 10:17:28 PM »
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Why do we need Bridges ? They are easily destroyed . But very difficult to construct . And only useful , when one side has air superiority . The conversion of Jeep to Boat shows the way . German Tanks , if I remember right , have ability to cross River . Without need for Bridge . I remember , when I said , Iran need Tanks that can cross River , some thought I was being difficult !


The best idea is last one . The firing of RPG from trench . Without sticking head up . Brilliant idea . Where there is a trench . If no trench then may still need a bullet proof shield . Like early German ones . To resist Tank round of 50 cal . Mounting several RPG on truck , bad idea !   ???
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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2011, 03:06:38 AM »
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The periscope RPG-7 designer is a friend of mine and he is a Sharif University professor now!

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Re: Vehicles built by Jihad Sazandegi
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2011, 03:43:33 AM »
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You know, we've heard that the Mohajer UAV developed during the same time period could carry RPGs. Until now I've wondered what kind of mechanism they used to mount and fire the rockets. Perhaps this is related?

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Very interesting catsoo! :)

 

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