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Offline Eagle2009

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Re: Iran to upgrade zolfaqar
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2010, 08:33:32 PM »
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...Source?
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Re: Iran to upgrade zolfaqar
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2010, 08:40:25 PM »
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Re: Iran to upgrade zolfaqar
« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2010, 12:27:23 AM »
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that is great news to hear when from long time we never hear about Zolfaqar MBT any more.
but why for export?
  

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Re: Iran to upgrade zolfaqar
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2010, 12:39:35 AM »
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I dont no why Iranian Newsites uses Wiki info in their articles thats terrible journalism Like American News uses Youtube and twitter
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Re: Iran to upgrade zolfaqar
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2010, 01:05:19 AM »
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There is very high possibility that they do not allowed to show or they basically do not have any kind of info about military equipment specially Iranian MBT Zolfaqar.
so to make long article the use Wiki.

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Re: Iran to upgrade zolfaqar
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2010, 01:34:24 AM »
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By law, Iranian media can't write about Iran military in any form and shape unless there is an official release. But they are permitted to quote from foreign sources without restrictions.

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Re: Iran to upgrade zolfaqar
« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2010, 02:29:35 AM »
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I don't blame them for not going into detail about military equiment but  they should have stopped after Gen Pourdastans statement they don't need to quote Bs sources from wiki or any other unknown source where they don't even know where they got their info from

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Re: Iran to upgrade zolfaqar
« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2010, 04:07:18 PM »
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"The upgraded version of Zolfaqar tanks are currently passing field tests and have, thus far, been successful (in these tests) in general, and they will be unveiled in the near future," Commander of the Iranian Army Ground Force Brigadier General Ahmad Reza Pourdastan told FNA on Monday.


They said the same thing last year, the before last, and the year before that. They have a better tank in their Russian built T54/55 and T72s...

The Zolfagar is nothing more than a modified M48A5.
The M8 raced forward, fired one 37mm round through the engine compartment while the TC dispatched the Tiger commander with his M1 Garand. This is what scouts are al about!

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Re: Zulfiqar Tank
« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2010, 03:33:35 AM »
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A new image of Z-1!


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Re: Zulfiqar Tank
« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2010, 03:50:25 AM »
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something about that photo looks photoshopped but it looks good thanks for the pic

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Re: Zulfiqar Tank
« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2010, 04:01:51 AM »
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It is not photoshopped!


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Re: Zulfiqar Tank
« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2010, 04:04:11 AM »
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is this a recent pic? I mean when was it taken?

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Re: Zulfiqar Tank
« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2010, 07:19:56 AM »
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lur! 13 years ago!!

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Re: Zulfiqar Tank
« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2010, 08:17:37 AM »
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I hate that color...lol

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Re: Zulfiqar Tank
« Reply #39 on: September 29, 2010, 12:19:37 PM »
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But I like it. Much better than the current color of Z3.

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Re: Zulfiqar Tank
« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2010, 01:20:31 AM »
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This is the reason they never show what is looks like inside.  Painting outside and nothing inside.  Hope they do not want to go to another war with this.

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Re: Zulfiqar Tank
« Reply #41 on: November 11, 2010, 03:14:13 AM »
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Re: Zulfiqar Tank
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2011, 01:58:45 PM »
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Beside i really like the looks from the Z2's. I understand this was a prototype betweeen the Z1 and Z3. My oppinian is that the production from the Z3 is underway. But like all self made weapons numbers are not availeble. Beside that i like to see more from the Z3.

Better 1 tank design that we can make then no tanks at all...

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Re: Zulfiqar Tank
« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2011, 09:48:25 PM »
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this is the fixed video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn-T-5k0_4E&list=UUMF4vfECnuAPAfW0s6lMpyg&index=1

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Re: Zulfiqar Tank
« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2011, 10:40:08 PM »
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I watched that video twice..Never saw a Zulfiqar. I did see M47s, T-72s, T-55s, and even Scorpion tanks.

There is a section where it shows a tanks operating at night but I think its a Chieftain not a Zulfiqar but I could be wrong.

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Re: Zulfiqar Tank
« Reply #45 on: January 30, 2011, 11:00:06 PM »
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I watched that video twice..Never saw a Zulfiqar. I did see M47s, T-72s, T-55s, and even Scorpion tanks.


The video is in Urdu. The commentary first presents a general overview of the Iranian armed forces structure and later begins to mention the Zolfaghar, in which they basically state the existence of three versions, without showing any footage of it during the video's entire length. It goes on to mention its night-vision and fire-control systems and further states that a factory makes 30 of them each year without further detail. At the end it mentions the secrecy revolving the project and how little can be disclosed about it.

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There is a section where it shows a tanks operating at night but I think its a Chieftain not a Zulfiqar but I could be wrong.

It is a Chieftain/ 'Mobarez'

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Re: Zulfiqar Tank
« Reply #46 on: March 06, 2011, 12:47:50 AM »
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One question that just hit me is how the loading system works in the tank. There's no autoloader (...in the prototype), but it still uses the same 125 mm ammunition as the T-72 uses. The fact that it comes in two separate parts seems to me like it would roughly halve the rate-of-fire (because the loader has to make two trips).

Moro-ever, the ammunition storage is literally the same as on the M-48 which is configured for single-piece 105 mm shells.

Also, another observation I made as I was looking through the photos from the Military.ir walkaround done on Army Day 2009 (or was it 2010), was that the TC doesn't appear to have any actual controls. The DNNS-2 right in front of the commanders MG-cupola goes to the gunners controls right in front of the TC. It's also kind of odd that the gunner has two sets of controls, the power-traverse from the M-48, then the fire-control yoke below it. Also, the distance between the FC-yoke and the eyepiece looks a lot greater then a traditional torsos height. Maybe it belongs to the commander? That would make the configuration make even less sense though.

Also, i'm more convinced then ever that there are two relatively distinct Z-1 prototypes. The 125 mm armed model (the one we've been seeing now) has a boxier turret, commanders cupola, and the occasionally, the DNSS-2A sight. The one armed with the 105 mm gun on the other hand has a turret whose bottom rear surface slopes up instead of just going parallel to the top. Some other features like ventilators, wind sensors, and maybe even a LWR or something seem to be interchangeable to a degree.

Lastly, look at all that deadspace in front of the gunnders control, that is some thin armor if you compare it to the main-gun mount to the left.

One overwhelming feeling I get looking through these pictures and making these observations is that it just confirms the belief that this prototype was only ever that, a prototype. It was slapped together to see what would work and what didn't.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2011, 12:51:46 AM by Ayyash »
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Re: Zulfiqar Tank
« Reply #47 on: March 06, 2011, 12:57:14 AM »
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Ayyash,

Could you post those images from Military.ir here? That puts some imagination as to what you are talking about?

Thanks,


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Re: Zulfiqar Tank
« Reply #48 on: March 06, 2011, 01:02:49 AM »
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Page one of this thread, it's in a video posted by Lur.

Here are the HQ versions though

1) gunners position
2) fire control yoke
3) ammunition storage behind loaders, left of the tank-commander

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Re: Zulfiqar Tank
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2011, 01:08:52 AM »
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Ayyash,

If I were you I would not even mention these photos. This particular prototype was a demonstration unit built to verify the concept not an actual prototype nor the production type.

Suffice to say, the army would not allow any photos from Iranian indigenous tank to be published let allow people to take casual photos of a tank that is obviously , this is obviously a demo and rusted.


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