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2 (BIG) 2500 JDAMs Dropped on Fixed Taliban Positions
« on: March 08, 2012, 05:54:04 AM »
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This is why you can never let the USA gain air superiority:

http://megacombat.net/usaf-dropped-2x2500-jdam-on-taliban-in-afghanistan/  :o


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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2012, 06:32:17 AM »
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What do you guys think ?!

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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2012, 07:06:34 AM »
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يتحدث معي!  >:(

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Re: 2 (BIG) 2500 JDAMs Dropped on Fixed Taliban Positions
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2012, 07:21:01 AM »
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what a waste of money...
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2012, 07:28:38 AM »
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Why ?

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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2012, 07:31:54 AM »
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2012, 07:43:19 AM »
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Yes, totally waste of money. Better me spend it in some malls  :omg:

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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2012, 07:50:58 AM »
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Made the world a better place.
“I searched for God among the Christians and on the Cross and therein I found Him not. I went into the ancient temples of idolatry; no trace of Him was there. I entered the mountain cave of Hira and then went as far as Qandhar but God I found not. With set purpose I fared to the summit of Mount Caucasus and found there only 'anqa's habitation. Then I directed my search to the Kaaba, the resort of old and young; God was not there even. Turning to philosophy I inquired about him from ibn Sina but found Him not within his range. I fared then to the scene of the Prophet's experience of a great divine manifestation only a "two bow-lengths' distance from him" but God was not there even in that exalted court. Finally, I looked into my own heart and there I saw Him; He was nowhere else.”

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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2012, 07:52:16 AM »
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Isn't it obvious why?

In some ways: Yes

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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2012, 07:53:12 AM »
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Made the world a better place.

I tell you what will make the world a better place;

Disarming America and Israel.

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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2012, 08:59:59 AM »
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I tell you what will make the world a better place;

Disarming America and Israel.

What evil is going take there place then? What will that look like I wonder. 

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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2012, 09:07:12 AM »
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I guess the lesser of 2 evils    ;)

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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2012, 01:39:01 PM »
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Withou the US military the world would be much worse place to live.

What comes to Israel; I would expand that notion to the whole neighbourhood. During the last two millenias plus they have lived in peace only when a superior outsider has enforced peace. Whole Middle-East between Iran, Turkey and Egypt should be disarmed. But as that ainīt feasible without that superior outsider invading the region, I settle for demanding complete and verified nuclear disarmament of Israel, prosecution of their war criminals and withdrawal to internationally recognized borders.

I tell you what will make the world a better place;

Disarming America and Israel.

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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2012, 01:49:05 PM »
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Regarding Israel, it shouldn't be there in the first place. It's an imerpalistic project aimed to use world jewry to create division in the middle east and keep the suez canal under western control.

Why would the world be a much worse place to live if the US would be disarmed? Because of Russia? or China?

The peace in europe that you see and enjoy had to come at the expense of 60 million dead in WWII and over 30 million dead in WWI. Most of the conflicts that the world faces today has a lot to do with previous imperialistic policies.

This is a complete fallacy that the world would fall apart if the US was disarmed. When has the US used its military for good? They have only used it to further their imperialistic agenda, unless you actually believe what your told by the mass media that they are a force for good.

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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2012, 02:15:50 PM »
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While this is O/T the fact is that the way US dealt with Third Reich and Soviet Union was the way to go. They have made grandiose mistakes for sure though and commited heinous crimes themselves too [beginning right when the country was born], there is no doubt about that. What comes to their policies as a whole, I believe that they should withdraw from most of the bases abroad and first and foremost pay attention their own problems before telling others how to behave. Disarming, no noo... That would be insane.

What comes to Israel, I have pragmatic point of view. I have boycotted them since I learned enough, but that state is there to stay. A tiny fraction of Arab land that is, we (Finns) would never be where we are if we could not forgive and strive for compromise, we have lost much more and never conquered our lands that we eventually lost in the first place (*cough cough*).  We did not lose 1 % or something like that, through the centuries we lost the most. I am descendant of a refugee family myself: the branch that stayed in Russia perished, in WWII we lost all of our lands because of Soviet imperialism. We were lucky enough to lose no one in battlefield but Soviet partisans attacked our family farm, raped the women and killed everyone excluding children who were in the woods herding the cattle. I know the hate. the burning hate and how it consumes the people. We have forgiven by now, we do not bear grudge anymore and we move forward - but we will never forget and that is one of the reasons why I am myself member of volunteer defence organization. When I see how passionate hate has infected people who are not even involved, that is weird (not meaning you YMJ, but you know the type)

Besides I am being optimist, you know.. the current conflict is barely over a century old, the most difficult part of it is counted in decades.. Eg. The Germans and French fought over a millenia, a good battle between those two killed more people than the Jewish-Arab conflict as a whole has. Sooner or later they will realize that they are just bleeding themselves and they could and should work together instead of fighting. That day will come. But first the previous/current generation of the leadership has to go. Israelis do not have the leaders they need for the change now, Arabs are just moving towards the possibility. But sooner or later..


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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2012, 02:20:28 PM »
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Withou the US military the world would be much worse place to live.

There was no more aggressive and brutal country than US for the last 50 years, World absolutely would be a better place without US military. Sure, new superpower would probably be China, and while they would be more aggressive than they are now, but I doubt they would be anywhere near warmongers as US are. China prefers extending their influence through trade, US - through military.

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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2012, 02:20:37 PM »
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If not disarming then what? All these weapons are gonna be smuggled and sold to create more conflicts abroad.

Israel can not remain. This is a fact. The palestinian refugees should have the right to return and only then can they have a referendum on who should govern etc. The palestinians would constitute the majority and then many european/russian jews would get up and leave anyway.

This is an occupation and the reason why many countries don't recognize israel is because sooner or later it will disappear, its not only illegitimate, but the fact is a minority group can not govern over the majority without being called racist/appertheid regime.


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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2012, 02:22:49 PM »
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Chinese pacifism is connected to impotence in terms of last centuries. We will see the true face of the dragon during the coming decades, but what I expect is another form of neo-Colonial imperialism and the preludes are already being played in Africa..

There was no more aggressive and brutal country than US for the last 50 years, World absolutely would be a better place without US military. Sure, new superpower would probably be China, and while they would be more aggressive than they are now, but I doubt they would be anywhere near warmongers as US are. China prefers extending their influence through trade, US - through military.

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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2012, 02:25:17 PM »
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I refered to disarmament, not to scaling down of the military (to reasonable level).

What comes to the refugee issue: refugees and their descendants should have the right to return AND the countries they now live in should give them citizenship option there too. Then they could actually decide where to go. The way Arabs treat their brothers and sisters is shameful.

If not disarming then what? All these weapons are gonna be smuggled and sold to create more conflicts abroad.

Israel can not remain. This is a fact. The palestinian refugees should have the right to return and only then can they have a referendum on who should govern etc. The palestinians would constitute the majority and then many european/russian jews would get up and leave anyway.

This is an occupation and the reason why many countries don't recognize israel is because sooner or later it will disappear, its not only illegitimate, but the fact is a minority group can not govern over the majority without being called racist/appertheid regime.



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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2012, 02:25:32 PM »
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While this is O/T the fact is that the way US dealt with Third Reich and Soviet Union was the way to go.

Soviets and China won WWII, not US. It helped, same as UK and others, but Soviets/China impact was BY FAR greater than everyone else combined.

Oh, and US didnt "dealt" with Soviets, they kept each other at bay, till Soviets imploded, much like China would have had until they made nice reforms.

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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2012, 02:27:21 PM »
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Quite fancy revisionism. Where did you learn that?

Soviets and China won WWII, not US. It helped, same as UK and others, but Soviets/China impact was BY FAR greater than everyone else combined.

Oh, and US didnt "dealt" with Soviets, they kept each other at bay, till Soviets imploded, much like China would have had until they made nice reforms.

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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2012, 02:40:40 PM »
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It only proves that NATO soldiers have no balls to face the enemy themselves, so they have to drop bombs and stand around to watch and laugh about it. Bunch of cowards!

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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2012, 02:45:27 PM »
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Quite fancy revisionism. Where did you learn that?

You didnt know? Not surprising though, US knows how to advertise itself  ;)

My sources are non-bias historians and actual history itself. For example, US impact in WWII was around 5% (its not as little as it seems, due to massive scale of the war). While Russia and China were fighting in their respective fronts far beyond anyone else.

However whats lesser known, that countries were paying for US supplies (tech., ammunition, food, etc). Russia was sending many ships with gold to US, some were sunken by nazis and just recently two such ships were found by treasure hunters.

Another little know fact, US played both sides, so actual positive impact was even lesser than 5%.

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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2012, 07:52:28 PM »
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BS claim. Besides that, you engage the enemy on your own terms. In war it is not about dying for your cause, but making the enemy to die for theirsī.

It only proves that NATO soldiers have no balls to face the enemy themselves, so they have to drop bombs and stand around to watch and laugh about it. Bunch of cowards!

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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2012, 07:53:46 PM »
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Funny guy. Name a few of those historians that agree with your assesments and then we might talk.

You didnt know? Not surprising though, US knows how to advertise itself  ;)

My sources are non-bias historians and actual history itself. For example, US impact in WWII was around 5% (its not as little as it seems, due to massive scale of the war). While Russia and China were fighting in their respective fronts far beyond anyone else.

However whats lesser known, that countries were paying for US supplies (tech., ammunition, food, etc). Russia was sending many ships with gold to US, some were sunken by nazis and just recently two such ships were found by treasure hunters.

Another little know fact, US played both sides, so actual positive impact was even lesser than 5%.

 

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