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« Reply #350 on: February 04, 2012, 07:00:20 PM »
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Strong speech of the syrian delegation ...

- countries that abuse human rights want now democracy in syria?
- only in Syria? What about the other arab countries?
- Arab countries not allowing women to drive, vote and even watch soccer want now democracy?
- Aljazeera said 2 days ago that a massacre will happen... How come?
- US used veto 60 times to cover massacares of israel
- Syria is being punished because we support the rights of people

I missed the face of the qatari spy.

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« Reply #351 on: February 04, 2012, 07:13:12 PM »
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Russia and China would've signed their own death warrant if they hadn't blocked it..What's going on in Syria is way beyond Assad..It's been and always been about Iran, Russia & China..These three countries have been a major stumbling block for Western imperialism(aka "Democracy and human rights")..Syria happens to be the link between these three..Knock Syria out and the Russia, China, Iran alliance will be weakened...Good call from them..This has been the most important thing they've ever done at the UN..;)

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« Reply #352 on: February 04, 2012, 07:42:11 PM »
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Well after what they did with iran sanctions ... We cannt trust them alot. Lybia as well .... This time seems that they finally are feeling the danger

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« Reply #353 on: February 04, 2012, 08:40:10 PM »
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Breaking news now:

lebanese army launches an operation near the borders of Syria. They want to stop smuggling weapons to Syria... And station there.... This would break the back of the rebels in the region using lebanon as a logistics zone...

Knowing the good relations between the army and syria, seems we will see now an attack on the rebels from both sides... Then Syrian army is pushing as well on Homs from the other side...

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« Reply #354 on: February 04, 2012, 08:58:16 PM »
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Well after what they did with iran sanctions ... We cannt trust them alot. Lybia as well .... This time seems that they finally are feeling the danger


Well, I think I'm beginning to understand Russia and China's position on UNSC sanctions on Iran(I may be wrong though)..They(Russia & China) know Iran's capable of taking care of itself and even they know they wont follow the sanctions..They will back a UNSC sanctions on arm sales to Iran but they'll sell Iran the technology and blueprints to manufacture arms - that's not breaking UNSC sanctions..If anybody's studied their moves, they've never backed any unilateral Western sanctions on Iran..

Syria on the other hand is much weaker than Iran and is under the mercy of a Qatari/Saudi funded media hype and agitprop aimed at regime change..They've made a good call by vetoing this resolution..The West are simply cowards who use legitimate international bodies to legalize their evil actions in foreign countries.They first tried to get a resolution and failed, then tried to use the lousy Arab League and have also failed.The West is not even acknowledging the fact that the opposition is receiving arms from Turkey and other PGCC dictators..No sane person will support this.

Through this all, I wonder how the Qatari "king" sleeps at night.. First he organized the overthrow of Mubarak, Qaddafi, then he managed to piss the Russians off by frisking their ambassador over the Syrian issue and now trying his darn best to destroy Syria..I think it must have something to do with Qatar having a massive US base in his country..He thinks they US base in his country makes him immune to threats and danger..I can bet the number of people out to get him and demanding his head increase day by day.His time is just around the corner..Even if Syria doesn't have the resources to carry out any "action" against him, the Russians will and are bidding their time..He made the wrong move by messing with Russia..

He should find out about  Alexander Litvinenko, the ex-KGB  guy who defected to join the MI6, what happens when you cross the Russian FSB. He's a dead man walking...

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« Reply #355 on: February 05, 2012, 08:43:51 AM »
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Source: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NB04Ak01.html

THE ROVING EYE
Exposed: The Arab agenda in Syria
By Pepe Escobar

Here's a crash course on the "democratic" machinations of the Arab League - rather the PGCC (An incomplete acronym was completed: PGCC) League, as real power in this pan-Arab organization is wielded by two of the six Persian Gulf monarchies composing the Persian Gulf Cooperation Council (An incomplete reference was completed), also known as Gulf Counter-revolution Club; Qatar and the House of Saud.

Essentially, the PGCC (An incomplete acronym was completed: PGCC) created an Arab League group to monitor what's going on in Syria. The Syrian National Council - based in North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) member countries Turkey and France - enthusiastically supported it. It's telling that Syria's neighbor Lebanon did not.

When the over 160 monitors, after one month of enquiries, issued their report ... surprise! The report did not follow the official PGCC (An incomplete acronym was completed: PGCC) line - which is that the "evil" Bashar al-Assad government is indiscriminately, and unilaterally, killing its own people, and so regime change is in order.

The Arab League's Ministerial Committee had approved the report, with four votes in favor (Algeria, Egypt, Sudan and PGCC (An incomplete acronym was completed: PGCC) member Oman) and only one against; guess who, Qatar - which is now presiding the Arab League because the emirate bought their (rotating) turn from the Palestinian Authority.

So the report was either ignored (by Western corporate media) or mercilessly destroyed - by Arab media, virtually all of it financed by either the House of Saud or Qatar. It was not even discussed - because it was prevented by the PGCC (An incomplete acronym was completed: PGCC) from being translated from Arabic into English and published in the Arab League's website.

Until it was leaked. Here it is, in full.

http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/Report_of_Arab_League_Observer_Mission.pdf

The report is adamant. There was no organized, lethal repression by the Syrian government against peaceful protesters. Instead, the report points to shady armed gangs as responsible for hundreds of deaths among Syrian civilians, and over one thousand among the Syrian army, using lethal tactics such as bombing of civilian buses, bombing of trains carrying diesel oil, bombing of police buses and bombing of bridges and pipelines.

Once again, the official NATOGCC version of Syria is of a popular uprising smashed by bullets and tanks. Instead, BRICS members Russia and China, and large swathes of the developing world see it as the Syrian government fighting heavily armed foreign mercenaries. The report largely confirms these suspicions.

The Syrian National Council is essentially a Muslim Brotherhood outfit affiliated with both the House of Saud and Qatar - with an uneasy Israel quietly supporting it in the background. Legitimacy is not exactly its cup of green tea. As for the Free Syrian Army, it does have its defectors, and well-meaning opponents of the Assad regime, but most of all is infested with these foreign mercenaries weaponized by the PGCC (An incomplete acronym was completed: PGCC), especially Salafist gangs.

Still NATOGCC, blocked from applying in Syria its one-size-fits-all model of promoting "democracy" by bombing a country and getting rid of the proverbial evil dictator, won't be deterred. PGCC (An incomplete acronym was completed: PGCC) leaders House of Saud and Qatar bluntly dismissed their own report and went straight to the meat of the matter; impose a NATOGCC regime change via the UN Security Council.

So the current "Arab-led drive to secure a peaceful end to the 10-month crackdown" in Syria at the UN is no less than a crude regime change drive. Usual suspects Washington, London and Paris have been forced to fall over themselves to assure the real international community this is not another mandate for NATO bombing - a la Libya. US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton described it as "a path for a political transition that would preserve Syria's unity and institutions".

But BRICS members Russia and China see it for what it is. Another BRICS member - India - alongside Pakistan and South Africa, have all raised serious objections to the NATOGCC-peddled draft UN resolution.

There won't be another Libya-style no fly zone; after all the Assad regime is not exactly deploying Migs against civilians. A UN regime change resolution will be blocked - again - by Russia and China. Even NATOGCC is in disarray, as each block of players - Washington, Ankara, and the House of Saud-Doha duo - has a different long-term geopolitical agenda. Not to mention crucial Syrian neighbor and trading partner Iraq; Baghdad is on the record against any regime change scheme.

So here's a suggestion to the House of Saud and Qatar; since you're so seduced by the prospect of "democracy" in Syria, why don't you use all your American weaponry and invade in the dead of night - like you did to Bahrain - and execute regime change by yourselves?

Pepe Escobar is the author of Globalistan: How the Globalized World is Dissolving into Liquid War (Nimble Books, 2007) and Red Zone Blues: a snapshot of Baghdad during the surge. His most recent is Obama does Globalistan (Nimble Books, 2009).

He may be reached at pepeasia@yahoo.com.

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« Reply #356 on: February 05, 2012, 10:55:21 AM »
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So here's a suggestion to the House of Saud and Qatar; since you're so seduced by the prospect of "democracy" in Syria, why don't you use all your American weaponry and invade in the dead of night - like you did to Bahrain - and execute regime change by yourselves?
Pepe's last remark said it all. House of Saud is in shambles these days.... May allah expose the backwardness and hypocrisy of the salafi/wahhabi dillweeds to all muslims.
it's time to nut up or shut up!

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« Reply #357 on: February 05, 2012, 04:37:34 PM »
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'Saudi-funded jihad targets Syria as last secular Arab state' Small | Large

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« Reply #358 on: February 05, 2012, 05:58:58 PM »
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Syrian Ambassador

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Very Important: Why Asad has not yet fulfilled his promise of Elections?

Remember, Asad was the only Arab Leader who declared without any Arab Spring in 2000 for Democratic Syria.

Watch this Video of Syrian Ambassador to UN (at 6:25 minute comes the question and he answers).


Question: Syrian Ambassador asks why Arab Spring could not be brought without Blood?

Important question is why West don't want an Arab Spring without Blood?

Why West don't want the opposition to negotiate with Asad upon the Reform and Democracy and Elections?

Why West wanted that Arab Observers be taken out of Syria?


All these questions are discussed in the video above.

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« Reply #359 on: February 06, 2012, 03:09:58 PM »
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I am from china,  90%  chinese support  the chinese deputy in UN vote down the draft resolution. In 1989, many chinese young people support
 the manifestation, but now, we know we were fooled by VOA and BBC at that time !!
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« Reply #360 on: February 07, 2012, 12:18:05 PM »
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Thousands welcomed and thanked Russian FM in Damascus

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« Reply #361 on: February 08, 2012, 12:34:07 PM »
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Check the video in this link

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/02/08/193297.html

watch at 0:30 .. the guy is so afraid hehe ... cannt even talk ... from the sounds of the shelling you can see how this whole thing is nothing.. they are describing a war however the sounds show barely a skirmish ... what would they say if they witness an israeli attack as used to happen in south lebanon for ex.??...

Assad has to scare them a bit .. no body would die for Qatari money

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« Reply #362 on: February 09, 2012, 03:11:45 PM »
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An intelligence report has revealed that British and Qatari troops are leading armed terror gangs in the Syrian city of Homs in their bloody battle against civilians and the Syrian army forces.


According to the Israeli website, debkafile, which is known for links to intelligence sources, “British and Qatari troops are directing rebel ammunition deliveries and tactics in the bloody battle for Homs”.

The report said that Britain’s foreign spying apparatus, MI6, has established four centers of operation in the city with the troops on the ground paving the way for an undercover Turkish military incursion into Syria.

The debkafile site said the presence of British and Qatari troops in Homs topped the agenda of Tuesday’s talks between President Assad government’s officials and head of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service Mikhail Fradkov.

Qatar makes little secret of supporting the Syrian opposition with cash, arms and political support.

But, the British new adventurism in Syria comes as a parliamentary report has warned that the British government will face huge financial problems if the military resolve to launch a military campaign on the same scale as the operation in Libya.

In 2011 Britain and France became part of NATO-led operations targeting Gaddafi regime in Libya.

According to official reports, Britain spent about €254mln on the military campaign in Libya. However, a publication in The Guardian at the end of last year contends that the Libyan campaign cost British taxpayers 1.75 billion pounds. This exceeds the originally planned sum by nearly sevenfold.

Given the situation, the British MPs have warned the government of David Cameron that it will face “difficult decisions” if it chooses to engage in yet another campaign. Nearly two billion pounds spent over the six months of the campaign in Libya could be more than the military can handle.

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« Reply #363 on: February 09, 2012, 03:16:46 PM »
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for sure they are there as they were in Libya ... directing the rebels ... On the other side there are IRGC and Hezbollah helping... And this time, they will show them how urban war is.

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« Reply #364 on: February 09, 2012, 03:54:58 PM »
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Yes there is a strong possibility that IRCG units in Homs are fighting SAS special forces.We will see Homs liberated from this Zionist backed traitors soon.

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« Reply #365 on: February 10, 2012, 07:17:30 AM »
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Syria rebel scum call for jihad on Russia, Iran, Hezbollah  >:(
Syria Rebels Call for Muslim Jihad on Russia, Iran, Hezbollah Invaders in Syria 6-Feb-1

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« Reply #366 on: February 10, 2012, 07:25:10 AM »
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They look like a bunch of no good gangsters.  Scum, that's what they are!
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« Reply #367 on: February 10, 2012, 08:42:22 AM »
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They're not the ones saying this..Can't you see?? The guy's reading from a script on his laptop..Now the real question is, who's pulling their strings..They're so stupid it's beyond imagination..Lumping Iran, Lebanon and Russia on their Jihad list is a sure recipe for their defeat..One does not threaten Iran,Russia and Lebanon by heart and expect to live freely..I'm sure the intelligence agencies of said countries know the handlers of these groups..They can start from there..Take them out one by one.

If the Qatari leaders are not taken care of, their actions may very well cause a fire-storm in the entire region..Someone needs to put them down and the sooner the better..

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« Reply #368 on: February 10, 2012, 09:20:57 AM »
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The Arab countries are a herd of sheep... the US is the shepherd... Now you need a dog for the herd... Normally the role of the dog was given to Egypt... the dog makes sure that the herd are moving in the same direction .. as the shepherd wants them ... now as Egypt is having its own troubles, the US gave the dog role to Qatar ... a small fat dog ...


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« Reply #369 on: February 10, 2012, 09:50:01 AM »
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why didnt they mention hamas while they are at it? I dont understand this U turn hamas has done! They have really gone low from my eyes!
I am a Muslim, kill me and call it COLLATERAL DAMAGE!
Imprison me and call it SECURITY MEASURE!
Exile my people en mass and call it NEW MIDDLE EAST!
Rob my resources call it, PROGRESS!
Corrupt my Leaders call it DEMOCRACY!

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« Reply #370 on: February 10, 2012, 09:59:32 AM »
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The Arab countries are a herd of sheep... the US is the shepherd... Now you need a dog for the herd... Normally the role of the dog was given to Egypt... the dog makes sure that the herd are moving in the same direction .. as the shepherd wants them ... now as Egypt is having its own troubles, the US gave the dog role to Qatar ... a small fat dog ...

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« Reply #371 on: February 10, 2012, 10:11:53 AM »
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why didnt they mention hamas while they are at it? I dont understand this U turn hamas has done! They have really gone low from my eyes!

Don't be surprised..At the end of the day, every group must do what's in their best interest to "survive"..Hamas has right or wrong calculated that by joining the Qataris, they have a better chance of survival..If that's what they want, so be it..Let them learn for themselves.

Having said that, people in Gaza feel betrayed by Hamas..This is only the beginning..Personally, I don't think this deal will stand for long..It's against all of Hamas's principle. Again, I could be wrong entirely.

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« Reply #372 on: February 10, 2012, 10:15:16 AM »
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Don't be surprised..At the end of the day, every group must do what's in their best interest to "survive"..Hamas has right or wrong calculated that by joining the Qataris, they have a better chance of survival..If that's what they want, so be it..Let them learn for themselves.

Having said that, people in Gaza feel betrayed by Hamas..This is only the beginning..Personally, I don't think this deal will stand for long..It's against all of Hamas's principle. Again, I could be wrong entirely.
the problem with that bro is they should have learned their lesson from Fatah to begin with... and they are openly on the radio supporting the opposition in Syria, Saying they are their brothers that are being slaughtered by Assad murderous family! These words are from the radio its self today in CY.... BFBS. They say Assad regime will fall sooner or later and we might as well distance our selves from them! WTF??? I never ever heard Hamas talk like this?

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« Reply #373 on: February 10, 2012, 10:29:48 AM »
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Brother, are we forgetting that Hamas was created by Israel?

Maybe we had too high of hopes for Hamas.

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« Reply #374 on: February 10, 2012, 10:34:02 AM »
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Brother, are we forgetting that Hamas was created by Israel?

Maybe we had too high of hopes for Hamas.
yes it was brother, but that was our leverage point in the past when we supported them! That from the own enemies hands the enemy is suffering... now this point has backfired and left Palestine unprotected! Where is Hamas going with this is phenomenon! They even mentioned on the radio saying the muslim brotherhood are our brothers???!!!! Saying things like we were part of them!??

 

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