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Israel has gained access to airfields in Azerbaijan, possibly so that Israeli aircraft could land there after attacking Iran, a new report in Foreign Policy magazine says:

[F]our senior diplomats and military intelligence officers say that the United States has concluded that Israel has recently been granted access to airbases on Iran's northern border. To do what, exactly, is not clear. "The Israelis have bought an airfield," a senior administration official told me in early February, "and the airfield is called Azerbaijan."

Senior U.S. intelligence officials are increasingly concerned that Israel's military expansion into Azerbaijan complicates U.S. efforts to dampen Israeli-Iranian tensions, according to the sources. Military planners, I was told, must now plan not only for a war scenario that includes the Persian Gulf -- but one that could include the Caucasus.

A few weeks ago, when Azerbaijan's $1.6 billion arms deal with Israel was announced, this blog discounted the idea that Azerbaijan would get involved in a potential Israeli attack on Iran, arguing that the risks for Azerbaijan are too high and the potential gains unclear. The exception would be if Azerbaijan's influence were so discreet as to allow Baku some plausible deniability; then Iran probably wouldn't stand to gain from attacking Azerbaijan. According to the FP report, the most likely use for the Azerbaijan airfields would be so that Israeli aircraft could land there after an attack, obviating the need for mid-air refueling en route to Iran, which Israel isn't particularly experienced with and which would reduce the amount of weapons the planes could take on each sortie:

The U.S. intelligence and diplomatic officials told me they believe that Israel has gained access to these airbases through a series of quiet political and military understandings. "I doubt that there's actually anything in writing," added a senior retired American diplomat who spent his career in the region. "But I don't think there's any doubt -- if Israeli jets want to land in Azerbaijan after an attack, they'd probably be allowed to do so...."

Access to such airfields is important for Israel, because it would mean that Israeli F-15I and F-16I fighter-bombers would not have to refuel midflight during a strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, but could simply continue north and land in Azerbaijan. Defense analyst David Isenberg describes the ability to use Azeri airfields as "a significant asset" to any Israel strike, calculating that the 2,200-mile trip from Israel to Iran and back again would stretch Israel's warplanes to their limits. "Even if they added extra fuel tanks, they'd be running on fumes," Isenberg told me, "so being allowed access to Azeri airfields would be crucial."

Former CENTCOM commander Gen. Joe Hoar simplified Israel's calculations: "They save themselves 800 miles of fuel," he told me in a recent telephone interview. "That doesn't guarantee that Israel will attack Iran, but it certainly makes it more doable."

I'm not sure that would afford Azerbaijan the deniability they'd need to avoid a retaliatory attack from Iran. Surely Iran would be able to see where the Israeli jets were going after their attack. Azerbaijan's defense minister visited Tehran earlier this month and promised that Azerbaijan would not be used as a launchpad from which to attack Iran. FP reports: "A U.S. military intelligence officer noted that Azeri defense minister did not explicitly bar Israeli bombers from landing in the country after a strike. Nor did he rule out the basing of Israeli search-and-rescue units in the country." That is a pretty legalistic parsing of Azerbaijan's promises, and it seems unlikely Tehran would think much of it.

So what is Azerbaijan thinking here?


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I dont think Baku Regime has the spine to do so ... heat would be too much for them to survive later wards ...


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The baku regime is very stupid and aggressive just think of the dumbest most illogical move and you can bet azerbaijan thinks its brilliant.
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Israel’s Secret Staging Ground

U.S. officials believe that the Israelis have gained access to airbases in Azerbaijan. Does this bring them one step closer to a war with Iran?
 
BY MARK PERRY |MARCH 28, 2012
 





In 2009, the deputy chief of mission of the U.S. embassy in Baku, Donald Lu, sent a cable to the State Department's headquarters in Foggy Bottom titled "Azerbaijan's discreet symbiosis with Israel." The memo, later released by WikiLeaks, quotes Azerbaijan's President Ilham Aliyev as describing his country's relationship with the Jewish state as an iceberg: "nine-tenths of it is below the surface."
 
Why does it matter? Because Azerbaijan is strategically located on Iran's northern border and, according to several high-level sources I've spoken with inside the U.S. government, Obama administration officials now believe that the "submerged" aspect of the Israeli-Azerbaijani alliance -- the security cooperation between the two countries -- is heightening the risks of an Israeli strike on Iran.
 
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In particular, four senior diplomats and military intelligence officers say that the United States has concluded that Israel has recently been granted access to airbases on Iran's northern border. To do what, exactly, is not clear. "The Israelis have bought an airfield," a senior administration official told me in early February, "and the airfield is called Azerbaijan."
 
Senior U.S. intelligence officials are increasingly concerned that Israel's military expansion into Azerbaijan complicates U.S. efforts to dampen Israeli-Iranian tensions, according to the sources. Military planners, I was told, must now plan not only for a war scenario that includes the Persian Gulf -- but one that could include the Caucasus. The burgeoning Israel-Azerbaijan relationship has also become a flashpoint in both countries' relationship with Turkey, a regional heavyweight that fears the economic and political fallout of a war with Iran. Turkey's most senior government officials have raised their concerns with their U.S. counterparts, as well as with the Azeris, the sources said.
 
The Israeli embassy in Washington, the Israel Defense Forces, and the Mossad, Israel's national intelligence agency, were all contacted for comment on this story but did not respond.
 
The Azeri embassy to the United States also did not respond to requests for information regarding Azerbaijan's security agreements with Israel. During a recent visit to Tehran, however, Azerbaijan's defense minister publicly ruled out the use of Azerbaijan for a strike on Iran. "The Republic of Azerbaijan, like always in the past, will never permit any country to take advantage of its land, or air, against the Islamic Republic of Iran, which we consider our brother and friend country," he said.
 
But even if his government makes good on that promise, it could still provide Israel with essential support. A U.S. military intelligence officer noted that Azeri defense minister did not explicitly bar Israeli bombers from landing in the country after a strike. Nor did he rule out the basing of Israeli search-and-rescue units in the country. Proffering such landing rights -- and mounting search and rescue operations closer to Iran -- would make an Israeli attack on Iran easier.
 
"We're watching what Iran does closely," one of the U.S. sources, an intelligence officer engaged in assessing the ramifications of a prospective Israeli attack confirmed. "But we're now watching what Israel is doing in Azerbaijan. And we're not happy about it."
 
Israel's deepening relationship with the Baku government was cemented in February by a $1.6 billion arms agreement that provides Azerbaijan with sophisticated drones and missile-defense systems. At the same time, Baku's ties with Tehran have frayed: Iran presented a note to Azerbaijan's ambassador last month claiming that Baku has supported Israeli-trained assassination squads targeting Iranian scientists, an accusation the Azeri government called "a slander." In February, a member of Yeni Azerbadzhan -- the ruling party -- called on the government to change the country's name to "North Azerbaijan," implicitly suggesting that the 16 million Azeris who live in northern Iran ("South Azerbaijan") are in need of liberation.
 
And this month, Baku announced that 22 people had been arrested for spying on behalf of Iran, charging they had been tasked by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps to "commit terrorist acts against the U.S., Israeli, and other Western states' embassies." The allegations prompted multiple angry denials from the Iranian government.
 

It's clear why the Israelis prize their ties to Azerbaijan -- and why the Iranians are infuriated by them. The Azeri military has four abandoned, Soviet-era airfields that would potentially be available to the Israelis, as well as four airbases for their own aircraft, according to the International Institute for Strategic Studies' Military Balance 2011.
 
The U.S. intelligence and diplomatic officials told me they believe that Israel has gained access to these airbases through a series of quiet political and military understandings. "I doubt that there's actually anything in writing," added a senior retired American diplomat who spent his career in the region. "But I don't think there's any doubt -- if Israeli jets want to land in Azerbaijan after an attack, they'd probably be allowed to do so. Israel is deeply embedded in Azerbaijan, and has been for the last two decades."
 
The prospect of Israel using Azerbaijan's airfields for an Iranian attack first became public in December 2006, when retired Israeli Brig. Gen. Oded Tira angrily denounced the George W. Bush administration's lack of action on the Iranian nuclear program. "For our part," he wrote in a widely cited commentary, "we should also coordinate with Azerbaijan the use of airbases in its territory and also enlist the support of the Azeri minority in Iran." The "coordination" that Tira spoke of is now a reality, the U.S. sources told me.
 
Access to such airfields is important for Israel, because it would mean that Israeli F-15I and F-16I fighter-bombers would not have to refuel midflight during a strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, but could simply continue north and land in Azerbaijan. Defense analyst David Isenberg describes the ability to use Azeri airfields as "a significant asset" to any Israel strike, calculating that the 2,200-mile trip from Israel to Iran and back again would stretch Israel's warplanes to their limits. "Even if they added extra fuel tanks, they'd be running on fumes," Isenberg told me, "so being allowed access to Azeri airfields would be crucial."
 
Former CENTCOM commander Gen. Joe Hoar simplified Israel's calculations: "They save themselves 800 miles of fuel," he told me in a recent telephone interview. "That doesn't guarantee that Israel will attack Iran, but it certainly makes it more doable."
 
Using airbases in Azerbaijan would ensure that Israel would not have to rely on its modest fleet of air refuelers or on its refueling expertise, which a senior U.S. military intelligence officer described as "pretty minimal." Military planners have monitored Israeli refueling exercises, he added, and are not impressed. "They're just not very good at it."
 
Retired Air Force Col. Sam Gardiner, who conducted a study for a think tank affiliated with the Swedish Ministry of Defense of likely Israeli attack scenarios in March 2010, said that Israel is capable of using its fleet of F-15I and F-16I warplanes in a strike on Iran without refueling after the initial top-off over Israel. "It's not weight that's a problem," he said, "but the numbers of weapons that are mounted on each aircraft." Put simply, the more distance a fighter-bomber is required to travel, the more fuel it will need and the fewer weapons it can carry. Shortening the distance adds firepower, and enhances the chances for a successful strike.
 
"The problem is the F-15s," Gardiner said, "who would go in as fighters to protect the F-16 bombers and stay over the target." In the likely event that Iran scrambled its fighters to intercept the Israeli jets, he continued, the F-15s would be used to engage them. "Those F-15s would burn up fuel over the target, and would need to land."
 
Could they land in Azerbaijan? "Well, it would have to be low profile, because of political sensitivities, so that means it would have to be outside of Baku and it would have to be highly developed." Azerbaijan has such a place: the Sitalcay airstrip, which is located just over 40 miles northwest of Baku and 340 miles from the Iranian border. Prior to the collapse of the Soviet Union, Sitalcay's two tarmacs and the adjacent facilities were used by a squadron of Soviet Sukhoi SU-25 jets -- perfect for Israeli fighters and bombers.  "Well then," Gardiner said, after the site was described to him, "that would be the place."
 
Even if Israeli jets did not land in Azerbaijan, access to Azeri airfields holds a number of advantages for the Israel Defense Forces. The airfields not only have facilities to service fighter-bombers, but a senior U.S. military intelligence officer said that Israel would likely base helicopter rescue units there in the days just prior to a strike for possible search and rescue missions

This officer pointed to a July 2010 joint Israeli-Romanian exercise that tested Israeli air capabilities in mountainous areas -- like those the Israeli Air Force would face during a bombing mission against Iranian nuclear facilities that the Iranians have buried deep into mountainsides. U.S. military officers watched the exercises closely, not least because they objected to the large number of Israeli fighters operating from airbases of a NATO-member country, but also because 100 Israeli fighters overflew Greece as a part of a simulation of an attack on Iran. The Israelis eventually curtailed their Romanian military activities when the United States expressed discomfort with practicing the bombing of Iran from a NATO country, according to this senior military intelligence officer.
 
This same senior U.S. military intelligence officer speculated that the search and rescue component of those operations will be transferred to Azerbaijan -- "if they haven't been already." He added that Israel could also use Azerbaijan as a base for Israeli drones, either as part of a follow-on attack against Iran, or to mount aerial assessment missions in an attack's aftermath.
 
Azerbaijan clearly profits from its deepening relationship with Israel. The Jewish state is the second largest customer for Azeri oil - shipped through the Baku-Tibilisi-Ceyhan pipeline -- and its military trade allows Azerbaijan to upgrade its military after the Organization for Cooperation and Security in Europe (OSCE) slapped it with an arms embargo after its six-year undeclared war with Armenia over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region. Finally, modernizing the Azeri military sends a clear signal to Iran that interference in Azerbaijan could be costly.
 
"Azerbaijan has worries of its own," said Alexander Murinson, an Israeli-American scholar who wrote in an influential monograph on Israeli-Azeri ties for Tel Aviv's Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies. "The Baku government has expelled Iranians preaching in their mosques, broken up pro-Iranian terrorist groups, and countered Iranian propaganda efforts among its population."
 
The deepening Azeri-Israeli relationship has also escalated Israel's dispute with Turkey, which began when Israeli commandos boarded a Turkish ship destined for Gaza in May 2010, killing nine Turkish citizens. When Turkey demanded an apology, Israel not only refused, it abruptly canceled a $150 million contract to develop and manufacture drones with the Turkish military -- then entered negotiations with Azerbaijan to jointly manufacture 60 Israeli drones of varying types. The $1.6 billion arms agreement between Israel and Azerbaijan also left Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan "sputtering in rage," according to a retired U.S. diplomat.
 
The centerpiece of the recent arms deal is Azerbaijan's acquisition of Israeli drones, which has only heightened Turkish anxieties further. In November 2011, the Turkish government retrieved the wreckage of an Israeli "Heron" drone in the Mediterranean, south of the city of Adana -- well inside its maritime borders. Erdogan's government believed the drone's flight had originated in the Kurdish areas of northern Iraq and demanded that Israel provide an explanation, but got none. "They lied; they told us the drone didn't belong to them," a former Turkish official told me last month. "But it had their markings."
 
Israel began cultivating strong relations with Baku in 1994, when Israeli telecommunications firm Bezeq bought a large share of the nationally controlled telephone operating system. By 1995, Azerbaijan's marketplace was awash with Israeli goods: "Strauss ice cream, cell phones produced by Motorola's Israeli division, Maccabee beer, and other Israeli imports are ubiquitous," an Israeli reporter wrote in the Jerusalem Post.
 
In March 1996, then-Health Minister Ephraim Sneh became the first senior Israeli official to visit Baku -- but not the last. Benjamin Netanyahu made the trip in 1997, a high-level Knesset delegation in 1998, Deputy Prime Minister Avigdor Lieberman and Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni in 2007, Israeli President Shimon Peres in 2009, and Lieberman again, as foreign minister, this last February. Accompanying Peres on his visit to Baku was Avi Leumi, the CEO of Israel's Aeronautics Defense Systems and a former Mossad official who paved the way for the drone agreement.
 
U.S. intelligence officials began to take Israel's courtship of Azerbaijan seriously in 2001, one of the senior U.S. military intelligence officers said. In 2001, Israeli arms manufacturer Elbit Systems contracted with Georgia's Tbilisi Aerospace Manufacturing to upgrade the Soviet SU-25 Scorpion, a close air-support fighter, and one of its first customers was Azerbaijan. More recently, Israel's Elta Systems has cooperated with Azerbaijan in building the TecSar reconnaissance satellite system and, in 2009, the two countries began negotiations over Azeri production of the Namer infantry fighting vehicle.
 
Israeli firms "built and guard the fence around Baku's international airport, monitor and help protect Azerbaijan's energy infrastructure, and even provide security for Azerbaijan's president on foreign visits," according to a study published by Ilya Bourtman in the Middle East Journal. Bourtman noted that Azerbaijan shares intelligence data on Iran with Israel, while Murinson raised the possibility that Israelis have set up electronic listening stations along Azerbaijan's Iranian border.
 
Israeli officials downplay their military cooperation with Baku, pointing out that Azerbaijan is one of the few Muslim nations that makes Israelis feel welcome. "I think that in the Caucasian region, Azerbaijan is an icon of progress and modernity," Sneh told an Azeri magazine in July 2010.
 
Many would beg to differ with that description. Sneh's claim "is laughable," the retired American diplomat said. "Azerbaijan is a thuggish family-run kleptocracy and one of the most corrupt regimes in the world." The U.S. embassy in Baku has also been scathing: A 2009 State Department cable described Aliyev, the son of the country's longtime ruler and former KGB general Heydar Aliyev, as a "mafia-like" figure, comparable to "Godfather" characters Sonny and Michael Corleone. On domestic issues in particular, the cable warned that Aliyev's policies had become "increasingly authoritarian and hostile to diversity of political views."
 
But the U.S. military is less concerned with Israel's business interests in Baku, which are well-known, than it is with how and if Israel will employ its influence in Azerbaijan, should its leaders decide to strike Iran's nuclear facilities. The cable goes on to confirm that Israel is focused on Azerbaijan as a military ally -- "Israel's main goal is to preserve Azerbaijan as an ally against Iran, a platform for reconnaissance of that country and as a market for military hardware."
 
It is precisely what is not known about the relationship that keeps U.S. military planners up at night. One former CIA analyst doubted that Israel will launch an attack from Azerbaijan, describing it as "just too chancy, politically." However, he didn't rule out Israel's use of Azeri airfields to mount what he calls "follow-on or recovery operations." He then added: "Of course, if they do that, it widens the conflict, and complicates it. It's extremely dangerous."
 
One of the senior U.S. military officers familiar with U.S. war plans is not as circumspect. "We are studying every option, every variable, and every factor in a possible Israeli strike," he told me. Does that include Israel's use of Azerbaijan as a platform from which to launch a strike -- or to recover Israeli aircraft following one? There was only a moment's hesitation. "I think I've answered the question," he said.
 http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/03/28/israel_s_secret_staging_ground?page=0,0

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Israel, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Saudis and other arabian peninsula /gulf governments, and the US's forces / coalition forces in the region are all working to contain Iran. And, it is unfortunately more than likely that Syria will be unable to provide significant support to Iran either.

Besides building ties with Iraq and Kurds, Iran should look to brace itself through strong relations on its eastern front. The US is withdrawing from Afghanistan, so Iran can build strong ties not only with far east nations but mainly with neighboring central asian nations like Turkmenistan and maybe even Pakistan as it separates from US. While Pakistan has a great deal of issues of its own, many of its people are still pro-Iran.

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Israel, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Saudis and other arabian peninsula /gulf governments, and the US's forces / coalition forces in the region are all working to contain Iran. And, it is unfortunately more than likely that Syria will be unable to provide significant support to Iran either.

Besides building ties with Iraq and Kurds, Iran should look to brace itself through strong relations on its eastern front. The US is withdrawing from Afghanistan, so Iran can build strong ties not only with far east nations but mainly with neighboring central asian nations like Turkmenistan and maybe even Pakistan as it separates from US. While Pakistan has a great deal of issues of its own, many of its people are still pro-Iran.

True, but I do believe the Syria chaos is not meant to overthrow Assad, as they clearly can't, but to weaken Syria and keep it distracted/busy and also knock Iran off balance..At the end of the day, Iran must assume or make her calculations that she's entering the fight on her own with no support coming from anywhere.Hamas has proven over the past few weeks not to be a very reliable group with the yes/no/maybe attitude...Iran can certainly count on Hezbollah but they too can only do so much.

I also believe they've already made this calculations..A few days ago, Iran foreign minister said Iran's "prepared for all scenarios" if war breaks out..You don't spend 30+ years of being in Washington's crosshair and not prepare yourself..The funny thing here is, this "Iran war" is not in the US's interest and everything to do with the Zionist occupation..They want weakened and vassal states all around so they can continue with their expansionist project..

As for Azerbaijan, the least said about Aliyev and his goons the better..He knows he's playing with fire but his secular ideologies have clouded his judgement on reality...He's following exactly in the footsteps of Saakashvili of Georgia who ended up with his country divided after the war. He should start parking his bags and get his one-way ticket to Tel Aviv..he may not like what's coming his way..

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Are the Azeri really this stupid? For their own sake, I hope not.

Edit: look through the comments on Jpost. Those Jews really are sure of themselves. The little cockroaches forget easily. 
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Are the Azeri really this stupid? For their own sake, I hope not.

Edit: look through the comments on Jpost. Those Jews really are sure of themselves. The little cockroaches forget easily. 
I think they are just ball-less cowards. Now they are Iran's enemy.

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Israel and Azerbaijan: unlikely allies?

Claims - disputed by both countries - that Israel has secured Azerbaijani airbases has awakened interest in the Caucasus


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The Azerbaijan capital, Baku. Photograph: Mikhail Metzel/AP


In the latest in a series of explosive reports on Israel's covert hostilities against Iran, one vigorously denied by both the Israeli government and Baku, Foreign Policy magazine has quoted anonymous US officials saying that Israel has secured access to airbases on Iran's northern border through its well-nurtured defence alliance with Azerbaijan.


"The Israelis have bought an airfield," a senior US administration official was quoted telling Foreign Policy's Mark Perry, "and the airfield is called Azerbaijan."


Israel has refused to validate the report, which goes on to outline US concerns that the claimed move will inflame already raw Israeli-Iran relations and potentially draw the Caucasus into any war. One of Perry's US intelligence sources told him:



We're watching what Iran does closely. But we're now watching what Israel is doing in Azerbaijan. And we're not happy about it



Senior sources in the Israeli government insist they know nothing of this alleged strategic acquisition and question the veracity of the report, pointing out that Perry has based his claims exclusively on unnamed US officials and two independent thinktank reports unaffiliated with any notable institutions.


One senior Israeli official suggests, however, that Iran's outrage at its neighbour's burgeoning relationship with the Jewish state may actually be pushing the unlikely allies closer together.


"The more pressure applied by Iran, the more they unveil plots to carry out terror attacks on Azerbaijani embassies, the more they [Azeris] are co-operating with us," the official explained, pointing out that relations between Azerbaijan and Iran are becoming increasingly fraught.


"Iran's fear that its considerable Azeri minority may have aspirations for independence is the current bed of its relations with Azerbaijan. As a result, Azerbaijan is very interested in firming up its relationship with Israel."

Last month, Israel confirmed the sale of drones and anti-aircraft missile defence systems to the former Soviet state in a $1.6bn arms deal.


But Dr Brenda Shaffer, Israel's foremost expert on Azerbaijan, suggests it is highly unlikely that this deal belies a bilateral defence pact against Iran. If Azerbaijan is bolstering its defence systems, she says this is more likely to be a display of strength intended for Armenia, which currently occupies 20% of it territory.


Azerbaijan is bordered by Russia, Iran and Turkey. Its economy is dependent on the safe export of oil, which requires regional stability. It's foreign policy is characterised by its attempts to appease each of these powers, as well as the US and Israel.


More than 30% of the Iranian population are ethnic Azeris, including Ayatollah Khamenei, Iran's spiritual leader, and the opposition leader, Mir-Hossein Mousavi, who is currently being held under house arrest.


"[Azerbaijan] tries to maintain friendly relations with Iran as it does Israel. It would be very wary of allowing itself to take a step that might seen as aggressive," Shaffer suggests.


"If there is a conflict with Iran, Azerbaijan will be the first to suffer. Their border with Iran is porous. If Iran wants to strike back, they will do so most easily in the pro-western country on its border, which does not have stringent border control or internal security. We saw this in the attacks in February. It is in their interests to prevent an attack on Iran."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2012/mar/29/israel-azerbaijan-unlikely-allies

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Frankly speaking, there is no concrete evidence in the story. Certainly Azebeijan is not stupid to commit to such agreement. Azerbeijan clearly knows that it will be engulfed with a devastating war with Iran and possibly Armenia (to take advantage of the situation) and a subversion by Muslims ! Perhaps that is why Azerbeijan has strongly refuted the validity of this story here: http://www.****.***/news/diplomacy-defense/azerbaijan-denies-granting-israel-access-to-air-bases-on-iran-border-1.421562


I personally do not believe the story and consider it as Psychological warfare and nothing else. The Zionists know they CAN'T attack Iran, the plan is next to impossible however the media is trying to make it a make belief as a credible possibility.

As Iranians say it, "Beshno-va-Bavar Nakon"!


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If they really went insane to allow Israel to use their land to attack Iran, Basij will devastate them....

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They will end up like Georgia!  A few years ago israelis were building armament manufactures including one su-25 upgrade facility. Russians reduced all this to dust and rubble. At that time Israelis were quite nervous about further reactions on the part of Russians.
It seems that they have now switched to Alievestan. But let's not forget that in the late 80s the US and Israel were openly supporting Alievestan against Armenia.  The Iranian and Russian interests are converging more and more.

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I do not doubt this story , this shit head Aliyev has been nothing but hostile towards us I hope they are this stupid and
Hopefully we will unite Oston azarbayejon one more time

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Aliyev once said that Azerbaijan's relationship with Israel is like an iceberg. Meaning on the surface you see a little piece, but bellow the surface it's a huge area. They will of course deny this and try to downplay their relations with Israel, but that's just to save face and not lose whatever support they have from Muslim countries.

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True, but I do believe the Syria chaos is not meant to overthrow Assad, as they clearly can't, but to weaken Syria and keep it distracted/busy and also knock Iran off balance..At the end of the day, Iran must assume or make her calculations that she's entering the fight on her own with no support coming from anywhere.Hamas has proven over the past few weeks not to be a very reliable group with the yes/no/maybe attitude...Iran can certainly count on Hezbollah but they too can only do so much.

I agree with you in their intentions, but there is no way that Syria would let Iran fight alone, especially when the opportunity rises to project the war outwards, allowing emergency laws + extreme prejiduce to be used against terrorists in the country. Syria will join the war in a heart beat no matter what the cost.

Anyway, this all assumes that the zionist entity would make the fatal mistake of even flying over Iran. I doubt they have the guts, because they should know the consequences of even a failed attack will cost them their very existence.
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Israel's "war on Iran" is/has been mostly a media one..Every now and then they leak or create events that will generate "news" regarding this..God forbid, a week go by without some Israeli threat to strike Iran..

In reality, they're too weak to survive a war with Iran and they know it..Their media campaign is to convince people around the world to support their position - this is clearly not working, either. Expect more blah blah "news" from them before people from all over the world begin to protest their warmongering tendencies..

Their latest stunt is doing these funny videos and posting them on youtube about "Israel loves Iran"..And then there's some stupid "Iranians" who also make similar videos and post them on youtube saying the same..
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A History: Israel-Azerbaijan Relations

March 30, 2012 4:35 pm0 comments



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Lakkana Nanayakkara

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Baku, Azerbaijan. Photo: wiki commons.
 
Much has been made of Mark Perry’s recent piece in Foreign Policy Magazine, which claims that Israel has been given access to at least one Azerbaijan airfield for use during a military strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities.  Azerbaijan borders Iran to the north, which would allow Israeli planes to refuel on the ground instead of in the air.
 
Israeli-Azeri relations have developed rapidly since Azerbaijan’s independence from the Soviet Union in 1991. This is mainly due to both countries recognizing “Iran as a major, even existential security threat”. According to Azerbaijan’s President Ilham Aliyev, his country’s relationship with Israel is “nine-tenths … below the surface.”
 
Israel buys 30% of its oil from Azerbaijan and is the second largest customer for Azeri oil, which is shipped through the Baku-Tibilisi-Ceyhan pipeline.
 
There are estimated to be some 30,000 former Azeri Jews in Israel and 25,000 Jews still live in Azerbaijan. However, despite the close ties there is still no Azerbaijani embassy in Israel.
 
In the 90s, Israel started purchasing Azeri oil and “sent medical, technological, and agricultural experts” to Azerbaijan. In addition to unspecified weapons sales and intelligence operations, “Israeli firms built and guard the fence around Baku’s international airport, monitor and help protect Azerbaijan’s energy infrastructure, and even provide security for Azerbaijan’s president on his foreign visits.”
 
Azerbaijan wanted Israel to use its influence to improve US-Azeri relations and counteract Armenia’s strong ties to the United States. This became important for Azerbaijan after it not only lost a war and the Nagorno-Karabakh region to its archenemy Armenia, but also when the US imposed sanctions on them.
 
An Israeli firm, Bezeq, has been a major player in the Azeri telephone market since 1994 and many Israeli companies operate in Azerbaijan’s energy sector. In 1995, an Israeli journalist noted that Azerbaijan was flooded with “Strauss ice cream, cell phones produced by Motorola’s Israeli division, Maccabee beer, and other Israeli imports”.
 
In 2004, exports from Azerbaijan to Israel were worth $323 million and in 2005 Israel was Azerbaijan’s fifth largest trading partner.
 
In September 2008, Azerbaijan signed an agreement reportedly worth “hundreds of millions of dollars” with “three Israeli companies to buy mortars, ammunition, rocket artillery and radio equipment.”
 
Specific cases of publicized Israeli-Azeri military co-operation include upgrading  Soviet SU-25 Scorpion aircraft in 2001, building the TecSar reconnaissance satellite system and Azeri production of the Namer infantry fighting vehicle in 2009.
 
After its ties with Turkey started to deteriorate over the Gaza flotilla incident, Israel agreed to jointly manufacture 60 Israeli drones with Azerbaijan in 2011.
 
In February 2012, Israel signed a $1.6 billion weapons contract that will provide Azerbaijan with sophisticated drones, as well as anti-aircraft and missile defense systems.
 
According to four anonymous U.S. senior diplomats and military intelligence officers, Israel now has access to Azeri airfields. The Sitalcay airstrip is considered to be suitable for Israeli aircraft due to its distance from Azerbaijan’s capital and its existing facilities. Israel may also have “electronic listening stations” along the border with Iran.
 
Although Azerbaijan’s defense minister refused to allow any attack to be launched on Iran from Azerbaijan, he “did not explicitly bar Israeli bombers from landing in the country after a strike” or “…rule out the basing of Israeli search-and-rescue units in the country.”
http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/03/30/a-history-israel-azerbaijan-relations/

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Iran claims Azerbaijan emerged on historic Iranian land - expert


March 31, 2012 - 13:46 AMT

PanARMENIAN.Net - Following the deterioration of bilateral relations between Iran and Azerbaijan, statements claiming that Azerbaijan, as a state, emerged only in 1918, gain official voicing, expert in Iranian studies said.
 
“Iranian officials often refer to Azerbaijan as former Iranian territory,” Armen Israelyan told a press conference in Yerevan.
 
Iran’s representatives claim that Azerbaijan emerged in the territory of historic Iranian Shirvan province.
 
Besides, Iran repeatedly speaks of violations of rights and pressures against national minorities in Azerbaijan. Some officials hint that Azerbaijan further distances itself from the Nagorno Karabakh conflict resolution, the expert said.
 
Israelyan believes that Armenia must use the situation to deepen and develop its ties with Iran.
http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/101195/Iran_claims_Azerbaijan_emerged_on_historic_Iranian_land__expert

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These propagandists from the "dinosaur prostitute mainstream medias" are really Dumb. In my view this media bashing is meant to distract people. Let's say that the Zionists had deployed their F-XX in Alievestan, wouldn’t spies, satellites and radars notice their presence? Of course everyone knows that Iranians and Russians do not have radars, spies and satellites!
and of course at the moment they would take off from Alievestan, their radar signature could not be distinguished from AAF (Aliev Air Force). The Iranians would watch them fly over, bomb the so called sites and fly back to Alievestan without moving their little finger.
of course they would achieve all this with 2 or 3 F-16s and destroy all Iranian facilities.

Fist of all, they would need more than an handful f-16, f-15 to even think about doing that. A massive move especially F-16s, F-15 would immediately be picked up by radars and satellites not to mention the spies on the ground. It will be a one way trip for them because before even thinking of returning back  to Alievestan would be reduced to a stash of rubbles.
Also, a direct consequence of this would be a full retrieval from NPT, a military response and most probably the decision of mounting a nuclear dissuasion force which will be more than legitimate. 

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I think Iran should not artificially speed up upcoming events. Aliev's state is an oil state. Their oil reserves are not so big but rather limited. In previous years BP and other companies were pumping too much oil from Alievs's state but in recent years they slow down this process to prolong alievs's oil reserves... But this will not help much. If there is not new major discoveries of oil (which is doubtful) aliev's big oil will last 15-20 year at maximum. And decline is nearing. They also have natural gas but this can not fully compensate oil's decline. So after this events will have different direction.

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We need to create another Hezbollah, this time in our former lands

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