Author Topic: Our enemies military strategy. (Read 855 times)

Jonk89 · « **on:** January 27, 2012, 09:06:01 PM »

From military strategy and tactical point of view let us examine a few major developments in Middle East.
1.   U. S is pulling out from both Iraq and Afghanistan.
2.   U. S. deployed tens of thousands of her troops to occupied Palestine.
3.   U.S, British, and French navies moved into the Persian Gulf.
4.   Israel with small (i), have established intelligence bases in Iraq Kurdistan and Northern Azerbaijan.
5.   CIA is stationed in both Afghanistan and Pakistan, as well as Iraq, turkey and Azerbaijan and southern Persian Gulf states. (Nothing new of course).
U.S is pulling out from both Iraq and Afghanistan. This will give Iran less targets for retaliation if she is attacked. U.S casualties will be minimized .
U.S deployed tens of thousands of her troops to occupied Palestine. From military strategic point of view those troops were not deployed there to protect Israel (i) from Iran but to help Israel to attack Syria and Hezbollah.
U.S, British, and French navies moved into the Persian Gulf: This is what Iran should be concern herself with, especially if these navies move out of the Persian Gulf and stationed in the nearby in the Sea of Oman. Azerbaijan and Turkey will be utilized for intelligence gathering and probably the first air strike against Iran. At the same time insurgents including monafeghin e khalgh and some shahi groups in Iraq’s Kurdistan, and Sistan and Baluchistan provinces, trained by CIA and Israel will be more active in Eastern and Western parts of Iran.
It is my opinion from the observation of their troops’ movement that our enemies will attack Iran, Syria and Hezbollah in Lebanon simultaneously. This will cause neither countries be able to help the other. (Transferring weapons or troops), it would be much harder for Iran to help Hezbollah. In my opinion Hezbollah should be saturated with weaponry and advisors by both Iran and Syria. This is only my opinion from what I see is happening. I am not saying this will happen or not. I appreciate your feedbacks.

Moon · « **Reply #1 on:** January 28, 2012, 03:29:30 AM »

You raise very good points based on what is happening already, which I'm sure Iran,Syria and Hizbollah are ware of.Iran has plenty of targets she can hit throughout the region, nothing is outside Iran's reach in the region.

reza18 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 28, 2012, 08:09:51 AM »

NATO/US military runs on long fuel supply lines...Dedicate a special team to target these facilities and they'll be crippled in no time in a war scenario..

Iran can do this..But not without suffering some heavy blows herself..War is a game of strategy..It's important to make it as costly as possible for your opponent..Once he realizes the cost is too high to bare, he opts to "diplomacy"..In all this calculations, I'm of the opinion that Iran's in an advantageous position ie home turf advantage..

Jonk89 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 28, 2012, 04:20:06 PM »

Quote from: reza18 on January 28, 2012, 08:09:51 AM

NATO/US military runs on long fuel supply lines...Dedicate a special team to target these facilities and they'll be crippled in no time in a war scenario..

Iran can do this..But not without suffering some heavy blows herself..War is a game of strategy..It's important to make it as costly as possible for your opponent..Once he realizes the cost is too high to bare, he opts to "diplomacy"..In all this calculations, I'm of the opinion that Iran's in an advantageous position ie home turf advantage..

You are absolutely right. It is important for Iran to target the refineries and fuel reservoirs of the countries where US / NATO military is stationed.

Pasdar · « **Reply #4 on:** January 28, 2012, 07:58:42 PM »

Quite definitely the pipelines, oil wells and oil plants need to be hit first chance.

reza18 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 28, 2012, 09:38:20 PM »

If you look at it closely, NATO(US) derived a lot of their war tactics from Nazi Germany..The Nazi's secret to their military success was their highly mobile attack formation(Blitzkrieg).Of course this had it's flaws and that's exactly what led to their defeat in Stalingrad.Timing was everything in Stalingrad.First off it was winter so there was a lot of mud everywhere slowing down the German attack formation..This led to a prolonged battle that the Germans weren't used to.It also gave the Russians enough time to adjust/adapt and launch counter attacks on German supply lines and command positions.

When you study all of US's wars, they focus primarily on striking hard and fast..Any prolonging of the war and they become exposed and weary..If the enemy manages to survive their first onslaught, the US army becomes worried and edgy..They hate prolonged conflict..This is where Iran has the advantage..A case in point is Afghanistan where the Taliban simply melted away during the first B2/B52 bomber strikes..The US unloaded an awful lotta explosives on Taliban positions with very little result. They were surprised when the Taliban made a massive comeback a year later and the rest is history..They're now suing for peace with the Taliban..

In any military confrontation, Iran must dedicate a team whose main aim will be to disrupt their supply lines throughout the region..Train lines, airports, fuel dumps, arms dumps and food supply lines...As Napoleon said, every army marches on its stomach..Hit their food supplies and make them starve till they mutiny..No food, no fighting.

Jonk89 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 28, 2012, 10:19:09 PM »

Our Quds and navy special forces should be assigned to this task.

We also used the same tactic during the eight years war. We opened the dam where Iraqi's tank division were passing through. All Iraqi's tanks stuck in the mud and our cobra's finished them. It was like turkey shooting. This was one of the general Fallahi and Chamran's tactical plans.

Jonk89 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 28, 2012, 10:52:03 PM »

If the war starts, it is crucial that Iran forces the NATO to fight in her terms not the other way around. Our tactical plans should be so versatile to confuse the enemy and make them to be unable to determine our military's next move.

reza18 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 28, 2012, 10:56:52 PM »

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If the war starts, it is crucial that Iran forces the NATO to fight in her terms not the other way around.

True..I believe one Iranian commander said that not too long ago..He said Iran will choose the war theatre for the enemy and will teach the enemy the art of war and how to fight..Mind you, these are men who cut their teeth in the bloody trenches along the Iran - Iraq border slugging it out...They've seen and tasted war.Unlike most NATO generals who hide in their bunkers far away from the war-zone and behind a computer screen..

Jonk89 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 28, 2012, 10:59:40 PM »

Quote from: reza18 on January 28, 2012, 10:56:52 PM

True..I believe one Iranian commander said that not too long ago..He said Iran will choose the war theatre for the enemy and will teach the enemy the art of war and how to fight..Mind you, these are men who cut their teeth in the bloody trenches along the Iran - Iraq border slugging it out...They've seen and tasted war.Unlike most NATO generals who hide in their bunkers far away from the war-zone and behind a computer screen..

You are right. I was there and saw it with my own eyes.

reza18 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 28, 2012, 11:12:34 PM »

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You are right. I was there and saw it with my own eyes.

Apollyon · « **Reply #11 on:** January 29, 2012, 02:19:03 AM »

I agree, but what you say is a threat for the medium term future.

The immediate threat is one of intelligence operations, targeted bombing raid / missile strikes, potential special forces or commando raid, assassinations of scientists and engineers, flood of propaganda, attacking Iran's technologies and power grid through cyber warfare.

These are the places of most pressing concern, Iran must
-counter the propaganda and generate its own,
-protect at all costs scientists and engineers
-invest heavily in cyber defense
-and anti-aircraft weapons
-missile defense.

Not only are these the most pressing concerns from the US, but furthermore it seems unlikely that the US will move forward with more aggressive strategies if they cannot get their covert operations / terrorism / cyber warfare to be effective in weakening Iran's defense sufficiently.
Furthermore, the Israelis will rely solely on covert operations, propaganda, and electronic warfare given the strategic limitations.

Secondly, the US leaving Iraq and Afghanistan also provides great opportunity for Iran. Sure, Iran won't have targets there, but if Iran can establish its authority in these nations, then Iran can hit other coalition forces based throughout mesopotamia and the Indian subcontinent.

Jonk89 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 29, 2012, 04:06:45 AM »

Quote from: reza18 on January 28, 2012, 11:12:34 PM

Thanks reza18

Jonk89 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 29, 2012, 04:22:32 AM »

U.S and NATO will not dare to execute a land envision inside of Iran, however there are 3 very important strategic islands where NATO forces will try to capture in the first phase. If Iran loses these islands, then she would not have a strong leverage in Persian Gulf. These islands are Great and Lesser Tumbs along with Abu Musa. NATO will use its Special operation forces to drop in, clear the Islands and then marines will arrive. Iran should utilize her ranger division, and revolutionary guards with light artillery and armor vehicles to defend these islands.

Jonk89 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 29, 2012, 04:36:05 AM »

israel does not have the balls to attack Iran. It is why I think they will attack Syria and Hezbollah with the help of U.S ground forces. U.S telling the world that the reason they are deploying tens of thousands of American troops there is because they want to strengthen the israelis air defense. That little shit state does not need tens of thousands of American troops for her air defense. A few hundred would be more than enough. What they are telling the world is pure lies. They are getting ready to attack Syria and Hezbollah.

reza18 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 29, 2012, 07:46:22 AM »

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They are getting ready to attack Syria and Hezbollah.

That's correct, but I believe that plan is a bit foggy at this time..They're banking on the lousy "free Syrian army" to capture some territory inside Syria so they can use that as a staging point for their actions.Just like Libya.They simply cannot attack Syria if the lousy Syrian rebels haven't made any significant gains..As time drags on, their plans become more and more difficult to implement.

What they're seeking is a Lebanon style civil war in the 1980s so that they can have an excuse to intervene militarily.So far it seems the lousy rebels don't have the muscles to cause any serious damage to Syria.The Syrian arm forces haven't even tapped into their strategic arms yet.They haven't used jet fighters or helicopters like Qaddafi did during the early days of the Libyan chaos which justified the UN no-fly-zone.They can easily order an evacuation in these rebel towns and bomb the town to bits with the remaining rebels in it.

Hezbollah's arsenal has been increased and they have much capable weapons than 2006. I dare to say Hezbollah will even use that opportunity to capture the Sheba farms from the Zionist occupiers. Syria could take the opportunity to also recapture the Golan by saturation Israeli military positions with massive artillery and missile strikes. Any war scenarios will pulverize Israel to bits.ten thousand US soldiers on their soil can't catch flying missiles.They can shoot a lot of civilians,though.

parthenon · « **Reply #16 on:** January 29, 2012, 04:44:18 PM »

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reza18:
...They haven't used jet fighters or helicopters like Qaddafi did during the early days of the Libyan chaos which justified the UN no-fly-zone...

You're right. I've been wondering about that.

In the meantime however, pipelines get blown up, the economy is spiraling out of control, the "rebels" have reached the outskirts of Damascus and even Aleppo isn't safe anymore.

On top of that there's already talk of dragging Syria before the UN General Assembly (UNGA) to bypass another UNSC veto.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniting_for_Peace_Resolution
With all the Empire's kleptocrat clients and the Arab League (PGCC) bribing a bunch of the remaining members, I wouldn't be surprised if they manage to get the necessary votes.
The Russians (and Chinese) know this so sooner or later they have to compromise or risk much tougher measures from the UNGA.

parthenon · « **Reply #17 on:** January 29, 2012, 04:57:22 PM »

BTW, if there ever was an opportunity to *S*T*F*U* Iran's nuclear detractors once and for all with a surprise presentation of the 20% enriched plates... well, now would be the time !!!

Jonk89 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 29, 2012, 05:57:58 PM »

Who do you guys think those rebels are. All Syrians? I think not. Those so called rebels are israelis, Americans, British, and saudis. Only small portion of these rebels are Syrians. They are camouflaging themselves under the term "rebels". It is their new tactics, so the world do not condemn them and call them warmongers. What is really happening in Syria is an asymmetric warfare conducted by above said countries and several others in the name of the Syrian rebels. It is one of the reasons that U.S deployed over 27000 troops to israel. Do you think that NATO is so concern with some Syrians or Libyans getting killed to call for no flight zone and air struck. They do this when they see their own troops are getting killed and they are about losing their footing in those countries. Syria is not dealing with some rebels. She is dealing with full range of international troops in her country. In addition, by using this tactic, they will undermined the treaty signed between Iran and Syria because in the surface, there would not be a classical foreign troops invasion. It is the time for Syria to unleash the hell on these troops with all she has in her disposal. At this point, Syria cannot afford playing cat and mouse game with these forces, otherwise she will end up like Libya.

UNFoce · « **Reply #19 on:** January 29, 2012, 07:05:47 PM »

People hate those that prophesy. Moreover, looking at the history of US military nothing has ever stopped them except jungle warfare where people have to shut their mouths and listen to the surroundings. Also, the blindness to the power the US military is laughable. Who is their sane minds would take on the world police? However, your intution might be righteous to the beat that invading foreign countries voliates national sovereingty, but justice must be upheld in the eye of the world if a nation does not comply with the minds of world leaders.

UNFoce · « **Reply #20 on:** January 29, 2012, 07:07:55 PM »

Quote from: reza18 on January 28, 2012, 08:09:51 AM

NATO/US military runs on long fuel supply lines...Dedicate a special team to target these facilities and they'll be crippled in no time in a war scenario..

Iran can do this..But not without suffering some heavy blows herself..War is a game of strategy..It's important to make it as costly as possible for your opponent..Once he realizes the cost is too high to bare, he opts to "diplomacy"..In all this calculations, I'm of the opinion that Iran's in an advantageous position ie home turf advantage..

You're right that smart warfare is used to by depleting the opponent's resources.

reza18 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 29, 2012, 07:44:38 PM »

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Who do you guys think those rebels are. All Syrians? I think not. Those so called rebels are israelis, Americans, British, and saudis. Only small portion of these rebels are Syrians. They are camouflaging themselves under the term "rebels". It is their new tactics, so the world do not condemn them and call them warmongers. What is really happening in Syria is an asymmetric warfare conducted by above said countries and several others in the name of the Syrian rebels. It is one of the reasons that U.S deployed over 27000 troops to israel. Do you think that NATO is so concern with some Syrians or Libyans getting killed to call for no flight zone and air struck. They do this when they see their own troops are getting killed and they are about losing their footing in those countries. Syria is not dealing with some rebels. She is dealing with full range of international troops in her country. In addition, by using this tactic, they will undermined the treaty signed between Iran and Syria because in the surface, there would not be a classical foreign troops invasion. It is the time for Syria to unleash the hell on these troops with all she has in her disposal. At this point, Syria cannot afford playing cat and mouse game with these forces, otherwise she will end up like Libya.

You're right..I think Assad is hoping for a negotiated solution to the problem and is going forward with his reform program..The Saudi/US/Qatari/Turkish/French/Zionist/Jordanian/UK/Salafi Jihadi/Harriri backed rebels don't want the reform program to succeed that's why they're causing a lot of chaos.

The Syrian army is also not prepared for urban conflict.They're trained to fight in classic warfare.Assad can wipe out these thugs for good but not when the whole world's media's attention is on Syria - thanks to Al-Jazeera, BBC, Sky News etc.

I'd say the best time to wipe them out is during the London Olympics, when the whole world's attention will be on the games and not Syria.

Let me put it plainly.Syria's basically been punished for its alliance with Iran, Hezbollah and other resistance groups in the region. The PGCC Sheiks see themselves as rulers of all Arabs anywhere in the region..They believe if they manage to take down Syria, they can weaken Iran's reach in Lebanon and Iraq.This is a do or die matter for them. They don't mind making deals with the Zionist to achieve any of their goals..To them, All Arab states must be ruled by Sunnis - anything else is not welcomed.

With all the chaos going on, I just wonder where the Syrian special forces are??? What happened to all their intelligence agencies in those rebels areas? I'm sure they know who's leading them and where they're hiding.They can conduct a massive night raids, when the rebels are most vulnerable to flush them out. It's just amazing how the rebels are able to kill dozens of Syrian troops almost everyday. Iran can't do much either as this is an internal matter. The Zionist know they cannot attack Syria from outside so their best option is internal destabilization to the point where the government collapse..They're making every effort to bribe high ranking officials to defect into Turkey.

Jonk89 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 29, 2012, 07:52:51 PM »

Quote from: UNFoce on January 29, 2012, 07:05:47 PM

People hate those that prophesy. Moreover, looking at the history of US military nothing has ever stopped them except jungle warfare where people have to shut their mouths and listen to the surroundings. Also, the blindness to the power the US military is laughable. Who is their sane minds would take on the world police? However, your intution might be righteous to the beat that invading foreign countries voliates national sovereingty, but justice must be upheld in the eye of the world if a nation does not comply with the minds of world leaders.

I have no clue what you are trying to say or what your are talking about.

Rakhsh786 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 30, 2012, 12:00:45 PM »

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In the meantime however, pipelines get blown up, the economy is spiraling out of control, the "rebels" have reached the outskirts of Damascus and even Aleppo isn't safe anymore.

On top of that there's already talk of dragging Syria before the UN General Assembly (UNGA) to bypass another UNSC veto.

No panic, brother. The terrorists in Syria haven't really "reached" Damascus or Aleppo, in the sense that they do not control any portion of Syrian territory. It's not like they would have conquered land, and would be "closing in" on the capital now. It's just that certain suburbs of Damascus or Aleppo have seen terrorist activity. And not just now - NATO mercenaries had been active in these areas since the beginning of the crisis. Don't buy the western spin put on the news coming out of Damascus or Aleppo.

Concerning the UNGA, it has almost no authority, as its resolutions aren't binding to member states.

Jonk89 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 30, 2012, 02:04:37 PM »

Quote from: Rakhsh786 on January 30, 2012, 12:00:45 PM

No panic, brother. The terrorists in Syria haven't really "reached" Damascus or Aleppo, in the sense that they do not control any portion of Syrian territory. It's not like they would have conquered land, and would be "closing in" on the capital now. It's just that certain suburbs of Damascus or Aleppo have seen terrorist activity. And not just now - NATO mercenaries had been active in these areas since the beginning of the crisis. Don't buy the western spin put on the news coming out of Damascus or Aleppo.

Concerning the UNGA, it has almost no authority, as its resolutions aren't binding to member states.

Thanks for the update