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US miffed as Israel hints at unilateral strike on Iran N-sites
« on: January 23, 2012, 06:55:31 AM »
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LONDON: Israel could launch a unilateral strike on Iran's nuclear facilities without much prior notice to its closest ally for over 60 year, US, according to information reaching here from Tel Aviv.

While the Israeli leadership has signaled support for US president Barack Obama in his re-election bid by urging Jewish voters in America to vote for him, Israel's defence minister Ehud Barak is said to have told general Martin Dempsey, chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff, that Israel will give the US no more than 12 hours notice before it ventures to demolish Iran's nuclear installations.

Barak's message to Dempsey followed what Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu had told Obama: that an early warning of Israel's intentions would not be available to the US. The Israeli army's elite 35th Paratroopers Brigade is training for a longrange operation for some time, so as to be prepared for military action against Iran's nuclear plants.

Expressing its displeasure at the non-cooperation , US has cancelled a joint antimissile exercise with Israel, which had been planned for April. On Monday, foreign ministers of the EU are expected to ban Iranian oil imports as part of efforts to tighten sanctions on Tehran.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/US-miffed-as-Israel-hints-at-unilateral-strike-on-Iran-N-sites/articleshow/11596982.cms

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Re: US miffed as Israel hints at unilateral strike on Iran N-sites
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2012, 08:55:04 AM »
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They can't..I really wish they actually carry out their threat..What they're doing is their typical "Hold me back or I'll attack" in order to put more pressure on the US/EU to put more sanctions on Iran..It seems to work all the time..

They have the West by the balls..Typical Zionist blackmail strategy...

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Re: US miffed as Israel hints at unilateral strike on Iran N-sites
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2012, 02:45:59 PM »
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At this point, it would the best that can happen to Iran if Zionists attack. In fact I think many Americans would like that too since that would finish off the Zionist entity and as such the US is freed financially, politically and militarily.


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Re: US miffed as Israel hints at unilateral strike on Iran N-sites
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 04:32:24 PM »
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At this point, it would the best that can happen to Iran if Zionists attack. In fact I think many Americans would like that too since that would finish off the Zionist entity and as such the US is freed financially, politically and militarily.


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I wish they would attack Iran too but the problem is that they don't have the balls to do it. What do you expect from a country that one of its largest city is know as the gay capital of the world, It is what they are famous for. That speaks of their military.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2012, 04:42:18 PM by Jonk89 »

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US miffed as Israel hints at unilateral strike on Iran N-sites
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2012, 01:08:11 AM »
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Of course, I have no inside knowledge whether Iran is working towards a nuclear weapon capability.   But I have serious worries about Israel since it believes that Iran is working towards such a weapon.

Israel's actions are best understood if one accepts that it is an extremely paranoid nation in terms of its neighbours around the Middle East.   They have had nuclear weapons since the end of the 1960s, although none have actually had test explosions.   They have had the capability to launch photoreconnaissance satellites since 1995 and thus spy on its Middle East neighbours.   And Israel wants to deny these capabilities to others in the Middle East.

Whenever a satellite is launched for or by (in the case of Iran), Israel immediately identifies it as a "spy satellite", whether or not the satellite has a reconnaissance capability.   Although Middle East imaging satellites have been launched - including those from Iran - none of them have come close to providing the ground resolution from the imaging system which is essential for useful photoreconnaissance.   Therefore, Israel's claims that these are "spy satellites" should be seen as paranoid hype.

One should also remember that Israel is currently operating the Ofeq 5, 7 and 9 photoreconnaissance satellites in orbit, together with the Ofeq 8/TecSAR radar reconnaissance satellite.   Not to forget the dual-role civil/milirary imaging satellites, EROS-A 1 and EROS B.

A concern of mine is that Israel's missiles might allow it a very limited anti-satellite capability and thus it decide to shoot down a satellite launched by Iran if the satellite is seen by Israel as being a realistic strategic threat by providing useful reconnaissance information.

Similarly, on the nuclear side, I very much doubt that the United States would want to get involved in an attack against Iran, although they might give tacit appropval and support for such action against Israel.   (A Republican in the White House would make such support more likely than a Democrat, in my view.)   Israel seems to consider it is a law unto itself and "to hell with what the rest of the world thinks".   Such an attack would be a major mistake by Israel since it would inflame the Middle East against Israel much more than it is at present, although since Israel is so well-armed I doubt that the combined non-Israeli Middle East countries could defeat Israel.

We live in dangerous times and a paranoid country makes the times even more dangerous.

Of course, there will be plenty of people who will disagree with these thoughts.

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Re: US miffed as Israel hints at unilateral strike on Iran N-sites
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2012, 01:46:38 AM »
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Bullshit.

The US wouldn't approve of the attack, it only supplied, the weapons, the means, the technology, and the infrastructure to help carry it out.

This sounds like Israel's going to attack Iran and the US will wag its finger at Israel, pretending it had nothing to do with the decision, so Israel absorbs whatever fallout results, the US government gets of scott free in the eyes of the world, and can continue supporting Israel with impunity even if others' nations choose not to.

I will believe it when the US government demonstrably stands against Israel, politically, economically, and even militarily.
Until then, any strike on behalf of Israel, the blame is multiplied to apply as well to the US govt..

From what I can perceive, All this 'fallout' in relations is song and dance for the idiotic masses to consume. What has changed in terms of what really matters? The business, military, and industrial ties? Absolutely nothing. Words are free, and are thus the least valuable indicator of intention and alignment.

Regardless, on one hand, I think it would be excellent for Iran to be attacked by Israel, especially with a tactical nuke. While of course I wish no lives to be lost or infrastructure destroyed, it would be all that Iran needs to justifiably say, to hell with a peaceful nuke program.

At the same time, from historical precedent I don't think the Israelis, while prone to idiocy, would undertake such actions without carefully planning a strategy and considering all contingencies.

So I am not sure what to expect in this context.
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US miffed as Israel hints at unilateral strike on Iran N-sites
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2012, 03:12:42 AM »
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They should just play with Hezbollah...and leave the big games for the big boys.  :)

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US miffed as Israel hints at unilateral strike on Iran N-sites
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2012, 03:57:31 AM »
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Israel can't do shit. Israel is weaker than the web of a spider. We dont even consider Israel a threat!
Israel is nothing without fat-momma-USA breastfeeding it (military aide) and changing its diapers (vetoing every UN resolution against it)
it's time to nut up or shut up!

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Re: US miffed as Israel hints at unilateral strike on Iran N-sites
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2012, 08:53:37 AM »
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All the talk from the little Zionist shit heads in Tel Aviv is to redirect the world's attention from their settlement construction and also to put pressure of the Europeans and Americans to fight their wars for them..They're inherently cowards who'll do all the talking but never lift a finger to help when the shit hits the fan..It is evident, that without the help of uncle Scam, they won't survive a day in any real war..

What they're good at is pin-prick actions like assassinations and bombing defenceless civilians to influence and claiming innocence afterwards..

There's this Iranian blogger who's laid out a very convincing plan..Please check it out..

http://alireza-forghani.blogfa.com/post-80.aspx ..Iran should warn them on their threats and call them on their bluff and instead launch a pre-emptive strike on all their military targets..It's a small piece of land and won't be hard to reach..

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US miffed as Israel hints at unilateral strike on Iran N-sites
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2012, 05:17:58 PM »
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They have had nuclear weapons since the end of the 1960s, although none have actually had test explosions. 

I read somewhere they tested nuclear weapons in South Africa, during the apartheid era, of course. Also, the zionist regime is historically a major WMD proliferator, since the South African apartheid regime owed its development of nuclear weapons largely to Israeli assistance. No wonder, one apartheid regime cooperating with another.

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Re: US miffed as Israel hints at unilateral strike on Iran N-sites
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2012, 05:41:32 PM »
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I read somewhere they tested nuclear weapons in South Africa, during the apartheid era, of course. Also, the zionist regime is historically a major WMD proliferator, since the South African apartheid regime owed its development of nuclear weapons largely to Israeli assistance. No wonder, one apartheid regime cooperating with another.


To add to that, US and Britian were slave owners and have committed numerous genocides on the American continent (both north and south) and they all cooperate with each other because they know once the world wakes up to the mess they have created, it will mean their end.
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