Author Topic: Armenian–Azerbaijani conflict (Read 3289 times)

Pasdar · « **Reply #50 on:** February 21, 2010, 08:07:22 AM »

Quote from: shiaben on February 20, 2010, 03:37:17 AM

I blame the Muslims, in the Indian situation. Ghandi was friends with the Muslim representative but he back stabbed the Indian nation. However, Muslims and Hindus and Sikhs had civil wars, so tensions were not going away, as promised.

Quote from: shiaben on February 20, 2010, 09:03:18 PM

India is better today than it was years back. They have had Muslim, Sikh, Hindu, presidents, prime ministers, and other important members of govt. A Hindu woman VP a Muslim. That shows how strong they are. One day they will get rid of fanatic Hindus and Muslims, who raze peoples villages, same applies to fanatic Sikhs who carry knives with them for "protection" but end up slitting peoples throats.

These people now rule India:


Final Solution (1/2) - Hindu Terrorists in India	Small \| Large


Final Solution (2/2) - Hindu Terrorists in India	Small \| Large

ASQ-1918 · « **Reply #51 on:** February 22, 2010, 09:14:34 PM »

Kerman, I see that your continuing your duty here.

Karabakh...First of all, its not only Karabakh being occupied, but 7 districts around it aswell wich was totally innhabited by Azeris. Bear in mind that actual Nagorno or Upper Karabakh are not connected to Armenia. Nagorno Karabakh itself was 30-40% Azeri before the war. Places like Shusha, Aghdam etc...were all dominant Azeri settlements.

So Armenians being the majority there cannot be a discussion.

And thanks to all others supporting us in this case.

ASQ-1918 · « **Reply #52 on:** February 22, 2010, 09:16:48 PM »

Quote from: Kermanshahi on February 19, 2010, 06:03:22 PM

Karabakh is not diaspora, this has always been Armenian populated territory. The Russians gave it to the Azerbaijan SSR as autonomous regeon

Not only that its incorrect, but even the area now wich is between Nakhchivan and Azerbaijan proper was given to Armenians.

Wich we call as Zengezur or Sevan. Wich shall be returned after Karabakh.

ASQ-1918 · « **Reply #53 on:** February 22, 2010, 09:25:22 PM »

"Armenians reacted by protecting themselfes from genocidal maniacs and liberating their occupied land."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khojaly_Massacre

Who is Genocidal?

ASQ-1918 · « **Reply #54 on:** February 22, 2010, 09:27:01 PM »

Armenian Animals...

Shirazi · « **Reply #55 on:** February 22, 2010, 09:37:31 PM »

I don't understand why you guys think it is your land. It was never part of Azerbaijan, you only became a country in 1991 and from the first day of your independence, this land has belonged to Armenia.

ASQ-1918 · « **Reply #56 on:** February 22, 2010, 09:42:14 PM »

Quote from: Shirazi on February 22, 2010, 09:37:31 PM

I don't understand why you guys think it is your land. It was never part of Azerbaijan, you only became a country in 1991 and from the first day of your independence, this land has belonged to Armenia.

Maybe you should go and learn history before talking like that. Azerbaijan as a country was first established in 1918. Also being the first ever Secular and Democratic Muslim country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijan_Democratic_Republic

The Azerbaijan Democratic Republic (ADR; Azerbaijani: Azərbaycan Xalq Cümhuriyyəti) was the first successful attempt to establish a modern parliamentary republic in the Muslim world (pre-dating the Republic of Turkey).[1] The ADR was founded on May 28, 1918 after the collapse of the Russian Empire that began with the Russian Revolution of 1917 by Azerbaijani National Council in Tiflis[2].

And Karabakh was part of that Republic (1918). Not only Karabakh, but the region now between Nakhchivan and Azerbaijan + areas north of Sevan lake. Wich were given to Armenians after Bolshevik invasion and are part of Armenia now.

Morover, Karabakh was part of Azerbaijan SSR aswell and after the 1991 independence, officially it was recognized as part of Azerbaijan Republic. Its officialy under occupation of Armenian armed forces.

Any more questions?

Shirazi · « **Reply #57 on:** February 22, 2010, 09:54:35 PM »

Ok fine, you can say that Karabakh belonged to Azerbaijan in 1918, but i can also say that Azerbaijan belonged to Iran in 1812, so if you claim that Karabakh is yours you should also claim that Azerbiajan belongs to Iran. My point being, 1918 was a long time ago, i think you should learn to let go.

By the way, if Azerbaijan tries invading Armenia, you can be sure that Iran will be more than willing to teach your Zionist loving President a lesson.

ASQ-1918 · « **Reply #58 on:** February 22, 2010, 10:06:49 PM »

Karabakh are still part of Azerbaijan. Officiallly recognized as Azerbaijan's territority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagorno-Karabakh

"The territory is internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan"

You said that how "we" can claim Karabakh when Azerbaijan was not a country before 1991, I proved you Azerbaijan was a country in 1918 and Karabakh was a part of it.

If we claimed the 1918 borders, then we would claim modern day southern and northeastern Armenia. But we don't, we just want what is ours, Karabakh, wich is officially a part of Azerbaijan.

Now if you don't get it, then...

ASQ-1918 · « **Reply #59 on:** February 22, 2010, 10:08:57 PM »

"By the way, if Azerbaijan tries invading Armenia, you can be sure that Iran will be more than willing to teach your Zionist loving President a lesson."

Invading Armenia? Why should we invade Armenia? We will just kick Armenians from our occupied territorities.

The zionist are you and your kinds. Hypocrite bunch. You are even threating a Muslim country against Christian one here and then talk about "Zionist" thing.

And yeah sure.

Shirazi · « **Reply #60 on:** February 22, 2010, 10:19:07 PM »

Quote from: ASQ-1918 on February 22, 2010, 10:08:57 PM

"By the way, if Azerbaijan tries invading Armenia, you can be sure that Iran will be more than willing to teach your Zionist loving President a lesson."

Invading Armenia? Why should we invade Armenia? We will just kick Armenians from our occupied territorities.

The zionist are you and your kinds. Hypocrite bunch. You are even threating a Muslim country against Christian one here and then talk about "Zionist" thing.

And yeah sure.

Care to address my first post?

aryana · « **Reply #61 on:** February 22, 2010, 10:24:06 PM »

azerbayjan sould learn that we are not giving our part to them and maby taking a little back sometimes too

ASQ-1918 · « **Reply #62 on:** February 22, 2010, 10:28:56 PM »

Quote from: aryana on February 22, 2010, 10:24:06 PM

azerbayjan sould learn that we are not giving our part to them and maby taking a little back sometimes too

Not that I don't support reunification of both above and belox Araxes under one Azerbaijan, but Azerbaijan have never voiced any such claims. If you take a look at "Greater" Armenia maps, they are including big parts of Iran. And they have it in their schools.

So that is totally absurd.

aryana · « **Reply #63 on:** February 22, 2010, 10:30:08 PM »

iv head azerbayjan is funding separtist gorops in iran

Catsoo · « **Reply #64 on:** February 22, 2010, 10:32:43 PM »

Warning: This thread will be locked and warning will be given to those who continue to flame!

If you cannot discuss this subject or any other courteously here, then don't!

Catsoo

aryana · « **Reply #65 on:** February 22, 2010, 10:34:10 PM »

sorry catsoo you mean me i did not mean to flame

Shirazi · « **Reply #66 on:** February 22, 2010, 10:44:33 PM »

Quote from: ASQ-1918 on February 22, 2010, 10:28:56 PM

Not that I don't support reunification of both above and belox Araxes under one Azerbaijan, but Azerbaijan have never voiced any such claims. If you take a look at "Greater" Armenia maps, they are including big parts of Iran. And they have it in their schools.

So that is totally absurd.

Don't be a hypocrite, you just posted a map a couple of days ago that showed an Independent Azerbaijan, Baluchistan, Kurdistan and Arabistan.

Voicing support for separation of parts of Iran is against forum rules, and i have reported you.

aryana · « **Reply #67 on:** February 22, 2010, 10:46:26 PM »

so it was not me

i dont know if we have a cat in armenian azerbayjan fight but we have to do our best in our region to keep things calm for economic and other reasons

ASQ-1918 · « **Reply #68 on:** February 22, 2010, 10:53:37 PM »

Quote from: Shirazi on February 22, 2010, 10:44:33 PM

Don't be a hypocrite, you just posted a map a couple of days ago that showed an Independent Azerbaijan, Baluchistan, Kurdistan and Arabistan.

Voicing support for separation of parts of Iran is against forum rules, and i have reported you.

Only posts of mine in this forum have been in this thread and I have never posted a map.

Secondly, that has nothing to do with this place if I ever posted a such thing in any other places.

Now you lost a argument, get over it.

ASQ-1918 · « **Reply #69 on:** February 22, 2010, 10:56:18 PM »

Quote from: aryana on February 22, 2010, 10:30:08 PM

iv head azerbayjan is funding separtist gorops in iran

It dosen't, really dosen't. If it did, Iran would have a faar more headache regarding the issue.

Shirazi · « **Reply #70 on:** February 22, 2010, 11:06:32 PM »

Quote from: ASQ-1918 on February 22, 2010, 10:53:37 PM

Only posts of mine in this forum have been in this thread and I have never posted a map.

Secondly, that has nothing to do with this place if I ever posted a such thing in any other places.

Now you lost a argument, get over it.

On ****.***, now can you please answer my question?

ASQ-1918 · « **Reply #71 on:** February 22, 2010, 11:13:59 PM »

What is your question?

Shirazi · « **Reply #72 on:** February 22, 2010, 11:17:19 PM »

Quote from: ASQ-1918 on February 22, 2010, 11:13:59 PM

What is your question?

Forget it.

Can someone please close this flame bait of-a-thread?

Catsoo · « **Reply #73 on:** February 23, 2010, 06:02:13 AM »

ASQ-1918,

I admit not having read the whole thread, however, I think you also should pay attention to the recent history too as you expect others here. I clearly remember how Iran as a country was holding out hands when Azerbaijan was free and left by the Soviets. However, Iran's hand was bitten more than once since then and as such Iran paid more favoring attention to Armenia. It is no secret that both Azerbaijan and Armenia are historically and culturally very close. But what do you expect Iran to have done when consistently Iran's interests were not paid attention to. Even worse, Azerbaijan actively cooperated with Iranian enemies even in military and espionage spheres.

Perhaps a simple understanding on your side can be reached if you pay attention how pissed of you are at Iranian close cooperation with Armenia.

As an Iranian, I strongly believe that we must have very close relations with your country and Armenia. But if a party is working against your interests what else can be expected? What does your common sense tell you?

catsoo

shiaben · « **Reply #74 on:** February 23, 2010, 07:43:47 AM »

Even worse, Azerbaijan actively cooperated with Iranian enemies even in military and espionage spheres.

This event happened, afterward from what I remember. After the Azerbaijanis found Iran helping Armenia with electricity and food.