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Offline sami86

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UNITED NATIONS: North Korea and Iran have shared ballistic missile technology, according to a UN sanctions report which China has sought to block, diplomats said Sunday.

A Chinese representative on the UN panel of experts on North Korea nuclear sanctions refused to sign off on the report, which said prohibited material was moved through a "neighboring third country".

The country is not named in the report, excerpts of which were passed to AFP, but diplomats said it was China, the isolated north's closest ally.

The UN Security Council imposed sanctions against North Korea after two nuclear tests in 2006 and 2009. It is banned from dealing in nuclear and ballistic material.

"Prohibited ballistic missile-related items are suspected to have been transferred between the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and the Islamic Republic of Iran on regular scheduled flights of Air Koryo and Iran Air," the report said.

Air Koryo and Iran Air are the national airlines of North Korea and Iran. Both countries face UN sanctions over their nuclear programs.

North Korea's international nuclear exchanges have faced growing examination from the United Nations and western countries.

China sought to block a previous sanctions panel report on North Korea. The New York Times said the Chinese expert had refused to sign the new report following political pressure from Beijing.

The experts' report has been sent to all 15 members of the Security Council. It can only be released when there is unanimous agreement.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/north-korea-and-iran-have-shared-ballistic-missile-technology-un-report/articleshow/8344417.cms

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A bogus attempt to ban Iran Air from landing in their countries with more illegal resolutions.

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I don't much doubt the validity of the report so much as it puzzles me why it's making any news. I never saw any evidence either nation cared much about the sanctions, certainly not enough to stop any trade.

The main "evidence" believed to be in the report is the fact that the NoDong missiles N.Korea paraded last year have warheads almost if not identical to those seen on Iranian Shahab-3s for some years now (called the "triconic" warhead). The missiles themselves weren't identical (the NoDongs on parade looked shorter than Iran's Shahab-3B and Ghadr-1), mainly the warhead.
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Iran denies missile co-op with N. Korea

Iran has dismissed reports that the country has received ballistic missile technology or components from North Korea.

“Iran is self-sufficient in missile production and doesn't need any outside technology,” IRNA quoted Iran's Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast as saying at a regular news briefing in the capital Tehran on Tuesday.

Mehmanparast made the comments in reaction to recent anti-Iran allegations that ballistic missile-related items are suspected to have been transferred between North Korea and Iran.

The senior Iranian official also noted that UN Security Council sanctions imposed on Iran have not slowed the country's progress on its nuclear program.

He reiterated that Iran's nuclear program is merely civilian and is moving forward “without challenges.” Mehmanparast stated that Iran is constantly in touch with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and all of the country's nuclear activities are under the watch of the IAEA.

The United States, Israel, and some of their allies accuse Tehran of pursuing military objectives in its nuclear program.

Yet, as a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and a member of the International Atomic Energy Agency, Iran has the right to develop and acquire nuclear technology meant for peaceful purposes.

In addition, the IAEA has conducted numerous inspections of Iran's nuclear facilities but has never found any evidence showing that Iran's civilian nuclear program has been diverted to nuclear weapons production.

http://presstv.com/detail/180343.html

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What, if any, negative aspects would such a cooperation have? Other than the bad PR, I really see nothing wrong with it. Better cooperate with the Godless commies of the North than the spineless Jews of the South.

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Iranian DM Rejects West's Claims on Tehran-Pyongyang Missile Cooperation

TEHRAN (FNA)- Iranian Defense Minister Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi rejected the western states' allegations that Tehran has imported technology from North Korea to develop its ballistic missile program.

"Iran is completely self-sufficient in the field of defense industry and does not need other countries and nothing has been exchanged between us in this field," General Vahidi told reporters at the end of a cabinet meeting on Wednesday.

Earlier, Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehman-Parast had also dismissed media allegations in this regard as fabricated propaganda, cautioning that enemies attempt to pursue their plots against Iran and North Korea through such reports.

On Tuesday, China also played down a report that pointed to it as a trans-shipment point for banned missile technology and other illicit trade between North Korea and Iran.

The report was submitted to the Security Council last week by a UN Panel of Experts, a group that monitors compliance with UN sanctions imposed on Pyongyang after it conducted nuclear tests in 2006 and 2009.

The alleged report claimed that North Korea appeared to have been exchanging ballistic missile technology and expertise with Iran in violation of Security Council sanctions.

The Chinese Foreign Ministry said the document did not have the authority of the Security Council and that Beijing scrupulously upheld punitive UN measures against North Korea.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9002280512

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What, if any, negative aspects would such a cooperation have? Other than the bad PR, I really see nothing wrong with it. Better cooperate with the Godless commies of the North than the spineless Jews of the South.

IR is cooperating with both of them and considers both of them as friendly nations. The fact is they will unite and most Koreans believe it will happen, just the circumstances are not viable right now.

I know many south Koreans, they are some of the nicest people you'll ever meet.  They are very united and understand that the North Koreans love their country as well.

But i have to tell you, they believe in some ridiculous propaganda.

A bogus attempt to ban Iran Air from landing in their countries with more illegal resolutions.

You really don't think N.Korea and Iran are cooperating militarily?

All indications show that they are and Eagle is right, it's not like either Iran or N.Korea or China care much for the sanctions.

Soon sanctions will become absolutely meaningless once our Navy starts to kick into high gear and the Chinese send out their aircraft carriers.
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YMJ,

I wouldn't go quite that far. For one, most evidence shows even the Chinese enforce the embargo against N.Korea most of the time. This is largely because most indications are N.Korea is becoming more of a problem for China than they are worth and should things continue as they have in the future this trend with continue. N.Korea was once worth a good deal of strategic value to China when there was large force of US troops in S.Korea but those days have long passed since the US troop presence in the South shrinks every year and now is only a symbolic force. Also China has a great deal of economic ties to South Korea unlike the North. China's support for the North dwindles every year simply because China is no longer getting anything out of their support for the North except international grief and thousands of North Korea refugees.

Iran on the other hand is a different issue for the Chinese. They also seem to enforce the sanctions against Iran most of the time but are more willing to slip a few deals when no one is looking likely because there are advantages to having economic and military ties to Iran.

So publically the Chinese do support the sanctions against both nations, the difference being in private the Chinese are likely much more willing to ignore them for Iran than they are for N.Korea.

And when it comes to the "someday" part, that is going to be a while still. Most indications are the Chinese will keep their first few carriers at home where are they needed most and not deploy them abroad as the US does, at least not for long periods of time nor on permanent basis. Not until their carrier fleets become more numerous (say 2030 or so). Strictly my opinion though.

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A bogus attempt to ban Iran Air from landing in their countries with more illegal resolutions.

After reading all the comments about this news here.
I believe the only logical reason behind this new attempt by the west to bring this matter before UNSC is to ban Iran Air to further isolate Iran and to increase the cost of not obeying the west and continuing with its nuclear program(as they put it in their mainstream media).

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'Iran, DPRK have no missile cooperation'


Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Alexander Lukashevich

Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich has ruled out any cooperation between Iran and North Korea in the field of missile technology.

Lukashevich said Russia has no information on military cooperation, including the development of missile technology, between Iran and the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK).

“There is no verifiable information that Iran and DPRK cooperate or exchange missile technologies in violation of UN sanctions,” he added.

Earlier in May, a leaked report suggested that Iran and North Korea have been trading ballistic missile technology on regular flights.

The report was submitted to the UN Security Council by an expert panel that has been monitoring the North Korea's compliance with UN sanctions since 2006.

“Such suggestions have been made by various experts judging from visual characteristics of the missiles these countries possess,” Lukashevich said. “This is not credible evidence.”

The diplomat called it “absolutely intolerable” that classified reports prepared by UN experts have been made public.

He said the reports were deliberately made confidential not to allow any incorrect interpretation of the sensitive facts they contained.

On Tuesday, Iran's Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast dismissed the reports and stressed the country's self-sufficiency in the field of missile production and said Iran “doesn't need any outside technology.”

On Wednesday, Iranian Defense Minister Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi rejected UN claims about the cooperation of Iran and North Korea in their missile programs.

“We are completely self-sufficient in this field and nothing has been exchanged between us (Iran and North Korea) in this regard,” Vahidi said.

http://presstv.com/detail/180871.html

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I find it quite strange that the report is not yet "out there", in contrast to "secret" IAEA reports on Iran.

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Actually someone posted a report like this or something very similar on the ArmsControlWonk website..But it just had claims, no actual evidence.

Further, the Russians may technically be telling the truth. It's quite possible the Shahab-3B's "triconic" warhead could have be passed back to N.Korea many years ago (since that warhead design was first seen nearly a decade ago).

That and the Russians are probably still avoiding questions about how the R-27 SLBM design found it's way to North Korea which I am sure they deny. It's fairly well know the N.Koreans went around the Soviets back to get the Scud design (importing examples from Egypt for R&D), but the R-27 was never exported so the only way it could have gotten to them is someone from the company that designed it sold the specs to N.Korea with or without Russian government approval.

 

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