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تذکرجدی سرلشکر صالحی به ناوگان دریایی آمریکا
هشدار می‌دهیم ناو هواپیمابر آمریکا به خلیج فارس برنگردد/فقط یک‌بار تذکر می‌دهیم

خبرگزاری فارس: فرمانده کل ارتش با اشاره به خروج ناو هواپیمابر آمریکایی از خلیج فارس به دریای عمان همزمان با رزمایش دریایی ولایت 90 به آنها تذکر داد که توصیه می‌کنیم این ناو به خلیج فارس برنگردد چرا که ما فقط به تذکر بسنده نخواهیم کرد.
خبرگزاری فارس: هشدار می‌دهیم ناو هواپیمابر آمریکا به خلیج فارس برنگردد/فقط یک‌بار تذکر می‌دهیم

به گزارش خبرنگار اعزامی خبرگزاری فارس، امیرسرلشکر عطاءالله صالحی فرمانده کل ارتش جمهوری اسلامی ایران در حاشیه برگزاری رژه دریایی رزمایش ولایت 90 با اشاره به آمادگی ارتش برای مقابله با هرگونه تهدیدی اظهار داشت: تجربه‌های بزرگی که ما داشتیم در عرصه دریا، مانند حضور در خلیج عدن و دریای سرخ و مدیترانه و درگیری‌هایی که در خلیج عدن داشتیم، موجب ارتقاء توان رزمی ما شده و ما در این رزمایش دستاوردها و تسلیحات بسیار مناسب و خوبی را مورد ارزیابی قرار دادیم که یکی از آنها پدافند هوایی موشکی بود که برای اولین بار با تست سامانه "محراب" توانستیم آن را به نتیجه برسانیم.

صالحی خاطرنشان کرد: این رزمایش برای تمامی کشورها چه دوست و چه دشمن دارای پیام است که دشمنان پیام را به خوبی درک کردند و در ابتدای رزمایش دیدیم که ناو هواپیمابر آمریکایی از خلیج فارس خارج و با گذر از تنگه هرمز در دریای عمان مستقر شد.

وی با بیان اینکه ما به دنبال هیچ کار غیرمنطقی نبودیم اما برای هر تهدیدی آماده هستیم،‌ گفت: به آنها توصیه، هشدار و تذکر می‌دهیم که این ناو به منطقه سابق خود در خلیج فارس برنگردد چرا که ما عادت نداریم تذکر را تکرار کنیم و فقط یکبار تذکر می‌دهیم.

فرمانده کل ارتش تصریح کرد: حرکت‌مان در دریا نه انفعالی است و نه تهاجمی بلکه برای تمرین در دریای آزاد و حفاظت از منافع جمهوری اسلامی و کشورهای اسلامی است و دوستان جمهوری اسلامی بدانند اگر در کشور برادری مثل ایران تکیه کنند بهتر از آن است که با وابستگی به کشورهای غربی و آمریکا هم حیثیت، ‌آبرو و هم پول خود را از دست بدهند.
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« Last Edit: January 03, 2012, 11:25:18 AM by maydayfire »
it's time to nut up or shut up!

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He is one of the more senior commanders if i'm not mistaking.
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He is one of the more senior commanders if i'm not mistaking.
he is the commandr of the regular armed forced (IRIAF+IRIN+IRIA+IRIAA)

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He said his warning only comes "once"..Iran will be the end of Obama's re-election bid..It's clear Obama only wants to escalate tensions but not to the point of war..This could easily backfire.Obama's silly confrontational approach with Iran may not end well for him..Here, we see the US talking themselves into yet another disastrous war.

http://presstv.com/detail/219094.html
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Iran warns US carrier off Persian Gulf
Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:49AM GMT

Commander of Iran's Army Major General Ataollah Salehi has warned a US aircraft carrier not to return to the Persian Gulf, adding that the warning comes “only once.”


General Salehi reiterated on Tuesday that Iran is ready to face any threats, and stated that we recommend and warn the aircraft not to return to its previous position in the Persian Gulf, “since we are not accustomed to repeating a warning and we warn only once.”

On December 30, 2011 the Iranian Navy identified and recorded footage and images of a US aircraft carrier in the area where Iran is currently holding its navy military exercises.

Iran's Navy launched a massive 10-day naval exercise, codenamed “Velayat 90”, on December 24. The drill covers an area stretching from the east of the Strait of Hormuz in the Persian Gulf to the Gulf of Aden.

Major General Salehi said the experiences of Iran's Navy such as its presence in the Gulf of Aden, the Red Sea and the Mediterranean Sea have enhanced the combat power of the Iranian forces.

“Our actions in sea are neither passive nor aggressive, but they are aimed at training in free waters and safeguarding the interests of Iran and Islamic countries,” the Iranian commander added.

Over the past years, Iran has made important breakthroughs in its defense sector and attained self-sufficiency in producing important military equipment and systems.

The country has repeatedly clarified that its military might is merely based on the nation's defense doctrine of deterrence and poses no threat to other countries.

MYA/MB/HJL

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If this is true, this is the strongest warning I've ever heard from Iran..Lest wait and see Obama's next move...Something big is brewing..

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Iran threatens action if U.S. carrier returns: IRNA
ReutersReuters – 3 hrs ago

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran will take action if a U.S. aircraft carrier which left the area because of Iranian naval exercises returns to the Gulf, the state news agency quoted army chief Ataollah Salehi as saying on Tuesday.

"Iran will not repeat its warning ... the enemy's carrier has been moved to the Sea of Oman because of our drill. I recommend and emphasize to the American carrier not to return to the Persian Gulf," Salehi told IRNA.

"I advise, recommend and warn them (the Americans) over the return of this carrier to the Persian Gulf because we are not in the habit of warning more than once," the semi-official Fars news agency quoted Salehi as saying.

Salehi did not name the aircraft carrier or give details of the action Iran might take if it returned.

Iran completed 10 days of naval exercises in the Gulf on Monday, and said during the drills that if foreign powers imposed sanctions on its crude exports it could shut the Strait of Hormuz, through which 40 percent of the world's traded oil is shipped.

The U.S. Fifth Fleet, which is based in Bahrain, said it would not allow shipping to be disrupted in the strait.

Iran said on Monday it had successfully test-fired two long-range missiles during its naval drill, flexing its military muscle in the face of mounting Western pressure over its controversial nuclear program.

Iran also said it had no intention of closing the Strait of Hormuz but had carried out "mock" exercises on shutting the strategic waterway.

Tehran denies Western accusations that it is secretly trying to build atomic bombs, saying it needs nuclear technology to generate electricity.

The United States and Israel have not ruled out military action against Iran if diplomacy fails to resolve the Islamic state's nuclear row with the West.

The European Union is considering following the United States in banning imports of Iranian crude oil. U.S. President Barack Obama signed new sanctions against Iran into law on Saturday, stepping up the pressure by adding sanctions on financial institutions that deal with Iran's central bank.

(Writing by Parisa Hafezi; Editing by Tim Pearce)
http://news.yahoo.com/iran-threatens-action-u-carrier-returns-irna-082124042.html

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he is the commandr of the regular armed forced (IRIAF+IRIN+IRIA+IRIAA)

What is his official title in farsi? Sar'lashkar?  سرلشکر?

So basically the other admiral habibollahi answers to him? and sarlashkar salehi answers to? Rahbar?

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If this is true, this is the strongest warning I've ever heard from Iran..Lest wait and see Obama's next move...Something big is brewing..

yeah, a revolution in America.

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I wonder if they would take out a carrier just to make a point and if they do what the reaction of America would be.

Ghader missile, could take out that carrier no?

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Ghader missile, could take out that carrier no?

You will need at least 10 Ghader to sink that beast..I've seen comments on other forum and they all seem to believe the US carriers can "finish off Iran ins 15 mins"..I almost wet my pants with laughter..

But on a more serious note, if Iran's to take out one of these beast, it has to be a well coordinated effort to attack it from all sides simultaneously..The missiles must strike the target from an angle that will be impossible for the aegis to intercept. One carrier under the sea and the US will be huffing and puffing till kingdom come..

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You will need at least 10 Ghader to sink that beast..I've seen comments on other forum and they all seem to believe the US carriers can "finish off Iran ins 15 mins"..I almost wet my pants with laughter..

But on a more serious note, if Iran's to take out one of these beast, it has to be a well coordinated effort to attack it from all sides simultaneously..The missiles must strike the target from an angle that will be impossible for the aegis to intercept. One carrier under the sea and the US will be huffing and puffing till kingdom come..

At least 10? I think one would make the carrier useless, don't you think? Of course, if you want to take it out you wouldn't just fire one, you would give it all you got, meaning fire 10-20 of them simultaneously, torpedo's from submarines, etc... all simultaneously, to render the defense of the ship obsolete and to overwhelm them.


 If the runway is damaged, the carrier is no longer useful, but i don't know a couple of things, do carriers also have AD systems, torpedo's, cannons or cruise missiles? 

I really want one tested against these stupid carriers, or something of that size to see how it does.
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What is his official title in farsi? Sar'lashkar?  سرلشکر?

So basically the other admiral habibollahi answers to him? and sarlashkar salehi answers to? Rahbar?
sar lashkar is a rank, not a position. His rank is sar lashkar (equivalent to 4 star general in western system, this is currently the highest rank in all branches of iran's armed forces) and his position is chief/commander of regular armed forces. Admiral habbibollah sayyari is the commander of IRI-Navy (IRIN) and takes orders from Salehi. Salehi gets orders from Rahbar and his top advisors like Sar lashkar Safavi.
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sar lashkar is a rank, not a position. His rank is sar lashkar (4 star general) and his position is chief/commander of regular armed forces. Admiral habbibollah sayyari is the commander of IRI-Navy (IRIN)

Thank you. What would "chief commander of regular armed forces" translate to in farsi?

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Thank you. What would "chief commander of regular armed forces" translate to in farsi?
farmandeh kolle artesh, the reason it is regular is because we have another branch in armed forces which is the IRGC (Sepah)

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farmandeh kolle artesh, the reason it is regular is because we have another branch in armed forces which is the IRGC (Sepah)

yeah, i understand we have two branches of armed forces. Now who has his position for the IRGC? The 'big boned' commander?

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Iran warns US carrier off Persian Gulf
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2012, 12:49:36 PM »
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Commander of Iran's Army Major General Ataollah Salehi has warned a US aircraft carrier not to return to the Persian Gulf, adding that the warning comes “only once.”

On December 30, 2011 the Iranian Navy identified and recorded footage and images of the USS John C. Stennis in the area where Iran is currently holding naval military exercises.

General Salehi said on Tuesday that we recommend and warn the aircraft carrier not to return to its previous position in the Persian Gulf, “since we are not in the habit of repeating a warning and we warn only once.”

The USS John C. Stennis has left the Persian Gulf and the Sea of Oman. It is one of the US navy's biggest warships. The nuclear-powered vessel carries around 3,300 personnel most of whom are air crew. It can also carry 50 fighter jets and 6 helicopters. The carrier passed through Forouzan oil platforms and Farsi Island.

Iran's Navy launched a massive 10-day naval exercise, codenamed “Velayat 90”, on December 24. The drill covers an area stretching from the east of the Strait of Hormuz in the Persian Gulf to the Gulf of Aden.

Major General Salehi said the experiences of Iran's Navy such as its presence in the Gulf of Aden, the Red Sea and the Mediterranean Sea have enhanced the combat power of the Iranian forces.

“Our actions in sea are neither passive nor aggressive, but are rather aimed at training in free waters and safeguarding the interests of Iran and Islamic countries,” the Iranian commander added.

Over the past years, Iran has made important breakthroughs in its defense sector and attained self-sufficiency in producing important military equipment and systems.

The country has repeatedly clarified that its military might is merely based on the nation's defense doctrine of deterrence and poses no threat to other countries.

MYA/GHN/MB/HJL

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Re: Iran warns US carrier off Persian Gulf
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Iran is the next military power!
I am a Muslim, kill me and call it COLLATERAL DAMAGE!
Imprison me and call it SECURITY MEASURE!
Exile my people en mass and call it NEW MIDDLE EAST!
Rob my resources call it, PROGRESS!
Corrupt my Leaders call it DEMOCRACY!

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yeah, i understand we have two branches of armed forces. Now who has his position for the IRGC? The 'big boned' commander?
IRGC cheif commander is sar lashkar aziz jafari. and the joint chief of staffs is Sar lashkar Firoozabadi which overlooks the cooperation of regular Army, IRGC and Basij. And Rahbar's top military advisor is Sar Lashkar Safavi which was the former commander of IRGC.
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ازتاب گسترده خبری اظهارات فرمانده ارتش در مورد ناو آمریکایی

خبرگزاری فارس: اظهارات سرلشگر صالحی در پایان رزمایش دریایی ۱۰ روزه نیروی دریایی ارتش در خبرگزاری‌های مهم جهان بازتاب گسترده‌ای داشت به گونه‌ای اغلب این رسانه‌ها، این خبر را در صدر اخبار مهم خود تحت پوشش قرار دادند.
خبرگزاری فارس: بازتاب گسترده خبری اظهارات فرمانده ارتش در مورد ناو آمریکایی

به گزارش فارس، شبکه فاکس نیوز با پوشش خبر رژه پایانی نیروی دریایی ارتش جمهوری اسلامی ایران نوشت: فرمانده ارتش ایران به ناو هواپیمابر آمریکا هشدار داد دیگر به خلیج فارس برنگردد.

این شبکه با اشاره به اینکه این ناو هواپیما بر از تنگه هرمز به بندر "جبل علی دوبی" رفته است نوشت: این ناو از ناوهای ناوگان پنجم آمریکا است که در خلیج فارس مستقر است.

خبرگزاری اسوشیتدپرس با قرار دادن این خبر در صدر اخبار خارجی خود نوشت: ارتش ایران به آمریکا هشدار داد ناو هواپیمابر خود را خارج از خلیج فارس نگه دارد.

این خبرگزاری به نقل از اظهارات سرلشگر صالحی نوشت: ایران تاکید کرده است که این کشتی جنگی آمریکا نباید دوباره به پایگاه سابق خود در خلیج فارس برگردد. فرمانده ارتش ایران تهدید کرده است که هشدار ایران دیگر تکرار نمی‌شود.

خبرگزاری رویترز این خبر را با تیتر "ایران به ناو آمریکا هشدار داد" پوشش داده است. رویترز نوشت: چند روز بعد از تهدید ایران مبنی بر بستن تنگه هرمز، ارتش ایران هشدار داد در صورت تکرار ورود ناو آمریکا به آبهای خلیج فارس اقدامات تهاجمی دیگری اتخاذ خواهد شد.

رویترز همچنین به نقل از فرمانده ارتش ایران نوشت: ایران عادت ندارد یک حرف را دوبار تکرار کند.

شبکه خبری سی بی اس نیوز نیز با تحت پوشش قرار دادن اظهارات فرمانده ارتش نوشت: ناو آمریکایی "یو اس اس استنیس" در طول مانور دریایی ایران در آبهای خلیج فارس به این منطقه وارد شده است. در واکنش به این اقدام، فرمانده ارتش جمهوری اسلامی ایران به حضور ناو آمریکایی در آبهای جنوب ایران واکنش نشان داد و هشدار داد این ناو آمریکایی دیگر به این منطقه برنگردد.

سی بی اس همچنین نوشت: آمریکا دارای پنج ناو هواپیمابر بود که با پایان رسمی جنگ عراق اکثر آنها از منطقه خارج شده‌اند.

پایگاه خبری فاینانشال تایمز نیز با اشاره به رزمایش دریایی ۱۰ روزه ایران و همچنین افزایش تنش در روابط غرب با ایران نوشت: ایران در مورد ورود ناو جنگی آمریکا به منطقه خلیج فارس به این کشور هشدار داد.

فانانشال تایمز با اشاره به تهدیدات ایران نوشت: این تهدیدات باعث شده است قیمت نفت روز سه شنبه به ۱۰۹ دلار برسد. این درحالیست که روز دوشنبه قیمت نفت برنت ۱۰۷ دلار بود. کارشناسان پیش بینی کردند در صورت ادامه این روند قیمت نفت بازهم افزایش خواهد یافت.

این پایگاه همچنین نوشت: ایران گفته است ما اقدام غیر منطقی نمی‌کنیم اما برای مقابله با هر تهدیدی آماده‌ایم.

پایگاه خبری گلوبال پست نیز این خبر را در صدر اخبار خود تحت پوشش قرار داد و به بررسی تهدیدات اخیر ایران در مورد تنگه هرمز و حضور ناو آمریکایی در آبهای جنوبی ایران پرداخت.

گلوبال پست با اشاره به اظهارات سرلشگر صالحی، اظهارات وی در مورد اینکه "ایران دیگر هشدار خود را تکرار نمی‌کند" را برجسته کرد.

روزنامه واشنگتن پست نوشت: در پایان رزمایش دریایی ایران فرمانده ارتش جمهوری اسلامی ایران هشدار داد ناو هواپیما بر آمریکایی نباید دوباره به آب‌های استراتژیک ایران ورود کند.

واشنگتن پست با بررسی اظهارات صالحی نوشت: این رزمایش نمایش قدرت ایران بود و توانایی ایران در بستن تنگه هرمز را نشان داد.
این پایگاه خبری با اشاره به اینکه انگیزه‌های اظهارات فرمانده ارتش ایران باید بررسی شود نوشت: دشمنان ایران باید پیام رزمایش دریایی ایران را بفهمند.

گفتنی است رسانه های از قبیل "مانی مورنینگ"، صدای آمریکا، المصری الیوم، العربیه، چاینا دیلی، سی ان بی سی و صدای اروپا نیز اخبار مربوط هشدار ایران به ناو آمریکایی را تحت پوشش قرار داده‌اند.


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maydayfire jan, could you please translate what it says?

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Iran, of course, wants the carrier in the PG, otherwise it would exceed the range of its cruise missiles.
What Iran is really suggesting to US is for it to shut down its 5th fleet in Bahrain in the future that would boost the confidence of the shia majority in Bahrain and result in the fall of one of the other US/Saudi dictatorships. If Shias take control of Bahrain, Saudi will lose control of its eastern province (where the shias are and where most of its oil fields are)
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Iran threatens action if US returns to Persian Gulf Small | Large

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This is right politics, to marginalize US fleet existence in Persian Gulf, but I don't think that Iran will take immediate actions in coming weeks.

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IRGC cheif commander is sar lashkar aziz jafari. and the joint chief of staffs is Sar lashkar Firoozabadi which overlooks the cooperation of regular Army, IRGC and Basij. And Rahbar's top military advisor is Sar Lashkar Safavi which was the former commander of IRGC.

This is really interesting regarding Sr Laskar Sfavi:

'Safavi was Born on 2 January 1958 to a lower-class Azerbaijani family (an ethnic Azeri.[1]) in Armenia, Soviet Union, Safavi was sent to Tehran, Iran as an orphan where he was raised by foster parents.'

Thanks for the info brother.

 

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