Author Topic: Iranian Navy (Read 20683 times)

Ayyash · « **Reply #50 on:** August 31, 2010, 02:21:05 AM »

To the best of my knowledge!

AminCo · « **Reply #51 on:** September 01, 2010, 02:56:25 AM »

Interesting picture of a boat.
small boat inside a bigger boat, if I am not mistaken

rouz · « **Reply #52 on:** September 01, 2010, 06:50:18 AM »

^ isn't that a jet ski?

Pasdar · « **Reply #53 on:** September 01, 2010, 07:24:15 AM »

Quote from: Barberry on September 01, 2010, 06:50:18 AM

^ isn't that a jet ski?

During war, soldiers also need some time for rest and relaxation...

PeRXeRs · « **Reply #54 on:** September 01, 2010, 03:53:32 PM »

Quote

During war, soldiers also need some time for rest and relaxation...

haha

thats really good!

eazy e · « **Reply #55 on:** September 04, 2010, 09:12:42 PM »

navel forces ? like inside ur navel ?

AminCo · « **Reply #56 on:** October 21, 2010, 05:43:27 AM »

Very interesting video:

Mowj Class Ship, 2nd Building Footage (2nd Jamaran Frigate)


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Eagle2009 · « **Reply #57 on:** October 21, 2010, 06:17:08 AM »

Very interesting video indeed...The hull seems to be largely complete so its pretty far along and certain coming along much faster than the Jamaran did. But I do have a question..From the video do we know where this is being built? There were reports that the 2nd member of the Mowj class would be built in the Caspian Sea (where the Sina class missile boats are built)..Is that where this vessel is being built?

Ruhollah · « **Reply #58 on:** October 21, 2010, 06:51:01 AM »

Quote from: Eagle2009 on October 21, 2010, 06:17:08 AM

..Is that where this vessel is being built?

Shahid Tamjidi Industries, Bandar-e Anzali (also written Bandar-e Anzelli), Northern Iran. The group is a member of the Iranian Defense Industries Organization (DIO) and of the Iranian Marine Industries Group (IR-MIG).

AminCo · « **Reply #59 on:** October 21, 2010, 07:45:56 AM »

Iran Bandar Anzali
37°28'22.88"N
49°27'52.33"E

Eagle2009 · « **Reply #60 on:** October 21, 2010, 05:33:16 PM »

Many thanks...that confirms the initial reports of the 2nd Mowj class frigate being built in the Caspian Sea. That bad thing is the last time I checked, Google Earth hasnt had any up-to-date images of Bandar Anzali since 2004 (which showed 3 Sina class missile boats in various levels of completion).

Pasdar · « **Reply #61 on:** October 22, 2010, 04:34:42 PM »

Well look at that... They're so far ahead with Mowj-2... At this rate Mowj-3 should come out in 1.5 years from now. They're working in parallel for sure.

Shirazi · « **Reply #62 on:** October 22, 2010, 04:49:21 PM »

Are they making a third one? If they are, i sure do hope that they improve on its current design and upgrade the existing one. They need to automate the 40mm Cannon and add two of them, double the number of SM-2s and Noors as well as either adding a true CIWS or the Shahab taghleb SAMs.

I'd prefer it if they stopped at two and made the third one slightly bigger, allowing it to carry more SAMs and a helicopter hanger.

farbod · « **Reply #63 on:** October 22, 2010, 05:05:05 PM »

its 3000 tons right, how big would it have to be for it to be classed as a destroyer ?

Shirazi · « **Reply #64 on:** October 22, 2010, 05:06:33 PM »

It's 1420 tons, a destroyer is around 3000 (although this is arbitrary, there is no actual requirement) but most are above 4000.

Eagle2009 · « **Reply #65 on:** October 22, 2010, 06:09:19 PM »

Indeed the definition of a Destroyer today is largely political. The Horizon class Frigates being building Europe today would be classified as a destroyer by Cold War standards but because building destroyers is somewhat provocative they call them Frigates. But traditionally, a Destroyer is at least 5000 tons or greater.

The building of Mowj class in the Caspian is still pretty interesting.

There are alot of improvements needed for the Mowj class so lets hope each is better than the last.

As to its progress, its hard to make any real estimates as to when it will become operational. This vessel still hasnt been "launched" meaning it likely doesnt have any engine yet or else it would be on the water. Even still, it was more than a year after we first saw the Jamaran on the water before it became operational. So I think it's still likely the original date for deployment (2012) stated by Iranian officials will hold true.

Ruhollah · « **Reply #66 on:** October 22, 2010, 10:04:01 PM »

I edited my post.

Points are covered here already:

Quote from: Eagle2009 on March 20, 2010, 01:54:29 AM

I have thought about this quite a bit...and These are some improvements Iran can likely make to the current Jamaran vessels and some ideas I have for realistic aspects for a future model of the Mowj class (Mowj-2 perhaps?) NOTE: this is purely speculative!

Mowj Class-Possible Upgrades

AshM- Increase to total number of Anti-shipping missiles from 4 to 8 by developing Quad launchers (which have surprisely havent been seen yet in Iran).
Guns- Possible upgrade of Fajr-27 to allow it to be controlled not just by radar but by Electro-Optic system as seen in Upgraded Bayandor class corvettes.
- Replace single barrelled manned Fath 40 system with either a turreted Twin 40mm system or Twin 35mm System (similar to original AA mount on the Alvands)

Possible Aspects for Future Mowj class:
Dimensions- Likely would be lengthened by 8-10 meters
Displacement- Likely to increase to somewhere between 1800-2000tons
AshM- at least 8 Medium-Long range missiles
Guns- Improved Fajr-27 variant with increased rate of fire to at least 100 rounds/min (compared to the current 85 rounds/min) possibly with a stealthy cupola
- At least one twin AA fully automated gun system or similar to Breda/Dardo or Twin 35mm if Foreign system like AK-630 or Type 730 is available
ASW- Retains two Triple Torpedo systems
SAM- Replace Standard missile with either 6 or 8 celled Shahab Thageb system (which could be upgraded to FM-90 standard) fitted on the stepped structure below the bridge with an semi-automatic or automatic loading system underdeck with at least 2 reloads (for a total of at least 18 missiles) which like the HQ-7 should be capable of being guided by Radar, Electro Optic, or Infared depending on situation.
Structure- Should include at least some sloped sides, a solid Radar mast (whose skin should be made out of Fiberglass/CarbonFiber) and the superstructure should be streamlined to increase space and improve radar cross section.
Aviation- Include a Helicopter Hangar to allow space for Bell 212 or Z-9 medium helos
Radar- Should include a 3D Air search system and include Surface search system with at least a 120-150km range to allow the use of C-802/Noor to its fullest range
Electronics- Should include a full set of Electro Optic and FLIR systems for better survellience

Overall: Such a design would end of looking like the Russian Gepard class frigate or a smaller version of Pakistan's F-22P frigates and would be modern enough and powerful enough to defend Iran's waters from the navies of the Gulf and even project power over fairly good distances.

Shirazi · « **Reply #67 on:** October 22, 2010, 10:09:14 PM »

Eagle already beat you to it by 6 months everything from the Quad launchers to the structure

http://www.iranmilitaryforum.net/index.php?topic=95.30

Ruhollah · « **Reply #68 on:** October 22, 2010, 10:14:40 PM »

Quote from: Shirazi on October 22, 2010, 10:09:14 PM

Eagle already beat you to it by 6 months everything from the Quad launchers to the structure

http://www.iranmilitaryforum.net/index.php?topic=95.30

Wow! He covered all my points and more.

Lur · « **Reply #69 on:** October 28, 2010, 05:55:46 AM »

what ship is this? it is not a mowj

Eagle2009 · « **Reply #70 on:** October 28, 2010, 06:01:20 AM »

That is a model of the Sahand 74, the last member of the Alvand class frigates to enter service. It was lost in combat with the US Navy as part of Operation Praying Mantis in 1988.

This model first showed up on the net many years ago and caused a big stir because people thought it was the Mowj but it didnt take long to figure out what it really was, a model in honor of the lost Sahand.

Ayyash · « **Reply #71 on:** November 02, 2010, 10:18:52 AM »

Anyone see this video when it came out?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqCtQHHQyuI&feature=player_embedded
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Eagle2009 · « **Reply #72 on:** November 02, 2010, 02:40:42 PM »

I remember the headline but not a video..great find Ayyash!

The accidents the video mentions is probably why the submarine was so 'easy' to find because its likely purposely making itself more visible as it travels through the strait to avoid accidents. Normally of course the submarine wouldn't have any part of it surfaced if it was trying to avoid detection. Since it does have part of it exposed (possibly the periscope or communication antenna) its likely doing so so it can avoid running into other vessels as it moves through the strait. Not to mention as the video pointed out, the Iranian naval forces actually communicated with the submarine inwhich they learned its origins.

IR.IRAN · « **Reply #73 on:** November 27, 2010, 12:04:38 PM »

Iran Makes First Mobile Simulator for Home-Made Submarines

TEHRAN (FNA)- The Iranian Navy unveiled the first sample of its newly produced mobile simulators for its Tareq class submarines.

"For the first time in the country Iranian experts and scientists have been able to produce a mobile simulator for Tareq class submarine in a project called 'Shabahat' (Similarity)," Commander of the Iranian Navy Rear Admiral Habibollah Sayyari said at the ceremony to unveil the simulator.

"The simulator has a 3 degree freedom of movement and is used for exercising diving and ascending as well as checking damage to the submarine," he noted.

The commander added that 16 scenarios have been designed and programmed for the simulator, which are now used in the subsurface brigade of the first naval zone.

He expressed the hope that new simulators would be built for Qadir class submarines by the end of the current Iranian year (ends on March 20, 2011).

A senior Iranian commander has lately announced that the country has gained self-sufficiency in manufacturing simulators, adding that the country now possesses more than 800 home-made simulators.

"At present more than 800 simulators have been produced and put into operation by the Defense Ministry," Lieutenant Commander of the Iranian Army Ground Force for Coordination Affairs General Mohammad Hassan Baqeri said in September.

Baqeri said Iran used to import these systems from the foreign countries, including the US and Britain, while it is now among the few countries which own the technical know-how for building them.
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8909061162

AminCo · « **Reply #74 on:** February 11, 2011, 06:09:07 PM »

[farsi]دومین ناوشکن ایرانی سال 90 آماده می شود
فرمانده نیروی دریایی ارتش جمهوری اسلامی ایران از اتمام پروژه ساخت ناوشکن جماران 2 در آینده نزدیک خبر داد.

به گزارش گروه دفاع و امنیت مشرق به نقل از ایسنا، امیر دریادار حبیب‌الله سیاری در حاشیه راهپیمایی 22 بهمن اظهار کرد: پروژه ساخت ناوشکن جماران 2 در حال پیش‌روی است و در آینده نزدیک و ان‌شاءالله در سال 90 به اتمام خواهد رسید.

وی همچنین بر اهمیت برگزاری مانورها و تمرین‌های نظامی مشترک با همکاری کشورهای منطقه تاکید کرد و افزود: همیشه برای حفظ امنیت منطقه مانورهایی را در دستور کار داریم و همواره به دنبال این هستیم که با برگزاری تمرین‌های نظامی مشترک با کشورهای منطقه، امنیت منطقه را برقرار کنیم و این توانمندی وجود دارد.

فرمانده نیروی دریایی ارتش، در ادامه به آرمان‌های انقلاب اسلامی اشاره کرد و گفت: یکی از مهمترین آرمان‌های انقلاب اسلامی، پیاده شدن اعتماد و عدل اسلامی در منطقه و در همه جای جهان بوده است.

سیاری در پایان تاکید کرد: تاکنون در دستیابی به آرمان‌های انقلاب اسلامی موفق بوده‌ایم و از این پس نیز با سرعتی که انقلاب خواهد گرفت قطعا سرعت دستیابی به این اهداف بیشتر هم خواهد شد.
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http://mashreghnews.ir/NSite/FullStory/News/?Id=29156

Author Topic: Iranian Navy (Read 20683 times)

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