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IRIN IR.AN-140N
« on: November 30, 2010, 05:08:58 AM »
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As I promised, here are the watermarked engineering design images of IR.AN-140N !

These photos are being exposed for the first time anywhere.


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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2010, 05:16:33 AM »
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Excellent!
Those detailed drawings are significantly better then the crude models we've seen.

Doesn't look like it's fitted for weapons like the P-3's which at least had the potential to carry Harpoon's.
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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2010, 07:16:12 AM »
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Indeed, great images Catsoo!

The equipment mentioned all sounds pretty good but one of them puzzles me a bit.

I so far have been unable to find any military use of a MWR (Microwave Radiometer). In fact most often when I search for information on such systems I keep being directed to links talking about spacecraft using them.
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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2010, 07:41:33 AM »
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Thanks Catsoo, very nice pics.

it seems there are two type of Iran-140N yes? HMS200 and HMS500? or HMS is the name of a system?
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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2010, 05:55:20 PM »
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That's seems like the idea to me.

The HMS200 seems to be the simplier of the two concepts and likely is based directly on the civilian IrAN-140 so it would cheaper to build and will likely appear sooner. I think this variant may be the replacement for the Fokker F-27.

The HMS500 on the other hand looks to be the proper replacement for the P-3 Orion, with equipment for both Maritime patrol and also anti-submarine equipment.
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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2010, 11:33:53 PM »
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More surprises!

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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2010, 11:42:17 PM »
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Continues....!


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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2010, 11:48:34 PM »
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It is your lucky day...................................!


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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2010, 12:08:32 AM »
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From the above slides we can point out some distinct types:

HMS100
- Search and Rescue, Maritime Patrol
- Environmental research and crew familiarization.

From the above, I deem it to be a part training aircraft for the crew.

HMS200
- Search and Rescue, Maritime Patrol

HMS400
- Search and Rescue, Maritime Patrol, Sea Surface Surveillance
- equipped with ESM and CMDS devices

HMS500
- Search and Rescue, Maritime Patrol, Sea Surface Sureveillance, Sub-Surface Surveillance, Pollution Control
- equipped with MAD, MWR and sonar-buoy dispensers.

The above seems to render it a possible replacement for Iran's aging PC-3 Orions. The inclusion of a Microwave Radiometer (MWR) device is rather interesting. MWR mounts enable time-slotted  measurements of water vapor and liquid water in the atmosphere using a microwave receiver. I am uncertain of the military use of these though. The measurements that can be obtained range from cloud liquid water, precipitable water and so forth. This is probably intended for the pollution control feature.
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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2010, 12:12:40 AM »
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By the way, great pictures Catsoo.
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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2010, 04:58:49 AM »
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Great photos Catsoo.
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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2010, 09:39:22 AM »
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Nice pictures Catsoo, Very Very interesting.
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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2010, 02:23:41 PM »
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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2010, 04:27:49 PM »
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Catsoo thanks a lot, can I ask you where do you find this photos?
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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2010, 10:14:57 PM »
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I am glad and pleased that some here appreciate these images.

   
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Catsoo thanks a lot, can I ask you where do you find this photos?


They are my private photo!



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Iran produces Marine Patrol Iran-140
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2011, 02:31:59 PM »
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Ahmad Vahidi, Defence Minister of Iran announced today that this product crrently is under production.

this aircraft has high endurance and has been equiped with optical and radar subsystems.
 he added in the feild of missile technology new programmes are on agenda. and new space programmes are underway too.

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وزیر دفاع و پشتیبانی نیروهای مسلح از تولید هواپیمای گشت دریایی در صنایع دفاعی ایران خبر داد و گفت: این محصول که هم اکنون در صنایع دفاعی در حال تولید است می تواند در حوزه نظامی کاربرد زیادی داشته باشد.
به گزارش گروه دفاع و امنیت مشرق به نقل از مهر، سردار احمد وحیدی وزیر دفاع و پشتیبانی نیروهای مسلح در خصوص دستاوردهای جدید صنعت دفاعی کشور گفت: محصولات تولیدی در صنایع دفاعی کشور متنوع است و ما در حوزه های الکترونیک و الکترو اپتیک محصولات زیادی داریم که بخشی از آنها افتتاح شده و بخش دیگر در آستانه افتتاح است.
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وزیر دفاع و پشتیبانی نیروهای مسلح در ادامه گفتگو با خبرنگار مهر خبر از تولید هواپیمای گشت دریایی در صنایع دفاعی داد و افزود: این محصول که هم اکنون در صنایع دفاعی در حال تولید است می تواند در حوزه نظامی و گشت دریایی کاربرد زیادی داشته باشد که امیدواریم بتوانیم در آینده نزدیک آن را وارد نیروهای مسلح کنیم.
 
سردار وحیدی در خصوص ویژگیهای این هواپیمای گشت دریایی گفت: این محصول می تواند با مداومت بالای پروازی و با داشتن زیر سیستمهای اپتیکی و راداری حوزه های مورد نظر را مورد تعقیب قرار دهد و نسبت به گشت شناسایی، در منطقه مورد نظر نیروهای مسلح عمل کند.

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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2011, 03:03:08 PM »
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Finally, plan is close to reality:

http://www.mashreghnews.ir/fa/news/63946


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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2011, 08:40:07 AM »
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What about the air surveillance version which we didnt hear anything about it yet?
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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2011, 10:12:27 PM »
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One of the interesting things I've discovered about the Iran-140MP lately is the identity of two of the major subsystems. The forward facing search/navigation radar is the Australian RDR-1600. The active defence system which is meant to be used against incoming missiles incorporates a laser jammer (AN/ALQ-212 ATIRJ) which the US military developed in the mid-90s for their aircraft.
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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2011, 03:34:53 AM »
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Ayyash,

What is the source of your information?


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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2011, 03:50:38 AM »
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Your pictures actually!

If you look at slide #47 that you posted, it shows a picture of the radar that is identical to the one advertised by the Australian company:
http://quickstrike.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=44

And then if you look at slide #46 that shows the system network, the ATIRJ is labeled as the "IRCM" (infrared countermeasures).
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/systems/siircm.htm

It's possible they might just be using stock imagery as placeholders, but the description of the capabilities of the radar matches the description of the RDR-1600B extremely well.
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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2011, 01:12:33 PM »
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Quote from: Ayyash on September 01, 2011, 10:12:27 PM
One of the interesting things I've discovered about the Iran-140MP lately is the identity of two of the major subsystems. The forward facing search/navigation radar is the Australian RDR-1600. The active defence system which is meant to be used against incoming missiles incorporates a laser jammer (AN/ALQ-212 ATIRJ) which the US military developed in the mid-90s for their aircraft.

Are these systems useful today against modern AA missiles?
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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2011, 01:30:15 PM »
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Are these systems useful today against modern AA missiles?


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a laser jammer (AN/ALQ-212 ATIRJ) which the US military developed in the mid-90s for their aircraft.


According to the same Global Security page ( http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/systems/siircm.htm ), development of AN/ALQ-212 ATIRJ began in the mid-1990s, but production didn't start before 2001-2004, and the US military is still in the process of upgrading many of its aircraft with this system.

So I'd say it is as modern and presumably effective as it gets.
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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2011, 02:18:18 PM »
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Quote from: Rakhsh786 on September 02, 2011, 01:30:15 PM
According to the same Global Security page ( http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/systems/siircm.htm ), development of AN/ALQ-212 ATIRJ began in the mid-1990s, but production didn't start before 2001-2004, and the US military is still in the process of upgrading many of its aircraft with this system.

So I'd say it is as modern and presumably effective as it gets.



Thank you.

If it has come in production in 2001-2004 then it must be effective against modern AA weapons.

Does Iran produce this radar themselves, or what?
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Re: IRIN IR.AN-140N
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2011, 07:36:36 PM »
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Ayyash,

For obvious reasons, I do not believe that what you in the photos are what the actual sub-systems on IR.AN-140N will be. I would bet more on Iran's Orion's sub-systems that Iran has been operation for decades and perhaps Ukrainian technology.

Iran has been keeping Orions flying that should mean there is capability there for maintenance of sensitive equipment. Iran could develpe similar systems after decades with upgrades as is the norm with Iran armed forces.


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