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Re: Video: IRIN is officially receiving the new Ghader ASHMs
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2011, 04:03:07 PM »
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Re: Video: IRIN is officially receiving the new Ghader ASHMs
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2011, 04:20:34 PM »
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why does it pull up soooooo fast and hard after it releases ?
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Re: Video: IRIN is officially receiving the new Ghader ASHMs
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2011, 05:09:15 PM »
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why does it pull up soooooo fast and hard after it releases ?
What you're seeing isn't actually the missile, it's the booster that is jettisoned shortly after launch. The reason for the radical change in direction is of course because it's no longer under control of the missile, so it just shoots upwards with it's remaining energy.

Here are some pictures that illustrate it:
1) This a screenshot from Maydayfire's video of the Qadr being tested (1:06 into it).

2) This is better quality image shows the moment of separation; the image was taken during the Velayat-89 wargames.

3) The last picture illustrates the visible exhaust trail from the booster, showing the point at which it separated from the missile and shot upwards.
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Re: Video: IRIN is officially receiving the new Ghader ASHMs
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2011, 05:25:40 PM »
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Thanks so much ayyash :salute:

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Re: Video: IRIN is officially receiving the new Ghader ASHMs
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2011, 06:30:11 PM »
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Re: Video: IRIN is officially receiving the new Ghader ASHMs
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2011, 07:38:08 PM »
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Another video, I especially like fins expansion slow-mo:

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Report in English:

Iranian Navy recieved mass-produced Ghader anti-ship missile 2011 موشک کروز قادر Small | Large

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Re: Video: IRIN is officially receiving the new Ghader ASHMs
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2011, 12:23:45 AM »
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Ayyash:
Do you think the booster is descends by a parachute to be recovered and reused later?

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Re: Video: IRIN is officially receiving the new Ghader ASHMs
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2011, 01:25:12 AM »
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Ayyash:
Do you think the booster is descends by a parachute to be recovered and reused later?
I doubt it; the booster is like pretty much every other booster I can think of in that it's extremely basic - it's essentially just a small rocket. I wouldn't imagine it would be cost effective to recover and reuse them given that they're so cheap. Also, since they're naval weapons, I'm doubtful that they even could be recovered without the addition of globs of extra weight like floats and parachutes.

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Re: Video: IRIN is officially receiving the new Ghader ASHMs
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2011, 03:28:54 AM »
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thanks Ayyash, also do you think that the jet engine starts-up during the time the missile is accelerated with the booster, or does start up happen right before launch?

-the first hypothesis makes it possible to start up without ground power as the air flow makes the engine spool up to speed necessary for ignition, but its drawback is that if the engine does not start up for whatever reason the whole missile is lost

-the second hypothesis requires ground power (possibly compressed air) for spool up, but its positive point is that if engine does not start up then the whole missile is not lost and you can attemp to start it up again.
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Re: Video: IRIN is officially receiving the new Ghader ASHMs
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2011, 04:19:58 AM »
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I'd wager that the turbojet only kicks in after the booster is disconnected. There are two reasons for this, a) in the FNA picture I posted above,  you can see the missile immediately after the booster is released and there's no visible indicators that the engine is running, and b) if the turbojet engaged while the booster was still attached it would burn it off! I'd also assume as you do that the airflow is necessary for the missile to start, hence why the fixed-wing-launched versions don't need the boosters, but the helicopter-launched ones do.

You bring up a good point though, which is the failure rate of any of these missiles; I don't really have anything to add to the discussion beyond saying that the missiles are all probably well within their shelf-life, especially these new Qaders. I can't imagine the risk of engine failure to be that significant since Iran's chosen to make the Noor their primary ASCM as well as expanding its use in other platforms like the Karrar (which uses some variant of the Toloue), and the Qader.

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Re: Video: IRIN is officially receiving the new Ghader ASHMs
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Re: Video: IRIN is officially receiving the new Ghader ASHMs
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Re: Video: IRIN is officially receiving the new Ghader ASHMs
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2012, 11:21:03 AM »
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perspolis welcome back. haven't seen you for a while. why did you post the f5 emergency landing video hear?

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Re: Video: IRIN is officially receiving the new Ghader ASHMs
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2012, 11:23:30 AM »
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hi how you doin

I guess i was too excited ...

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Re: Video: IRIN is officially receiving the new Ghader ASHMs
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2012, 11:28:24 AM »
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