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Offline sciri21

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"Alef" Opinion Piece: Eliminate Israeli People
« on: February 06, 2012, 11:51:29 PM »
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http://www.alef.ir/vdcepw8zwjh8ewi.b9bj.html?142262

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Re: "Alef" Opinion Piece: Eliminate Israeli People
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2012, 11:56:24 PM »
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if he is advocating the indiscriminate targeting of israeli civilians, then this should never have been published and the editor who allowed it should be held to account

such a posture is inherently immoral and gives fodder to iran's enemies who seek to portray the islamic republic as murderous and genocidal

the article doesn't represent the iranian govt, but people around the world know that iranian publications are strictly censored and will question why such a viewpoint would be allowed

this article has already been cited and distorted for propaganda purposes in zionist and western publications

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Re: "Alef" Opinion Piece: Eliminate Israeli People
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2012, 12:02:56 AM »
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if he is advocating the indiscriminate targeting of israeli civilians, then this should never have been published and the editor who allowed it should be held to account

such a posture is inherently immoral and gives fodder to iran's enemies who seek to portray the islamic republic as murderous and genocidal

the article doesn't represent the iranian govt, but people around the world know that iranian publications are strictly censored and will question why such a viewpoint would be allowed

this article has already been cited and distorted for propaganda purposes in zionist and western publications

As I discussed this on another thread, this guy's blog looks very suspicious. The blog has been used by Israelis propaganda machine in West to paint Iran as anti-Jews.

I think this guy should be investigated. There is no Islamic justification for preemptive murder of 5 million civilians. Anybody who thinks that Islam will allow this should get his brain checked. 

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"Alef" Opinion Piece: Eliminate Israeli People
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2012, 12:05:52 AM »
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An ordinary person's strategic projection means nothing. That's one Iranian, vs thousands making worse comments about Iran every day.

But it shows the schizophrenic nature of the pro-zionist crowd, who on the one hand openly support the murder of Iranian civilians (such as the shahid scientists) and on the other play the innocent victim card by blowing the significance of commentaries like this one out of proportion.


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but people around the world know that iranian publications are strictly censored and will question why such a viewpoint would be allowed

That doesn't mean every opinion piece is read by the authorities before publication on the internet.

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Re: "Alef" Opinion Piece: Eliminate Israeli People
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2012, 12:15:20 AM »
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An ordinary person's strategic projection means nothing. That's one Iranian, vs thousands making worse comments about Iran every day.

But it shows the schizophrenic nature of the pro-zionist crowd, who on the one hand openly support the murder of Iranian civilians (such as the shahid scientists) and on the other play the innocent victim card by blowing the significance of commentaries like this one out of proportion.


That doesn't mean every opinion piece is read by the authorities before publication on the internet.

Just because they are psychopaths, it does not mean we should allow psychopaths to present this as Islamic ideology.
There is a diffrence between Shia and Sunni. Sunnis could make their own ijtihad and allow many things, but Shia cannot do the same. In this case there should be a fatwa for allowing this to be presented as Islam, because it contradicts Qu'ran.

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"Alef" Opinion Piece: Eliminate Israeli People
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2012, 12:17:46 AM »
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it means nothing to those who are objective, of course

the authorities don't read everything before it's published on the internet, but that's not the point. the fact that the editor of a pro-regime publication would approve it is problematic, and the government should take swift action against it. otherwise, i would question the competence of the relevent authorities

1979change is absolutely right. the writer claims that his opinion is justified by islam and even cites imam khomeini for support


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"Alef" Opinion Piece: Eliminate Israeli People
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2012, 02:10:57 AM »
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We are not so weak to be worried abput the loose ruminations of some random 'blogger'. Aside from the technical religious issues brought forth (for right or wrong) I am unconcerned about this and, in fact, I believe it is a net positive.

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« Last Edit: February 07, 2012, 02:33:44 AM by mamdali »
(Note:  I hope I'm being redundant by saying that given the state of misinformation and factless and unsupported content that is rife on the 'internet' today, naturally, I cannot endorse, believe, support, or accept any of links posted by me or others.  I personally find them interesting, however, as they open new perspectives for me.  I leave it to the reader to glean what they can or want from them).

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Re: "Alef" Opinion Piece: Eliminate Israeli People
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2012, 03:02:23 PM »
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I thought Israeli citizens were all part of their military and have to do mandatory service? I think they have a policy that all their citizens can be called up for military service.
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Re: "Alef" Opinion Piece: Eliminate Israeli People
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2012, 03:13:41 PM »
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Just so no one misunderstands me;

I don't think the targeting of civilians is at allowed in Islam, contrary to the zionists which have allowed for targeting of civilians in Gaza and south lebanon.

What i wanted to clarify is that in the zionist entity, everyone apparently is a soldier due to their own policy .

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Re: "Alef" Opinion Piece: Eliminate Israeli People
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2012, 05:40:53 PM »
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What i wanted to clarify is that in the zionist entity, everyone apparently is a soldier due to their own policy .

They all do military service and have been part of the occupation in one way or another during their military service...They're all combatants as far as I'm concerned coz they can shoot and have probably shot at Palestinians..

I may sound a bit off but I don't agree with religious quotes about not targeting civilians when it comes to war..Iran cannot afford to allow her civilians to be slaughtered by a ruthless enemy and not retaliate by citing religious edicts..I think, with all due respect to my brothers here, is a very stupid approach..If you hit their civilians as a response to their attack, they'll calculate the cost is too hight to bare and the war will end much sooner and quicker..

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Re: "Alef" Opinion Piece: Eliminate Israeli People
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2012, 07:01:53 PM »
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If you hit their civilians as a response to their attack, they'll calculate the cost is too hight to bare and the war will end much sooner and quicker..

Israeli's don't have civilians, they are all occupying soldiers and until they are faced with force and start fearing for their lives they will never leave.

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Re: "Alef" Opinion Piece: Eliminate Israeli People
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2012, 08:00:40 PM »
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There is no Israel. There is Palestine, inhabited by Palestinians, with foreign soldiers occupying it.

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"Alef" Opinion Piece: Eliminate Israeli People
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2012, 03:13:49 AM »
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- if he is advocating the indiscriminate targeting of israeli civilians -

I looked at a Bing translation, and it seemed to me to say that IF Israel first struck Iran, then Iran would respond by such actions as hitting Israel's Dimona reactor and Israel's infrastructure, thus making the area unlivable.

I've heard USA journalists / politicians and people talk about nuking mecca and "turning the Middle East into a parking lot" on occasions.

It would be ridiculous (though not unexpected) for the West to start complaining about this article.



If Israel knows that Iran will not respond by hitting civilians, then Israel will be more likely to conduct a first strike.
On the other hand, if Israel understands that Iran will target everything that Israel has if Israel makes a first strike, then Israel will be less likely to make the first move.

Israel is an invasion of the Middle East.
It is not a legitimate nation. It is an invasion.

It is not a cancer. A cancer is part of your own body that goes awry. Israel is not part of the Middle East. It is a foreign intrusion. It is an invasion.
I wish people would stop calling it a "cancer."  That's too kind a term for it. It is a knife in the ribs of the Mid East.

In my opinion, if Israel hits Iranian military sites, Iran should hit Israeli military sites.
If Israel hits Iranian civilian areas, Iran should respond likewise.



 

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