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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2011, 11:38:38 AM »
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good for them and you.... this way everyone is happy! :D
only if they stopped complaining about brain drain.
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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2011, 11:44:49 AM »
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only if they stopped complaining about brain drain.
are u confused? or are you deliberately trying to confuse me? your posts give me headaches! seriously dude! learn to form one sentence together!
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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2011, 11:45:42 AM »
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are u confused? or are you deliberately trying to confuse me? your posts give me headaches! seriously dude! learn to form one sentence together!
its not my fault you are buffalos behind. dont be mad. eat grass.

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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2011, 11:47:59 AM »
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its not my fault you are buffalos behind. dont be mad. eat grass.
okkkayyyyy! Ill leave you be with yourself! ???

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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2011, 02:52:26 PM »
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only if they stopped complaining about brain drain.

Do you consider yourself part of the brain drain?

I know most people who consider themselves part of the brain drain, have no brains.
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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2011, 03:32:53 PM »
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Please refrain from derailing the topic!

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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2011, 03:53:49 PM »
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Do you consider yourself part of the brain drain?

I know most people who consider themselves part of the brain drain, have no brains.
you have no brain and you have bufallo behind stuffings in your skull.
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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2011, 04:16:53 PM »
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^ that doesn't make sense in any language lol

Ary joon, calm down.

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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2011, 04:48:16 PM »
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Life after the Islamic Republic???
all I can say is that you guys who have been wishing this for the past 33 years is that your life will be over way before anything happens to IRI.
So you should ask what is going to happen after your life is over.
There are times like these where the resolve of a Nation is shown clearly to the world. Oh this great Nation of Iran together with its proud citizens showed the world that when the Silent Majority gets rattled the world better pay attention:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ls4I37lQrw&feature=player_embedded#at=42  2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbYqckFvUJI&feature=player_embedded   2010

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This brings back sooooo much memory and tears to my eyes.
http://www.iranclip.com/player/169

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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2011, 05:35:21 PM »
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 Aryana, every one here who you refer to as a "buffalos behind" are more coherent in thier wrightings (both in terms of spelling & sentence structure)than you are. So if they are all "buffalos behinds" what does that make you?

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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2011, 05:37:34 PM »
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wrightings

writings stuped is that what you mean. can head.

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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2011, 05:41:42 PM »
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writings stuped is that what you mean. can head.

you're awesome! :o

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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2011, 06:36:15 PM »
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writings stuped is that what you mean. can head.

Are you really trying to correct someone in their spelling? Really?
 
After all your incoherent writings you are correcting someone else on their spelling?
 
By the way you miss spelled "Stupid"
 

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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2011, 07:01:18 PM »
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Are you really trying to correct someone in their spelling? Really?
 
After all your incoherent writings you are correcting someone else on their spelling?
 
By the way you miss spelled "Stupid"
 
i did that for censur.

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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2011, 08:36:57 PM »
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You are right, I ment writing! Ok so I'm a "can head", what are you?

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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2011, 08:38:05 PM »
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You are right, I ment writing! Ok so I'm a "can head", what are you?
intelligent man. seen any?

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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #41 on: October 03, 2011, 09:07:15 PM »
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Yes I have, but never in your direction!

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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #42 on: October 03, 2011, 09:12:45 PM »
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Yes I have, but never in your direction!
It is because i am not next to you can head.
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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2011, 10:12:41 PM »
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Western style democracy isn't perfect, there are indeed many arguments to be made for a more authoritarian system that still allows people to voice their concerns as is present in Iran.

The government also has to fit the population, the culture, and the region. Right now what Iran needs most is to have its sovereignty protected, a more liberal democracy might not be able to protect Iran from outside influence aimed at causing societal degeneracy or to weaken Iran in general. Iran also needs to have the system of education and the industrial base of the nation improve to better educate and provide more modern jobs to Iranians, otherwise it's difficult to see how people are going to have the education and experience necessary to vote for who truly represents what's in their best interest. For democracy to work, people have to be equipped with the full set of intellectual tools necessary to distinguish which policies are most important to their lives, detect B.S. from candidates, and have the foresight and logical framework to be able to reason with themselves what is in the best interest of their nation in the future.

I understand people must be frustrated with what they see as lack of representation that being a citizen of other nations would afford them. But unfortunately, Iran, standing alone, with few allies, does not have the luxury today of no threat on its national sovereignty and culture.

And I also understand this desire to force everyone who does not want to be totally committed to the IRI out of Iran, thinking they weaken the nation. But brain drain is a problem worth seriously confronting. There must be a balance, some way to ensure the loyalty of Iranian citizens without marginalizing some group and forcing them to leave.
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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #44 on: October 03, 2011, 10:14:15 PM »
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Western style democracy isn't perfect, there are indeed many arguments to be made for a more authoritarian system that still allows people to voice their concerns as is present in Iran.

The government also has to fit the population, the culture, and the region. Right now what Iran needs most is to have its sovereignty protected, a more liberal democracy might not be able to protect Iran from outside influence aimed at causing societal degeneracy or to weaken Iran in general. Iran also needs to have the system of education and the industrial base of the nation improve to better educate and provide more modern jobs to Iranians, otherwise it's difficult to see how people are going to have the education and experience necessary to vote for who truly represents what's in their best interest. For democracy to work, people have to be equipped with the full set of intellectual tools necessary to distinguish which policies are most important to their lives, detect B.S. from candidates, and have the foresight and logical framework to be able to reason with themselves what is in the best interest of their nation in the future.

I understand people must be frustrated with what they see as lack of representation that being a citizen of other nations would afford them. But unfortunately, Iran, standing alone, with few allies, does not have the luxury today of no threat on its national sovereignty and culture.

And I also understand this desire to force everyone who does not want to be totally committed to the IRI out of Iran, thinking they weaken the nation. But brain drain is a problem worth seriously confronting. There must be a balance, some way to ensure the loyalty of Iranian citizens without marginalizing some group and forcing them to leave.

no body is allowed to voice concern in iran. they say it hurt the system and jail them if they raise real concern.

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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #45 on: October 03, 2011, 10:56:05 PM »
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no body is allowed to voice concern in iran. they say it hurt the system and jail them if they raise real concern.
freedom to voice concern does not mean freedom to regime change, in order words, voice for concern is accepted and practiced as long as it is constructive and not destructive. This principle is in practice in every free country in the world. As for voicing your concern just go to alef.ir, tabnak.ir, mashreghnews.ir, jahannews.ir who voice their concerns about the stupidities of management in Iran 24/7 while still maintaining a constructive intention.
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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #46 on: October 03, 2011, 11:19:11 PM »
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freedom to voice concern does not mean freedom to regime change, in order words, voice for concern is accepted and practiced as long as it is constructive and not destructive. This principle is in practice in every free country in the world. As for voicing your concern just go to alef.ir, tabnak.ir, mashreghnews.ir, jahannews.ir who voice their concerns about the stupidities of management in Iran 24/7 while still maintaining a constructive intention.
all the concern that is useful is destructive in some manner.
It will challenge higher powers and reveal system weakness.
and iri has some official stand that can not be challenged or spoken about.
usa is so free that they call bush satanist in radio all the time.

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« Reply #47 on: October 03, 2011, 11:31:42 PM »
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all the concern that is useful is destructive in some manner.
It will challenge higher powers and reveal system weakness.
and iri has some official stand that can not be challenged or spoken about.
usa is so free that they call bush satanist in radio all the time.
USA is only free to yell and scream, to the extent that you tear your throat while nobody listens to you and you find yourself alone bleeding to death, but their political infrastructure is so organized that they will counter any effort that they seem a threat to their national security. For example, you can yell and scream and call Bush a satanist on radio but if you open up a charity nonprofit organization that sends charity to Iran or Palestine to cover for education costs of orphans, all of a sudden you are a threat to national security and your balls will be cut off. A simple and humanitarian issue of orphan education in Muslim countries is a red line in USA!!. In  Iran, its main red line is regime change and efforts to topple the regime. Since most of the rhetoric about regime change comes from outside Iran with threats of War from US/ISrael/UK/France, it is natural that any talk about regime change from inside of Iran be dealt with as an issue of national security. simple as that. Now you want to tear your throat about regime change in Iran and call Iranian leaders satanists well there is a solution to that, you get your ass out of iran and their are countless venues funded by MI-6/CIA like VOA-p,BBC-p, radio farda, .... to voice your "concern".  Simple as that.
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Re: Life After Islamic Republic
« Reply #48 on: October 03, 2011, 11:35:13 PM »
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USA is only free to yell and scream, to the extent that you tear your throat while nobody listens to you and you find yourself alone bleeding to death, but their political infrastructure is so organized that they will counter any effort that they seem a threat to their national security. For example, you can yell and scream and call Bush a satanist on radio but if you open up a charity organization that sends charity to Iran or Palestine, all of a sudden  you are a threat to national security and your balls will be cut off. Same thing is true in Iran, since most of the rhetoric about regime change comes from outside Iran with threats of War from US/ISrael/UK/France, it is natural that any talk about regime change inside of Iran be dealt with as an issue of national security.
It is because of trade resitrictions, and we are talking about freedom of speech not trade.

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« Reply #49 on: October 03, 2011, 11:38:05 PM »
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It is because of trade resitrictions, and we are talking about freedom of speech not trade.
charity for orphans the age of 6 years old entering school is not trade! that is why they are called non-profit organizations!
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