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« Reply #150 on: January 07, 2012, 04:51:57 AM »
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http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/43694

Canada free press: "Because without america there is no free world"  :sleep: :think:

Canadians LIKING America. Definitely hogwash.

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #151 on: January 07, 2012, 06:34:37 PM »
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Ron Paul's What If ? Remastered
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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #152 on: January 07, 2012, 09:04:21 PM »
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Why Ron Paul Is Right And Barack Obama Is Wrong About Iran

One of the key things that Ron Paul has contributed to our discourse is the notion that we should try and look at conflict from the point of view of our foe. You'd think this would be obvious if we are attempting to influence, say, Iran's behavior, to understand their fears, their baseline interests and their ideology. So far, all we hear about is their ideology. But let's broaden our moral imagination in ways not allowed in the Washington Post.

Imagine that three scientists working on the US nuclear arsenal were assassinated in the streets of Chicago or Washington or Los Angeles by agents of Iran. Now imagine that an explosion took place at one of our nuclear facilities - also engineered by Iran. Also imagine that Iran was capable of blockading US ports to cripple the US economy. Imagine the dollar collapsing because of this and a new depression initiated. What do you think Mitt Romney would be saying? I suspect he would be saying that Iran has already declared war on the US.

But all these things have happened in Iran, probably by the hands of Israeli intelligence, perhaps by the US, or some combo of the two. Is it surprising that the Iranians are throwing rhetoric around, even if much of it is empty? Of course not. Vali Nasr argues that Iran is already on a war-footing because of this:

Iran has interpreted sanctions that hurt its oil exports, which account for about half of government revenue, as acts of war.

Who alone among the presidential candidates gets this? Only Ron Paul. Bob Wright has a must-read on the potential president's lonely sanity on this question. Jon Rauch also notes that the debate we're having about Iran is very very similar to the debate we once had about China's nuclear capacity:

Fifty years ago, [China] was the Iran of its day, a rising regional power that was radical, ideological, boldly antagonistic. It fought the U.S. in Korea, attacked India and Taiwan, supported violent insurgencies and more. Its leader, Mao Zedong, mused that killing half of mankind might be a price worth paying to make the world socialist. Understandably alarmed, some of President Eisenhower’s advisers urged a pre-emptive nuclear attack. (Ike wisely forbore.) President Kennedy said a nuclear China would dominate Southeast Asia and "so upset the world political scene" as to be "intolerable."

Notice the classic Kennedy recklessness in foreign policy (he was George W Bush avant la lettre), and the characteristic Eisenhower sanity. Now look at the history. Since China's adoption of nuclear status, it has actually behaved more responsibly abroad, not less. Jon makes a very persuasive case that nuclear weapons really don't give countries much of an edge, and, if anything, tend to calm them down, especially if they are in a region where they have foes who do have such weapons.

The Obama administration has foolishly decreed that it will never allow a nuclear-armed Iran. It's foolish because at some point, Iran will get one, and the US will therefore have to go to war either to stop it or to punish Iran for it. The obvious option - containment - is foregone.

Obama also argues that he opposes Iran's nukes because of proliferation in the region. At which point one must loudly cough "Ahem." Only one country in the region has illegally, in defiance of internatinal law and the NPT and US policy, has nuclear weapons and it's Israel, not any Arab state. More absurdly, the US government has a formal policy of never acknowledging this fact. At one point in the not-so-distant past, the US government was committed to the view that Iraq had nukes but Israel didn't.

When will the US evolve a sane policy in the Middle East? One that advances our interests, avoids a catastrophic global religious war, and bases it judgment on history and statecraft rather than religion and a US-Israel alliance that, since the end of the Cold War, has become increasingly unhealthy to both parties? Less Kennedy, more Eisenhower, please.

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/01/why-ron-paul-is-right-and-president-obama-is-wrong-about-iran.html

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #153 on: January 07, 2012, 09:21:06 PM »
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Check this out:

Ron Paul 'supporter' calls Glenn Beck a Israeli operative. Notice how they try to drown out what he says by diverting the attention to something else. The caller couldn't really handle the pressure and be able to answer things, that is why they allowed him to continue, but if it was someone who can think quickly on their tows, be assured he would have hanged up the phone on him.

http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/01/06/the-tale-of-two-ron-paul-supporters-the-typical-ron-paul-caller/
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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #154 on: January 08, 2012, 12:53:00 AM »
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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #155 on: January 08, 2012, 12:26:55 PM »
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Ron Paul Highlights at the ABC / Yahoo / WMUR Debate in New Hampshire

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #156 on: January 08, 2012, 04:02:43 PM »
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RON PAUL IS THE CHOICE OF THE TROOPS! (Veterans & Active Duty march on the White House)

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #157 on: January 08, 2012, 11:01:45 PM »
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How to get Ron Paul Elected! Step by Step! Democrats Please Help! Conan O'brien John Stewart adult

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #158 on: January 09, 2012, 05:51:18 PM »
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Ron Paul and the Anti-Zionists
By JOHN TABIN on 1.9.12 @ 7:25AM

Manchester, New Hampshire -- Yesterday in Meredith, NH, Ron Paul shook a hand that shook Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's hand.
The hand belonged to Yisroel Dovid Weiss, an activist rabbi who leads a branch of Neturei Karta, a small and very odd sect of Haredi Jews (often called by the somewhat imprecise label "ultra-Orthodox"). While many Haredim are theologically opposed to Zionism -- to oversimplify, they believe the Jews get the Holy Land when the Messiah arrives, not before -- only Neturei Karta actively side with Israel's enemies. (Their marginal role in the Haredi world is explained in more detail here.) The late Neturei Karta leader Moshe Hirsh was a close associate of Yasser Arafat, and Weiss has traveled with a delegation to Tehran more than once, including on a trip to attend a Holocaust revisionism conference (Weiss, whose grandparents perished at Aushwitz, is not himself a Holocaust denier, but he happily played token Jewish friend to those who are).

Paul undoubtedly knew nothing about any of this. When I arrived late at the town hall event in Meredith, he was prefacing an answer to a question about Israel by expressing admiration for Zionist principles of independence and self-reliance, going on to say, of course, that Israel shouldn't get any US aid. (Paul, or someone on his staff, has clearly read this Jeffrey Goldberg post.) He went on to make a somewhat odd suggestion, which Felicia Sonmez of the Washington Post zeroed in on, that Israel should "become the Hong Kong of the Middle East, or something like that. You know, have a really affluent society." It's the "become" part that makes this strange; Israel is already more affluent and democratic than her neighbors.
On the way out, I overheard a late-middle-aged Ron Paul supporter, identifiable by button and sticker, talking to one of the Neturei Karta guys, saying that "The Zionist are godless atheists ... they only believe in themselves." Ron Paul may not hate Israel, but people who hate Israel sure seem to like Ron Paul.

http://spectator.org/blog/2012/01/09/ron-paul-and-the-anti-zionists

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #159 on: January 09, 2012, 06:31:30 PM »
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Ron Paul Educates Rick Santorum on Iran During Ames Iowa Debate Small | Large
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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #160 on: January 09, 2012, 08:13:23 PM »
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When will the US evolve a sane policy in the Middle East?

It is more accurate to ask, when will the USA free itself from heavy Zionist influence in Hollywood, newspapers, radio, television, book publishing, magazine publishing, university academics, political lobbies, etc.?

This includes the some 30 million Christian Zionists.

The answer is never.

Even after Israhell is gone, they will still push their agenda.

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including on a trip to attend a Holocaust revisionism conference

That was not a revisionism conference.
It was a holocaust conference that included some revisionist historians and some non-revisionist historians.

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but people who hate Israel sure seem to like Ron Paul.

And people who hate Iran hate Ron Paul. So what?

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #161 on: January 09, 2012, 10:24:13 PM »
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They have that retarded system where they just win the state, as opposed to the delegate votes, so the fact that California is the most populous state will be of little effect no???


Not true actually. See, based on a state's population you get a certain amount of delegates from that state. If you win California you get the largest amount of deputies.

This is from last election, delegates per state and who won them:
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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #162 on: January 09, 2012, 10:29:31 PM »
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Not true actually. See, based on a state's population you get a certain amount of delegates from that state. If you win California you get the largest amount of deputies.

This is from last election, delegates per state and who won them:


I have read differently. That the states which have a bigger chance of winning, as a republican, get more delegates compared to others.

This picture you presented is according to the last election? I'll post where i read it once i get some time, but the jist of what i read was that they allocate delegates according to how many republicans that state has in the senate, congress and according to their chances of winning.

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #163 on: January 09, 2012, 10:30:17 PM »
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Wait your talking about the general election, we were talking about the GOP nomination process.

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #165 on: January 10, 2012, 12:37:02 PM »
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Wait your talking about the general election, we were talking about the GOP nomination process.


As for the primaries, it's a complex system and each state has a different method. The amounth of delegates per state can be found here:
http://www.demconwatchblog.com/upload/2012%20RNC%20Delegate%20Summary.pdf

As you see Texas has
155 Total Delegate
California has
172 Total Delegates

But then you've got RNC delegates, district delegates, state-wide delegates and super delegates. And then in some states the winner takes all, in others the delegates are divided among the top candidates, ect. the whole thing is a mess.

Anyway, today New Hampshire is voting, Romney went from a 48 to 18 % advantage over Ron Paul to 33 to 20 %, meaning his lead has been more than halved. Let's hope Ron Paul can get in a strong second, cause New Hampshire is not a winner takes all state.

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #166 on: January 10, 2012, 01:46:38 PM »
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So i understood it wrong, this is from where i got my understanding of this complicated and undemocratic process.

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As the GOP hopefuls work on through the Fourth of July weekend, it’s worth asking: how exactly does a candidate win the Republican Party’s nomination? Today: the basic structure.

(This is a three-part series. Part I focuses on the overall structure of the Republican nomination process. Part II will delve into how state primaries/caucuses work. Part III will outline potential victory strategies for the candidates.)



Michelle Bachmann's campaign announcement in Waterloo, IA. Photo: IowaPolitics.com, via Flickr.

The Republican presidential field is crowded and getting more so, with Rep. Thad McCotter (R-MI) officially entering the race this week, Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX) on the brink, and Sarah Palin constantly looming in the shadows. The media is abuzz with strategies and “road maps” for candidates in Iowa and New Hampshire and so forth, often delving into technical details and throwing out terms like “district conventions,” “winner-take-all states,” “unpledged delegates” and so forth.

But it’s the Fourth of July weekend, a brief pause in the political world’s wall-to-wall coverage, and so I thought I’d take a step back from the trees to give the forest a good once-over. What, exactly, do you have to do to become the Republican Party’s presidential nominee?  Let’s start with the basics, and make them as simple as possible by using a time-honored Q&A rhetorical device.

OK, so: when does the candidate actually get to wear the fancy hat that says “I’m the nominee!” or whatever?
The Republican Party nominates whoever gets a majority of the votes of the official delegates to the 2012 Republican National Convention.  According to political facts site The Green Papers, that means the votes of 1,212 out of 2,422 delegates, absent any changes to the party’s rules.  The convention itself will be in Tampa, Florida, from August 27 to August 30, 2012.

Who are these convention delegates?
That’s a little more complicated.  A lot more complicated, actually, but as we go through it, remember this general rule: Republicans like unambiguous nominating processes. That’s true even if the whole affair seems “undemocratic” or opaque.  Again and again, Republicans have bet (frequently successfully) that a clear winner is better than an inter-party fight that drags on into the summer or even to the convention floor.  After all, the phrase “smoke-filled room” was coined after the Republican nomination of Warren Harding in 1920.

There’s an important caveat to that preference for clarity, though: because the Republicans like to wrap up their process quickly, a candidate with early momentum could be far more likely to snap up the nomination.  Back in the days when delegates were chosen by state party bosses rather than primaries or caucuses, that wasn’t as important, but as you saw in 2008, John McCain was able to quickly run the table based on his wins in New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Florida and effectively snag the GOP nomination by February. McCain then got thoroughly beat in the general election, and many Republicans were left with buyer’s remorse.  In 2012, you’re much more likely to see the desire for a candidate to emerge unambiguously get tempered by a desire to make sure that choice is the right one.

You’re not answering my question, you loquacious misanthrope.
You kiss your mother with that mouth?

Just tell me who these “delegates” are!
Okay, okay.  Ready for some crazy math?  According to the GOP’s official rules, the basic delegates are chosen from the fifty states like this:

Ten (10) “at-large” delegates (five for each senate seat)
Three (3) party leaders (the national party’s chairman & chairwoman for that state, plus the state Republican party’s leader)
Three (3) delegates per seat the state has in the House of Representatives (for example, Hawaii has two seats, so it will get six delegates from this rule)

That doesn’t seem so bad, but it doesn’t seem to add up to 2,422, either.
Just because I was a social sciences major doesn’t mean I’m terminally bad at math, you know. Those are just the basic delegates. States can also win bonus delegates! Here’s how:

If the state “went Republican” in 2008 (that is, it voted for McCain in the Electoral College), it gets a bonus of [4.5 + three-fifths of the state's total number of electoral college votes], rounded up.
If any of the state’s Senate seats are held by elected (not appointed) Republicans, it gets one (1) bonus delegate per elected Republican Senator.
If the state’s governor is a Republican, it gets one (1) bonus delegate.
If the state’s members of the House of Representatives are majority-Republican, it gets one (1) bonus delegate.
If the state’s local legislature has one house that’s majority-Republican (like, say, the New York State Senate), it gets one (1) bonus delegate.
If all of the state’s local legislative houses are majority-Republican, it gets an additional one (1) bonus delegate.

That’s… more complicated. Why do they give out bonus delegates?
They want to make sure that states which generally vote Republican have more clout in the nomination process.  Think about it: California’s a big state, but it doesn’t reliably vote Republican. Why should its Republicans have as much say as they would with just the basic delegates voting when they can’t even deliver the state in an election?

Fair enough. But that still doesn’t add up to 2,422.
Do you have a calculator or something? Put it away and stop bothering me. Yes, territories like Puerto Rico, Guam, etc. along with the District of Columbia get to send at-large delegates and their three local party leaders, too. There’s even a complex rule for when DC’s electoral votes go to a Republican candidate.  Fortunately, you don’t have to worry about it, because it will never be used, ever.

Okay. So those are the delegates. But how do they decide who to vote for?
That’s left for each state branch of the Republican Party to determine.

What? But you just gave me all this bluster about Republicans liking their nominations unambiguous!
Yes, I did say that. But the state parties have taken that to heart, too, not just the national party.  And since the national party largely leaves them to their own devices, they can have whatever system they’d like: a primary, a caucus, or even no public voting process at all.

Can you explain those terms?
Sure.

Caucus: any sort of meeting to select delegates.  They’re generally run by the parties, not the states, and can vary widely in their rules and effects. In Iowa, for example, the caucuses we think of as “the Iowa caucuses” actually only elect delegates to the local Republican party’s district convention, which will then elect new delegates to the state convention, who will then elect new delegates for the national convention.
Primary: This is probably what you think of when you think of voting.  It involves actually going to your precinct’s polling place and turning in a ballot (or mailing in an absentee ballot or what-have-you).  The state generally pays for and maintains it, but parties determine what happens with the results. In Washington state, for example, the government pays for a Democratic primary, but the state Democratic party doesn’t want to use it, so they elect their delegates through caucuses – and the primary results wind up meaning absolutely nothing.  With Republicans, the primaries are usually some combination of proportional or winner-take-all (see further below).
Non-public process: This used to be the way most delegates were selected.  The state party would just have a convention and choose its delegates behind closed doors.  This may sound like smoke-filled room talk to you, but believe it or not, some states’ Republican parties still do this with some or all of their delegates. Wyoming‘s is the most well-known, since it was the earliest to do so in 2008.

So, a state uses one (or more) of these methods to pick delegates and then they all go to the convention and vote for the same candidate, right?
Again, it depends on what the state’s party wants!  Delegates may be distributed in proportional, winner-take-all, or some entirely different fashion. And then, get this: the results may not even be what we call binding. Before you ask, let me explain.

Proportional: A state’s delegates are allocated proportionally to each candidate, though there’s often a floor of support that the candidate has to reach to even get one.  For example, New Hampshire will have twenty (20) delegates up for grabs, and any candidate that gets above 10% of the vote would be entitled to a share.
Winner-take-all: Whoever comes out ahead in the final contest to determine delegates (primary, state convention, etc.) gets all the state’s delegates.
Hybrid: Some curious combination of proportionality and winner-take-all.  For example, in California, most delegates are assigned winner-take-all… in each Congressional district (with three delegates per district), not state-wide.  Then ten “at-large” delegates go to whoever got the most state-wide votes.
Binding/”Pledged” delegates: Even after a state party selects its delegates, it could give them varying instructions on how “loyal” they have to be to their candidate.  Some state parties might penalize a delegate for casting a vote against the candidate they were supposed to support at the convention if the candidate didn’t give them permission to do so, while others (again, Wyoming) might select delegates based on who they say they’re going to vote for but allow them to remain “unpledged” to any candidate.

This is making my head spin.
Well, if it’s any consolation, it’s making my hands hurt.

Not really. I keep coming back to this “unambiguous” proclamation of yours. If the states can all do whatever they want, how does the national party or anyone exert any sort of control? That seems guaranteed to create ambiguity to me.
Ah, see,  the national party determines how delegates are allocated, or even whether they get to show up to the convention at all.  So any state that wants to send delegates has to abide by the national party’s calendar rules, which are the agenda of who gets to vote and when.  Currently, that looks like this:

February 1: Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada may begin their nomination processes (that is, hold caucuses, primaries, conventions, or whatever else the state party wants to hold).
March 6: Other states that want to allocate their delegates proportionally may begin their nomination processes.
April 1: All other states may begin their nomination processes.

Why did they set it up that way?
Well, the parties both got together in 2008 and decided that smaller states in different regions of the country should have the opportunity to go “first” in the process.  Iowa and New Hampshire have voted “first” for ages and are feisty about their “rights” to do so. South Carolina has inched earlier and earlier in recent years. Nevada, a swing state, seemed like a good choice for the West.

That gap of under a month between March 6 and April 1 is the Republican concession to those who said McCain’s early momentum made him unstoppable.  He took a number of winner-take-all states in February of 2008 that made his lead all-but insurmountable.  This way, even a candidate who wins all four of the early contests will have to compete in proportional states rather than just cruise to victory by taking a small plurality of the vote in a huge state like California or Texas.

But then you could go to the convention with lots of delegates from those “proportional” states for different candidates, right? That could look bad for a candidate if they only come out with, like, 1,400 votes at the convention.
You could, and it could.  But in practice, what winds up happening is that a candidate reaches the majority of “pledged” delegates and the other candidates, seeing this, “release” their own delegates.  Those folks then all rally behind the winner and the vote looks like the one you saw in 2008:

John McCain: 2,443 (98.44%)
Ron Paul: 21 (0.88%)
No vote: 14 (0.59%)
Mitt Romney: 2 (0.08%)

What happens if a state tries to break the calendar rules?
The state automatically gets stripped of half its delegates.

That doesn’t sound so bad.
It doesn’t, which is why both Florida and Michigan did it in 2008 and Florida is currently set to do it again, screwing up the entire calendar. We’ll know by October 1 (the date the national party has set for states to figure out how they’re going to send delegates) whether this all gets blown up.

However, the party could vote to impose harsher restrictions, including wholly disenfranchising the states who break the rules.  They don’t like to do that, because it demoralizes the party base there, but anything is possible.

Remember in 2008 when everyone talked about Democrats and “super-delegates” and how long that went on for? Can’t that happen here?
No, because Republicans don’t like the “super-delegates” idea.  The national Democratic party lets a significant number of party officials show up “unpledged” and vote their conscience at the nomination conventions (it was 856 out of 4,419 in 2008, or about 20% of the total).  Republicans only let three people per state/territory do that (168 out of 2,422, or about 7%).  Again, it makes other candidates more likely to give in once someone secures a majority of delegates.

Ah. Okay. So the Republicans aim to have the nomination wrapped up shortly after April 1.
Right. Then the convention becomes lovely pageantry and so forth.

But how is that going to work out in practice? When are Iowa and New Hampshire and so forth actually going to do things? Which candidates will compete where?
Aren’t you full of questions! But it’s the Fourth of July weekend.  Why don’t you tune back in for Part II on Monday, where we can talk about how these basic rules will play out in practice during the first few contests.

http://www.thefastertimes.com/politics/2011/07/02/how-the-republican-nomination-work-part-i-the-basics/

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #167 on: January 10, 2012, 01:47:18 PM »
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This is the part where i thought states like California have less delegates:

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They want to make sure that states which generally vote Republican have more clout in the nomination process.  Think about it: California’s a big state, but it doesn’t reliably vote Republican. Why should its Republicans have as much say as they would with just the basic delegates voting when they can’t even deliver the state in an election?

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #168 on: January 10, 2012, 10:48:12 PM »
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Exit Polls from New Hampshire:

Mitt Romney: 36.8%
Ron Paul: 26.3%
Jon Huntsman: 21.1%
Newt Gingrich: 10.5%
Rick Perry: 5.3%
http://www.zimbio.com/NH+Primary+Results/articles/EXmn7yoxzif/New+Hampshire+Exit+Polls+2012

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #169 on: January 11, 2012, 12:07:30 AM »
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Let's see how this turns out.

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #170 on: January 11, 2012, 10:27:23 AM »
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273 of 301 Precincts Reporting (91%)
Romney , Mitt GOP 90,230 39% - Projected Winner
Paul , Ron GOP 52,438 23%
Huntsman , Jon GOP 38,516 17%
Gingrich , Newt GOP 21,555 9%
Santorum , Rick GOP 21,383 9%
Perry , Rick GOP 1,593 1%
Roemer , Buddy GOP 862 0%
Total Write-ins GOP 768 0%

Read more: http://livewire.wmur.com/Event/New_Hampshire_Primary_Election_Results#ixzz1j90CQsTt

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #171 on: January 11, 2012, 12:21:16 PM »
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Ron Paul 2012 - What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul?

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #172 on: January 11, 2012, 04:45:30 PM »
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273 of 301 Precincts Reporting (91%)
Romney , Mitt GOP 90,230 39% - Projected Winner
Paul , Ron GOP 52,438 23%
Huntsman , Jon GOP 38,516 17%
Gingrich , Newt GOP 21,555 9%
Santorum , Rick GOP 21,383 9%
Perry , Rick GOP 1,593 1%
Roemer , Buddy GOP 862 0%
Total Write-ins GOP 768 0%

Read more: http://livewire.wmur.com/Event/New_Hampshire_Primary_Election_Results#ixzz1j90CQsTt


Mitt Romney 95,668 39.38%
Ron Paul 55,456 22.83%
Jon Huntsman 40,906    16.84%
Newt Gingrich 22,919 9.43%
Rick Santorum 22,706 9.35%
Rick Perry 1,710 0.70%
Buddy Roemer 918 0.38%
Write in 790   0.33%

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #173 on: January 11, 2012, 04:47:52 PM »
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Ardalani,

what are the number of delegates at stake? How many does mit romney get and how many does Ron Paul get, etc etc.

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #174 on: January 11, 2012, 04:59:01 PM »
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Ron Paul managed to turn Romney's 30 point lead to 16.5, nearly half.

Totals:
Mitt Momney | 125,683 | 34.4% | 23 delegates | 46%
Ron Paul | 81,675 | 22.4% | 10 delegates | 20%
Rick Santorum | 52,713 | 14.4% | 8 delegates | 16%
Jon Huntsman | 41,651 | 11.4% | 2 delegates | 4%
Newt Gingrich | 39,170 | 10.7% | 3 delegates | 6%
Rick Perry | 14,314 3.9% | 4 delegates | 8%
Delegates Needed to Win: 1,144

http://edition.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/scorecard/statebystate/r

Amounth of delegates per state can be found here:
http://www.demconwatchblog.com/upload/2012%20RNC%20Delegate%20Summary.pdf
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