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"''melate ma neshan dade'ast ke be hadaf haye khod momen, va dar rahe on, ta nesar'e jaan eestade'ast.. chenin melati, az america va az hiiich ghodrati nemitars'ad, va be yaari'e khoda neshan khahad daad ke pirooz az on' e hagh, va momenan be hagh ast!"

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"The West does not give us any useful thing. "
Where is the PC you are writing on produced?
The microchip?


US progress in science and technology is only an illusion created by Russian, Indian, Iranian, Chinese, Arab, etc engineers who work in US to achieve American Dream for their families.

The whole thing is crumbling down as arrogance prevents Americans to see a need for learning.

See how the bastards are behaving in the classrooms and you can see the end for West coming soon.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/04/teacher-punches-student_n_871112.html

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Oh my..
Oh my..


The US has an economy 50 times bigger than Iran, a military spending 100 bigger that Iran, they would come to Iran and bomb down the whole nation in a week down to 500 years ago.
The US engineers have invented the microchip, fiber optics, internet, almost all the science of the last 50 years in physics, informatics, biotech, mechanics and so on has been done by American, European and Japanese.
What invention has been done by Iran in the last 100 years?
Who invented plasma television?
Who invented jets?
Who invented nuclear energy?

And you post me a video about one school teacher who slapped a kid.

How many Iranians and how many Americans won the Nobel Prize?
Oh, yes, but it is the Swedish Academy who is bribed by the Evil Empire..

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What invention has been done by Iran in the last 100 years?

Laser, invented by an Iranian Immigrant.

Who invented jets?
Immigrant Jews from Germany!

Who invented nuclear energy?

Immigrant Jews from Germany!

Yes, the inventions have been done in US, but mostly trough imported brain power.
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Oh my..
Oh my..


The US has an economy 50 times bigger than Iran, a military spending 100 bigger that Iran, they would come to Iran and bomb down the whole nation in a week down to 500 years ago.
The US engineers have invented the microchip, fiber optics, internet, almost all the science of the last 50 years in physics, informatics, biotech, mechanics and so on has been done by American, European and Japanese.
What invention has been done by Iran in the last 100 years?
Who invented plasma television?
Who invented jets?
Who invented nuclear energy?

And you post me a video about one school teacher who slapped a kid.

How many Iranians and how many Americans won the Nobel Prize?
Oh, yes, but it is the Swedish Academy who is bribed by the Evil Empire..


You moron then what, you see everything in in computers and microchips... What could Iran do in this past 100 years when they have been use for the most of the time of western countries for there own agenda. Is now in the past 30 years that Iran have become a country producing it most stuff, become a top country in many fields. Is sad, cuz is moron and  idiot like you that make it possible for moron like Bush to become a president of a country like US, to be oki to kill innocent ppl, How is it that whit all these micro ship, fiber optics, internet, etc., that your beloved master American have they can not save all these 20 000 children who die daily around the around the world ...
You are once again threatened my beloved homeland,
I shall defend you until the last breath,
We embrace death if that's what it takes to save you, we have lived by Bushido code all along.

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Yes, the inventions have been done in US, but mostly trough imported brain power.

Almost 100% imported brain power, as 500 years ago the US was inhabited only by Native Americans

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You moron then what, you see everything in in computers and microchips... What could Iran do in this past 100 years when they have been use for the most of the time of western countries for there own agenda. Is now in the past 30 years that Iran have become a country producing it most stuff, become a top country in many fields. Is sad, cuz is moron and  idiot like you that make it possible for moron like Bush to become a president of a country like US, to be oki to kill innocent ppl, How is it that whit all these micro ship, fiber optics, internet, etc., that your beloved master American have they can not save all these 20 000 children who die daily around the around the world ...

To this guy I will not reply as I do not like being insulted

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Your an insult to yourself with your ignorant replies.

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To this guy I will not reply as I do not like being insulted

You dont like to be insulted!! Who have insulted you, i just told you the truth. I think see yourself in the mirror everyday is a insult to your self and your beloved mother...

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Today, the global message of the Islamic Revolution with emphasis on faith and freedom is inspiring people in the region, after negating the deviated doctrines of liberalism and socialism. Political analysts in the West are beginning to admit these facts.

(Ahlul Bayt News Agency) does have good thinking authors.

So right now Europe is "Liberal", Latin America is "Socialist" and Middle East is "Islamic". All 3 ideologies want to give people more freedom and justice.

I agree with such classification of modern political ideologies. What about China, "Communist"?
US, "Democratic"? Africa, "Tribal"?

Also, why "Liberalism" is deviated doctrine? The same freedom, same justice, only without religious control over state parlament.
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I agree with such classification of modern political ideologies. What about China, "Communist"?
US, "Democratic"? Africa, "Tribal"?

China is socialist, their communism is not a REAL true communism by any definition of it.

I don't know exactly what it is, but its not true communism.

Afrika is a mess.

America is fascist country. Their form of fascism is just really advanced, but it will be written down in history as a form of fascism.


Also, why "Liberalism" is deviated doctrine? The same freedom, same justice, only without religious control over state parlament.


If you read careful and understood the Islamic guidelines which govern society, it has to do with encroachment of freedoms on others.

For instance a child should have the freedom of not being exploited to sexually suggestive themes on advertisements throughout his childhood, which might lead him towards carnal desires which can end up detrimental for his future.

The whole idea of islamic governance is to give the most amount of freedom to people, without taking freedom away from others and freedoms which are detrimental to society.

Anyway, i don't wanna debate this. You just have to look at all the social problems in the west and realize the root cause of it is liberalism. By allowing people to do whatever they want, it enchroches on others freedomes and some people just don't know any better.

There is something called a herd behavior, which is present in humans as well as animals.  People will tend to follow the herd (pop culture) without knowing where it will lead them. When you allow for anyone to do anything, it can cause a deviant path of people who will take advantage of carnal desire of people for their own benefits and gains (for example advertisment, marketing, sexual innuendo in movies, music videos, magazines etc... )

There are some excellent points in this article regarding this.

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When you allow for anyone to do anything, it can cause a deviant path of people who will take advantage of carnal desire of people for their own benefits and gains (for example advertisment, marketing, sexual innuendo in movies, music videos, magazines etc... )

There are some excellent points in this article regarding this.

Yes, I understand. There is a small percent of deviant people in almost all countries. And Islamic state does not give them freedom to practice a deviant behaviour.

Also US is highly militaristic country, I agree. They spend 500 billion US dollars per year on military. That is why you perceive them as fascist. While US does not kill people like fascist do, some people strongly disagree with US idea of military interventions through UN authorisation. (See 2011 Libyan civil war).
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To this guy I will not reply as I do not like being insulted
see what I mean bro.... this is one example.... he truly is a moron...
Im Sunni by mind, Shia by Heart, and Muslim by soul! La Ellaha Ela Allah!

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While US does not kill people like fascist do, some people strongly disagree with US idea of military interventions through UN authorisation. (See 2011 Libyan civil war).


This argument should not occur on this thread, but just to let you know in America assassinations and killings occur very easily.

JFK, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, etc just to name a few really quickly.

Here is a list of massacres which have occurd in the US:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_in_the_United_States

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This argument should not occur on this thread, but just to let you know in America assassinations and killings occur very easily.

JFK, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, etc just to name a few really quickly.

Here is a list of massacres which have occurd in the US:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_in_the_United_States

and this is also important massacre made in the USof A http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege

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and this is also important massacre made in the USof A http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege

It's in the list provided brother.

I'm not sure the forced and coerced sterilization of african american women and native american women are in the list.

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It's in the list provided brother.
yes but I liked to outline it for its importance! Because this massacre happened with the same people in power today... the clintons!

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This argument should not occur on this thread, but just to let you know in America assassinations and killings occur very easily.

JFK, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, etc just to name a few really quickly.

Here is a list of massacres which have occurd in the US:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_in_the_United_States


You are quoting three murders happened decades and decades ago in a country with population of 300 million and show this as proof that there are many murders in the US?
You should show this, instead:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#Homicide

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America is fascist country. Their form of fascism is just really advanced, but it will be written down in history as a form of fascism.

Depends on who writes history

For instance a child should have the freedom of not being exploited to sexually suggestive themes on advertisements throughout his childhood, which might lead him towards carnal desires which can end up detrimental for his future.

Why are carnal desires detrimental?

The whole idea of islamic governance is to give the most amount of freedom to people, without taking freedom away from others and freedoms which are detrimental to society.

Who decide which freedoms are detrimental to human beings and which not?
What if I disagree with this?

There is something called a herd behavior, which is present in humans as well as animals.  People will tend to follow the herd (pop culture) without knowing where it will lead them. When you allow for anyone to do anything, it can cause a deviant path of people who will take advantage of carnal desire of people for their own benefits and gains (for example advertisment, marketing, sexual innuendo in movies, music videos, magazines etc... )

Carnal desires are good.
Without carnal desires you and I would not have been born.

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You are quoting three murders happened decades and decades ago

You seem to think a decade is long time, but you'r willing to use thousand year old histories to justify European Zionists invasion of palestine.

They are very relevant, since all those people were speaking of a form of fascism in America.

in a country with population of 300 million and show this as proof that there are many murders in the US?
You should show this, instead:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#Homicide


Do you know the difference between a homicide and an assassination?

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In addition to the sanctions on Iraq which killed 500,000 Iraqi children between 1991 and 1995 alone, the USA is responsible for millions of other deaths of children through the slow torture of disease and starvation.

This is because, as recorded in many places such as John Perkins "Confessions of an Economic Hitman," the USA has forced other countries into debt which causes mass starvation and disease on those countries. This is on top of the slaughter of native Americans, and working African slaves to death.

I have studied this in depth, and I do not know of any country that has caused as much death and pain as the USA, not even Mao with his alleged 50 million dead.

The idea that the USA does not kill, or is somehow not so bad, or is not as bad as some others is just a plain lack of knowledge of the details of the USA's imperialist history.

YMJ, does your source include the Tuskagee syphilis experiments where the US government injected poor black people with syphilis to study the spread of the disease? It is late and I don't have time to check.

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In addition to the sanctions on Iraq which killed 500,000 Iraqi children between 1991 and 1995 alone, the USA is responsible for millions of other deaths of children through the slow torture of disease and starvation.

Babak,
I do not like the US, but you are 100% ridiculous.
You do not realize that sanctions alone can not kill 500000 children?
How do you kill 500000 children with sanctions?
Do you think Iraq was not able to grow food and have cows with milk for their children?
You do not know that even governments in Africa can make simple medicines to prevent most children diseases?
If you keep saying that the US is responsible for the deaths for the Vesuvius volcano near Naples in 79 before Christ, nobody will belieive you..

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You seem to think a decade is long time, but you'r willing to use thousand year old histories to justify European Zionists invasion of palestine.

Break-up of Yugoslavia is not thousand years old.
Annexion of Mexico neither

They are very relevant, since all those people were speaking of a form of fascism in America.

Do you know the difference between a homicide and an assassination?

No, sorry, no time to check.

By the way, there are millions of people speaking about fascism in America, I also do.
What is the problem?

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Break-up of Yugoslavia is not thousand years old.
Annexion of Mexico neither

Mexico was settled.

Break of up Yugoslavia is completely different from europeans comming into the middle east and kicking the locals out

No, sorry, no time to check.


Clearly not, you only have time to make a fool out of yourself with your ignorance.

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