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Offline Pasdar

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« Reply #125 on: June 09, 2010, 10:45:08 AM »
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I have no issues with chosen lifestyle as long as it does not restrict/threaten other people. I

What comes to 2nd part, you have to read the previous post...
Governance is all about restriction. What is restricted depends on the type of governance. I just told you that I do not find myself crossing Iranian law even in the Netherlands and that If I express myself in the way I really am that I am in big trouble here. This obviously means I don't really belong here. Iranians in the west are probably the keenest people in hiding what they really think... were they not, life would have been different for many of us.

Anyway, what matters is that if you can not see yourself living under a certain type of governance... that you just shouldn't... move to wherever you're happy.

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« Reply #126 on: June 09, 2010, 12:18:15 PM »
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Anyway, what matters is that if you can not see yourself living under a certain type of governance... that you just shouldn't... move to wherever you're happy.

...or one can always revolt. There is nothing wrong in actively resisting authority, but one should also accept the consequences of such actions. The problem of the Iranian opposition is that they are cowards and lack ideological or religious drive, so they want change but only as long as someone else's kid dies for it.

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« Reply #127 on: June 09, 2010, 01:01:13 PM »
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A government which does not serve the people, has to be overthrown. That is the duty of all people who love their country and their people. I do not say that this is what should happen in Iran, but the right to exist, in case of governments, is based on those who are governed. In real democracy you vote them out, and if everything else fails... you annihilate them.
“I searched for God among the Christians and on the Cross and therein I found Him not. I went into the ancient temples of idolatry; no trace of Him was there. I entered the mountain cave of Hira and then went as far as Qandhar but God I found not. With set purpose I fared to the summit of Mount Caucasus and found there only 'anqa's habitation. Then I directed my search to the Kaaba, the resort of old and young; God was not there even. Turning to philosophy I inquired about him from ibn Sina but found Him not within his range. I fared then to the scene of the Prophet's experience of a great divine manifestation only a "two bow-lengths' distance from him" but God was not there even in that exalted court. Finally, I looked into my own heart and there I saw Him; He was nowhere else.”

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« Reply #128 on: June 09, 2010, 01:03:12 PM »
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Submission before the authority does that, bend over and swallow your pride... ain´t that sad?

Iranians in the west are probably the keenest people in hiding what they really think... were they not, life would have been different for many of us.

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« Reply #129 on: June 09, 2010, 01:29:02 PM »
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These are probably the only places where they get some people to the church:




Not exactly, the SGP is as the name says Staatskundig Gereformeerde Partij, not a Christian party in general but one of a particular branch of Christianity: Gereformeerd (reformed), the places you see in red here are really the strongholds of that branch of Christianity (were their followers are most numerous and most strict), so as you see they didn't get significant votes in the provinces of Brabant and Limburg, which are overwhelmingly Catholic, although these places are infact the main stronghold for the moderate CDA and the more religious CU.

But the SGP also doesn't have a very good image among mainstreem Dutch people, they are seen very much as religious extremists, they don't allow women in their election list, they've called for the Bible to become the highest law in the Netherlands (instead of the constitution) so most practicing Christians don't like them very much.
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« Reply #130 on: June 14, 2012, 10:42:23 AM »
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I'm Muslim and i just started praying yesterday, i must admit it takes discipline, and above all sincerity. But there is no way on earth im going to stop. I know i just started praying yesterday, but i do feel a subtle sense of peace already. My mind no longer yearns as much for things that are not important in life. I also feel physcologically more balanced when it comes to emotions; meaning i don't get too high or low. I now see more clearly and know what the true priorties in life are.

I want to remind all muslims that their lord, knows what's in your heart and your intentions. He takes into account everything you do. This life is but fleeting, do not choose this life over the hereafter.
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« Reply #131 on: June 14, 2012, 10:48:21 AM »
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Who is Prophet Muhammad ? من هو النبى محمد

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« Reply #132 on: June 15, 2012, 02:13:31 AM »
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@Palestinian,

Good for you brother.

I stopped praying salat for a while, and it was the saddest part of my life.

Then I remembered that I only have one life and one shot to serve God, and then it (the chance to serve God with free will when it is challenging to do so) is over for eternity.
I don't want to waste my time and throw it away my one life of free will on idle, trivial, temporal, insignificant pursuits.
So then I started the 5 daily salat again.

I'm grateful to God to have this opportunity to serve Him.
I'm grateful to God for the guidance and understanding of the true meaning of life.

I hope I can meet you in heaven so that I can say, "peace be upon you," and we can talk about how merciful God was to us.

Quran, Chapter 52, verses approximately 15 to 25:
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But in fair gardens the righteous shall dwell in bliss, rejoicing in what their Lord will have given them.
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They will converse with one another, 'When we were living among our kinfolk,' they will say, 'we were troubled by many fears. But God has been gracious to us; He has preserved us from the fiery scourge, for we have prayed to Him. He is the Beneficent One, the Merciful.'
Therefore, give warning.
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Truly, brother, I hope I can meet you in heaven and we can talk about how merciful God was to us.
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« Reply #133 on: June 15, 2012, 10:20:23 AM »
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@Palestinian,

Good for you brother.

I stopped praying salat for a while, and it was the saddest part of my life.

Then I remembered that I only have one life and one shot to serve God, and then it (the chance to serve God with free will when it is challenging to do so) is over for eternity.
I don't want to waste my time and throw it away my one life of free will on idle, trivial, temporal, insignificant pursuits.
So then I started the 5 daily salat again.

I'm gratefulto God to have this opportunity to serve Him.
I'm grateful to God for the guidance and understanding of the true meaning of life.

I hope I can meet you in heaven so that I can say, "peace be upon you," and we can talk about how merciful God was to us.

Quran, Chapter 52, verses approximately 15 to 25:
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But in fair gardens the righteous shall dwell in bliss, rejoicing in what their Lord will have given them.
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They will converse with one another, 'When we were living among our kinfolk,' they will say, 'we were troubled by many fears. But God has been gracious to us; He has preserved us from the fiery scourge, for we have prayed to Him. He is the Beneficent One, the Merciful.'
Therefore, give warning.
}


Truly, brother, I hope I can meet you in heaven and we can talk about how merciful God was to us.
I hope you return to prayer brother, and if God so blesses us and permits us to enter in heaven i would love to meet you.

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« Reply #134 on: June 20, 2012, 07:09:05 AM »
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My take:

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« Reply #135 on: August 01, 2012, 06:38:33 PM »
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I'm Armenia Apostolic Christian - the religion of the Armenian nation. The Apostolic Church though is separate from Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant denominations. We are part of the "Oriental Orthodox" branch in which falls Egyptians Copts and Syriac Christians.

In terms of how religious I am. I would say I am moderately religious, I do pray and attend church, I often have a small prayer book with me for prayers, I try in general to better my life by living with better values that I take from my Holy Book.
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« Reply #136 on: August 16, 2012, 07:38:11 PM »
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I am a Muslim Shi.ah (Shia) and practice my religious duties.
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« Reply #137 on: August 16, 2012, 07:51:58 PM »
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I don't understand why people have different religions when the god is the same.
god is the same in Islam, Christianity, Judaism ; they are all Abrahamic religions.
the first religion to create the Idea of a single creator,heaven and hell and god and evil was our own Iranian religion called Zoroastrianism. religion has culture of  particular nations associated with it, Islam has arabic culture initially and then Iranians contributed to islam greatly, but there is something even more we did for islam since Islam copied Zoroastrianism greatly so of course in the end Islam can be considered mainly a Iranian religion since it was made from our religion.

I am an atheist, but if I were to ever become religous I would pick Zoroastrianism, because it is a symbol of Iranian pride.
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« Reply #138 on: August 16, 2012, 08:41:46 PM »
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I don't understand why people have different religions when the god is the same.


Simple, because believing is not enough. God wants us to learn from His attributes, such as Creator, Justice, Forgiveness, etc.
When old message has became corrupted by unjust rulers, God has sent new messenger. Yazid tried to make Islam the religion of kings, and thus Imam Hossein Allehum Salam fought him to keep the true Islam alive.

Following the corrupted message means following the fossil of that religion since the spirit was killed by people in power.
Christianity that was preached by Jesus PBUH was killed by Greeks and since then mostly an empty shell has been practiced. Just look how today Christians are behaving and compare it to how Jesus PBUH was, you see that something is wrong. 

It is not that God send all the people who believe in Him to heaven. The standard is your deeds and your belief.

Al-Asr Sura in Quran sums this up. If a person can follow this verse recommendations there is a hope for him otherwise he will be among the losers.

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« Reply #139 on: August 16, 2012, 10:03:40 PM »
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I don't understand why people have different religions when the god is the same.
god is the same in Islam, Christianity, Judaism ; they are all Abrahamic religions.
the first religion to create the Idea of a single creator,heaven and hell and god and evil was our own Iranian religion called Zoroastrianism. religion has culture of  particular nations associated with it, Islam has arabic culture initially and then Iranians contributed to islam greatly, but there is something even more we did for islam since Islam copied Zoroastrianism greatly so of course in the end Islam can be considered mainly a Iranian religion since it was made from our religion.

I am an atheist, but if I were to ever become religous I would pick Zoroastrianism, because it is a symbol of Iranian pride.

Judaism took many ideas from Zoroastrianism and christianity and islam built upon from that.
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« Reply #140 on: August 17, 2012, 06:38:25 AM »
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traveling from place to place all my life , i never had a chance to associate myself with one character , be it culture or  religion ... my paternal family esp elders are all communist/socialist , i wont blame them , they belong to those times , none of my relatives are religious , though we call ourselves sunni muslims very proudly .... at some point in my later life when i started my career i started to think may be some part of me even has atheist tendencies ... this career or field is often regarded with such thing because of rationalism involved  ... i would call that period as dark times of my so far life .... whatever i did or achieved in that span , i was never happy or satisfied , there was a continuous discontent of spiritual nature like something is missing , empty , or whatever i do it will one day end with nothing for me ... anyways , after settling down with life ... my faith has strengthened back ... and i m noticing that i now have something to look forward to ... like there is no end to things i m doing here .... or it will go on .... i think one of the factor behind such will to return to faith was that i wanted to be an examplory parent to our infant child ... or he would grow up with the same discontent i felt growing up in faithless & secular social environment  .... esp early life ....

regarding the point of same God for all as someone mentioned above ... i would refer the book "History of God" by K.Armstrong ... excellent read ... IMO as we muslims say God is one ... he truly is one ... and is for everyone , not just us Muslims ...  these differences r because of human nature to clash & collide over ideas and character  ... even today we can see that religion is being associated with ethnicity and race .... shia iran , wahabi arabastan , jewish israel  , buddhist china ....  centuries of clash have effected maps and thats how difference have been created ... division after division has just caused bloodshed and destruction , nothing else .... I find basic faith above all that and ironically it has been long forgotten .... even today when we think of fighting in name of religion , we unintentionally r fighting in name of our overall character , religion is just a part of that .... otherwise can someone explain how come same sect , same faith countries have fought bloody wars ... with readily available info of past , todays youngster has high chances of getting frustrated with details of religion because rationally speaking it has done nothing for mankind .... even among islam , whats the difference between a shia and a sunni ... details and just that ... overall idea and basis is same .... difference of opinion over who should have been caliph ... lol ... we believe on events to prove which we have no evidence , offcourse none of us was standing and noting down what happened at Prophets (Pbuh/Saw) death .... even those who we call our later fgures who formed medhebs had no solid evidence ... so why even fight on things which we cant to prove to ourselves let alone doing that to defeat others .... i have prayed with hanbalis  , jafaris , hanafis  ... even though i dint had the religious sense that time but i felt no difference at all among the followers ... i m pretty sure if i ever decide to go to a temple or church i would find same ... Even if we accept athiests that Religion is a man made phenomenon , even then it is still all same ... God is still one ... but there is no one to tell that to masses ...



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« Reply #141 on: September 10, 2012, 05:45:21 PM »
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I am muslim (shia ) i am trying to practice my duties more and I like IRI (I thing it is a hope for all muslims and a great sample to followed )

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« Reply #142 on: November 04, 2012, 09:03:12 AM »
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Practicing Muslim. I don't like to focus much on sects, as I am hopeful of unity in the Ummah. However, I am from the Jaffari School of Thought.
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