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Offline mamdali

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« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2012, 08:40:24 PM »
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« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2012, 09:15:21 PM »
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Nice find..
Impressive nightstrike. It was so unlike you :D
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« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2012, 09:35:41 PM »
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Good work! Now got it although the challenge was presented to Mamdali who "knew" it;)



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Re: IRI's Emblem
« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2012, 09:42:48 PM »
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The center emblem is allah. The la illa il allah, can be made out of it. Very beautiful.

You should turn it upside down and see what you will see.
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« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2012, 11:17:56 PM »
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This was news to you guys? I remember reading about it in some geography book or something as a kid.

There is even a wiki on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emblem_of_Iran



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« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2012, 01:18:14 AM »
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So back to the derailed topic: any further references on my original post about using the emblem here and there (Bolbol thanks for the response.  Any links to that?).

Thanks!
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« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2012, 01:35:22 PM »
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So it is what I thought it was!

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« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2012, 06:49:10 PM »
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Back to the original question, there are shia rules against using holy words and texts on najis surfaces and the like.  The majority of the populace is not so vasvaas about it though.......
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Re: IRI's Emblem
« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2012, 07:07:27 PM »
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Quote from: WUDANGMASTER on April 17, 2012, 06:49:10 PM
Back to the original question, there are shia rules against using holy words and texts on najis surfaces and the like.  The majority of the populace is not so vasvaas about it though.......

Judging from the recent pictures with the emblem, it seems you might be correct.  It also seems things have changed paradoxically.  I recall, long ago, the population was much more sensitive about this sort of thing. So I'm somewhat surprised by this especially under the Islamic Government.

Regardless, I suppose these rules would be reflected in Tozeeh-ol-MasAel or other Marja-e-Taghleed sources?  I'm looking for an authoritative link.  My cursory search finds little on the subject probably mostly due to my poor search skills.

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Re: IRI's Emblem
« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2012, 08:07:29 PM »
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Quote from: mamdali on April 17, 2012, 07:07:27 PM
Judging from the recent pictures with the emblem, it seems you might be correct.  It also seems things have changed paradoxically.  I recall, long ago, the population was much more sensitive about this sort of thing. So I'm somewhat surprised by this especially under the Islamic Government.

Regardless, I suppose these rules would be reflected in Tozeeh-ol-MasAel or other Marja-e-Taghleed sources?  I'm looking for an authoritative link.  My cursory search finds little on the subject probably mostly due to my poor search skills.

Mamdali

Contact the Al-Khoei foundation and send an email question and their representatives will answer more or less along the lines of what we are saying here. 
Technically, it is not appropriate but many are simply not aware of these details....
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Re: IRI's Emblem
« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2012, 09:06:50 PM »
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Quote from: rouz on April 16, 2012, 11:17:56 PM
This was news to you guys? I remember reading about it in some geography book or something as a kid.

There is even a wiki on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emblem_of_Iran






Rouz-jan, I'll be surprised if any of this was new to most. It's almost the equivalent of motherhood and apple pie, especially to the old timers who lived through the birth of the IRI.
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Re: IRI's Emblem
« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2012, 10:49:08 PM »
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The center emblem says 'Allah' and there are 22 allah'u akbar. 11 under the green and 11 above the red. I think the 22 allahu akbars represent 22 of bahman. Being able to read la ila ha ill allah, is just a interpretation.

I don't think having allah on the flag is against any islamic laws. Consider other Islamic countries which also do this. If it was against islamic laws wouldn't the islamic scholars say something by now?

Also, what do muslims warship. The word allah, or allah herself? (mind you the quaran is different, we are merely talking about the word 'allah')

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Re: IRI's Emblem
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2012, 12:32:13 AM »
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Quote from: WUDANGMASTER on April 17, 2012, 08:07:29 PM
Contact the Al-Khoei foundation and send an email question and their representatives will answer more or less along the lines of what we are saying here. 
Technically, it is not appropriate but many are simply not aware of these details....

WUDANG-jan, thanks for the suggestion.
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Re: IRI's Emblem
« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2012, 01:49:28 AM »
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Quote from: mustavaris on April 16, 2012, 06:27:13 PM
لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله
 
الله أكبر

There is not god but Allah; Allahu akhbar... on the flag

correction and i must say this because it does have significance.

the arebic verse says : there is no god but god. contrary to what you wrote: there is no god but allah. the arabicworld allah generally implies god and it means exactly that with in this verse.
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« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2012, 03:14:34 AM »
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Semantics;)

+ Correct from non-Muslim point of view.

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Re: IRI's Emblem
« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2012, 03:30:32 AM »
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Quote from: mohsin on April 19, 2012, 01:49:28 AM
correction and i must say this because it does have significance.

the arebic verse says : there is no god but god. contrary to what you wrote: there is no god but allah. the arabicworld allah generally implies god and it means exactly that with in this verse.

Mohsin-jan, you are correct of course.  To add to it, and I'm sure you already know this, the magnitude of incorrectness posted by this person is far more than that. The script above contains more than 'there is no god but god' and 'allah-o-akbar'.  ;)

But again we digress.

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