I can't help but feel sorry for brothers like abdurrahmane, I'm not saying this with arrogance, by Allah,I'm saying it with the greatest of humility.I know how their minds work, how they are brought up, how they are taught.They brought up made to think only they are correct.As such when they read the hadith about how Muslims will be devided into 73 groups, of these groups only one will enter Jannah without having to answer to Allah. Why?Because they are taught only they are following Sunnah, hence they are Sunnis.Everybody else is wrong and will face Allah's wrath on the Day of Judgment, only they are saved.On the face of it, it sounds right and convincing when you listen to it. However when you dig deeper now, beyond the surface, you realise that what Allah and his Prophet says is not sometimes what the so called Sunnis do and say. You see when you want to know about any religion, you have to go read the source. Don't go to people who say they follow that religion, go get the information firsthand. In this case you have to read Quraan and Hadith. The first and foremost source in Islam is Quraan, Allah's word. The Quraan is above ANYTHING in Islam, the primary source. Then there is Hadith (what the Prophet said) and Sunnah (what the Prophet did).If we ALL stuck to these sources. If we all adopted the agenda fully as ets up by these sources, our problems both internally (among ourselves) and externally (between us and non-muslims), will disappear like foam in the ocean. As easy and as basic as Allah had made this Deen for us, its not enough for us. We just had to complicate it, to add our own 2 cents in there. We had to do our own things,not as measured against these primary sources, but what we inherit from our cultures or customs or norms. In order to clothe these evil and unIslamic practices, we clothe them with Islamic terminology, we label ourselves differently. This is the problem here in a nutshell.This 'clothing' is meant to deceive people who don't know any better. That's why its important to get information yourself from primary sources.Its not enough to accept what your scholars tell you. You need to verify what they telling you, so you teach yourself.In Islam, what matters is what Allah and His Prophet say, nothing else. If anybody or any scholar say something which is not based on what Allah and His Prophet say, their opinion or utterance means NOTHING.But because people don't read, they prefer shortcuts.They just elevate their scholars to the position of authority where whatever they say is accepted without question,simply because they are scholars. People are taking the responsibility of learning themselves and outsourcing it to their scholars. This is a disease that you find among Muslims, among Christians and the Jews.Muslims have their ulema, Christians have their Priests and Jews have their Rabbis. The reason these bodies exist is that they are made a source of reference. This is fine if these bodies rely on the right sources to base their pronouncements. This is not ALWAYS the case. This is the very big problem. The Rabbis led the Jews astray by exercising this power far beyond what they suppose to do.The same happened with Priests and Christians. Now we have Ulemas or scholars doing the exact same thing in Islam. Now these scholars work for dictators, they are on the payroll or these dictators. They are paid to mislead people. The ordinary Muslim doesn't understand what's going on.They just take things as they are told. The result is that you have people who can't reason, as described by Mo, because their scholars tell them soo,if they hear anything contrary to what they told they automatically reject it. They don't investigate issues, they don't think or reason.They are parrots,they have submitted themselves to the will of their scholars instead of Allah's. They go around calling other Muslims kaffirs and all sorts of names.If you try to reason with them, showing them where they are mistaken, you become Shaitan. There is no winning with such people.They are soo far deep in their brainwashing process, the process is complete. They are willing to kill or die for their point of view.This is not a matter of belief.Nobody needs to change any beliefs here. Among Muslims, this is the matter of those who follow what Allah and His Prophet say against those who like to appear as is they following Allah and His Prophet.I'm not going to go further and call people names.Its not my place.Allah will stand in Judgment of everybody.He will name people and sort all this mess up.I'm not going to waste time with naming.I rather discuss issues, where those that are mistaken have gotten it wrong.I prefer to spend time doing that.