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… I did not denounce anybody in particular it is right a warning statement on these sects stray which are numerous in the Moslem countries.
I am there not to show such or such person but to link us on Only one and even Voie which is That that Allah mentions in this verse:
 
You are by no means responsible for those which cause scissions in their religion to form sects dissenting. Their fate depends only on God who will put them, at the proper time, opposite their works. 
(S.6 V.159).


Thus return repenting towards the Lord! Fear and observe it salted it! Do not be amongst idolaters,
those which made burst their religion in sects different, so that each sect was put to be prevailed of its doctrines.
 (S.30 V.31-32).
 
You firmly attach all to the pact of God, and you do not divide. You point out the benefits that God granted to you when, of enemies who you were, It restored the union between your hearts and made you brothers, by an effect His grace, just as you were on the edge of an infernal pit and It saved you. Thus God exposes you clearly His signs so that you find the right way. (S.3 V.103)

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I predict...



...a ban lol


.. You should not put this kind of photography even as a joke because we do not mess with the association and the disbelief in Allah.
And the magicians (like the one in this picture) are kouffars mouchrik Billah.
The Prophet Muhammad (SAW) ad it:

Whoever goes to a light and asked him anything, his prayers will not be accepted for forty days and He that shall see and believes what he says, has indeed disbelieved in what has been revealed about Mohamed

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. And also if you could add Syria from Bashar Al Assad the dog in the list of countries (in the picture) who kills his people with his army!
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Brother stop fumbling and jumping all over the place.I'm asking you a direct question here,please give me a direct answer.Who exactly do you understand to be the Khawariij in this day in age?I have a reason why I'm asking you this.That website you asked me to visit is specialising on calling people Khawariij, even people who have done their bit for this Deen against the enemies of this Deen, your website condemns them. That's why I'm asking who the Khawariij are.Do you even know the definition of Khawariij,the dogs of Hell you talking about?Do you even know WHY they are called Khawariij?

Don't play around the verses of the Quraan throwing them around to hide your insinuations. The verses you quote have nothing to do with what I asked you. You not going to scare me away by randomly throwing verses of the Quraan at me without understanding them. Don't play around with Allah's Book.
None of you is a believer until he loves for his brother that which he loves for himself - The last Messenger

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Brother stop fumbling and jumping all over the place.I'm asking you a direct question here,please give me a direct answer.Who exactly do you understand to be the Khawariij in this day in age?I have a reason why I'm asking you this.That website you asked me to visit is specialising on calling people Khawariij, even people who have done their bit for this Deen against the enemies of this Deen, your website condemns them. That's why I'm asking who the Khawariij are.Do you even know the definition of Khawariij,the dogs of Hell you talking about?Do you even know WHY they are called Khawariij?

Don't play around the verses of the Quraan throwing them around to hide your insinuations. The verses you quote have nothing to do with what I asked you. You not going to scare me away by randomly throwing verses of the Quraan at me without understanding them. Don't play around with Allah's Book.

Moon-jan, I don't believe 'abouabderrahmane' is genuine.  He's is repeatedly spewing stock material easily found on the internet.  He's almost certainly a troll.  I won't waste time with him.

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(Note:  I hope I'm being redundant by saying that given the state of misinformation and factless and unsupported content that is rife on the 'internet' today, naturally, I cannot endorse, believe, support, or accept any of links posted by me or others.  I personally find them interesting, however, as they open new perspectives for me.  I leave it to the reader to glean what they can or want from them).

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The thought did cross my mind Mamdali but I rather chose to err on the side of caution.

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Brother stop fumbling and jumping all over the place.I'm asking you a direct question here,please give me a direct answer.Who exactly do you understand to be the Khawariij in this day in age?I have a reason why I'm asking you this.That website you asked me to visit is specialising on calling people Khawariij, even people who have done their bit for this Deen against the enemies of this Deen, your website condemns them. That's why I'm asking who the Khawariij are.Do you even know the definition of Khawariij,the dogs of Hell you talking about?Do you even know WHY they are called Khawariij?

Don't play around the verses of the Quraan throwing them around to hide your insinuations. The verses you quote have nothing to do with what I asked you. You not going to scare me away by randomly throwing verses of the Quraan at me without understanding them. Don't play around with Allah's Book.


.. Excuse me but do you know what I'm saying or is it a robot translator who translated me wrong?
I will say I do not think anyone in particular and it's not that I condemn Khawarij but the rafidhas the mourtazilas the takfiryyines, etc. ....
It was an example of one of the most misguided sects and most dangerous, that's it!
Incister stops on this point because I told you it was an example.
In any case your reaction surprises me because for a person claiming to be educated who seeks the truth and fighting all sects lost and looking to be on the path of our pious predecessors, you seem very insensitive to my convictions of this sect !

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.....Don't play around the verses of the Quraan throwing them around to hide your insinuations. The verses you quote have nothing to do with what I asked you. You not going to scare me away by randomly throwing verses of the Quraan at me without understanding them. Don't play around with Allah's Book.

... and stop saying that I play because I'm not here to play and it is rather you who plays did not answer me with dalils from the Kitab and Sunnah according to the understanding of our Salaf assalih but with your feelings.

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I seem insensitive to your conviction of what sect?I don't think there is a point in carrying on with this discussion. We don't seem to understand eachother here.

I never made this discussion about my feelings.I was asking you questions, since you came here like a cowboy from the wild west telling people they should change their belief,that you failed to answer. I asked you what language you speak and I can't even get an answer to that.You can't answer any questions I asked you.I didn't get even one answer. Therefore I'm going to stop here with you.

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I seem insensitive to your conviction of what sect?I don't think there is a point in carrying on with this discussion. We don't seem to understand eachother here.

I never made this discussion about my feelings.I was asking you questions, since you came here like a cowboy from the wild west telling people they should change their belief,that you failed to answer. I asked you what language you speak and I can't even get an answer to that.You can't answer any questions I asked you.I didn't get even one answer. Therefore I'm going to stop here with you.
bro... he is a wahhabi... im telling you I can smell his intentions one mile away... and this guy is trying change our belief before even asking who we are! I might have went over board with him and called him kafer... but I learned my lesson from these zionsits lover first hand, and I saw how evil they can turn out to be, I never thought evil like that existed in this world today. but I guess I was proved wrong again.... and from experience I know who this person is before he even made his first post!
Im Sunni by mind, Shia by Heart, and Muslim by soul! La Ellaha Ela Allah!

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Those guys in jail really traumatized you brother. But I'm sure you handled them well.These people don't understand what's happening brother, what's happening in the world now is very serious. Instead they busy themselves with trifles wasting time discussing very stupid things.They operate on a different level...lol...not our real world level.I know how some of these guys think.They won't even have time to talk or discuss anything with someone who differs from them.Because this brother came here and said he supports Iran in her stand against Zionist I thought he was different.I was really interested to hear his point of view because he came across very strong in his position.So I probed him trying to reason with him but it didn't work out.He is like a parrot that just rehash everything without processing the information in his mind.This is how they are conditioned, they mustnt ask questions, they mustnt think.They just told they right and stand for haqq and they believe that.They leave out questions like why they on the right and what makes them truthful.That's why they can't have a civil discussion with anyone, they always resort to threats.Well that doesn't wash with me.I only fear Allah and none else.When I became Muslim I testified to Allah as my Lord and the Prophethood of His Messenger.This is what I stand with,not any other human being.Nobody has authority to dictate to anybody anything Islamically. These pious predecessors he is talking about I don't know about them.Allah will Judge them and reward them if they pious. Its between them and Allah, not me. When they pious, they doing it for Allah to save them, not to throw their piety around like a badge. What is amazing with these pious people is that when its crunch time you don't see them anywhere. Do you see them fighting these Zionists invading Muslim lands and killing Muslims?No!What is piety about?Is piety the way you look?Is piety walking around acting self-righteous?Is piety calling people names and elevating yourself above them?Is piety staying in the cave and labeling everything morden haraam?Allah and His Rasool is enough for me. Allah said He completed this Deen in Surah Baqarah,I believe and accept that. I don't need pious sheiks who don't know what they talking about whose purpose is to divide the Ummah and introduce their own doctrines into Deen.What Allah says doesn't matter now, what Allah's Prophet says doesn't matter now. All we here about is these faceless anonymous pious people and what they say. Allah gave us this Deen 100% pure, on the Day of Judgement He will expect us to have lived it as He gave us. Those that exceeded His bounds, He will deal with them the way He deems fit.

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Yes Brother, those wahhabi zionists really got to me... I wish I had a camera to record what he said... and when I was arguing with him regarding the ahadiths... most people in jail never knew that Aiysha was (what the wahhabis claim) 8 years of age when the Rasoul took her in (stakhfirallah!) and they never knew anything about the camel piss.... and then this wahhabi scum starting calling me kafer, and telling me he had the right to cut my throat! I was shocked to see a so called "shiek" react this way... especially someone representing Islam, and preaching every friday to the prisoners.... but the good thing is all the arabs saw him for he really  was and backed me up 100%! and another good thing is I know what a wahhabi is face to face now! when I mentioned bahrain to him in the begging he called all shia Kuffar! I was like what!!!!???

I was too kind to people even that bastard in prison, when I left prison, all my clothes went to the arabs... I left with jeans and shirt and even flipflops.... I didnt think about my self in any way... all I thought about was the people inside! I felt a heavy burden on my shoulders for some guys inside there! But that wahhabi was the only one I had a fight with... he really gave me a general opinion on all wahhabis...  he introduced him self like the shaitan brother! So friendly and so kind, just because I was sunni.... then when he knew I opposed his ideas he showed his true colors.... and this is how this guy is acting... once u oppose what they have to say to you... you are a dog to them at most!

I just dont know bro... I can never bring my self to feel sorry for people like that! they are what they are, and they are taught to be what they choose to be... may Allah forgive them! thats all I can say...

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You see brother the biggest advantage these sheiks have over their followers is that generally their followers don't know a lot about their Islam.They don't spend time reading Quraan and doing Tafseer, reading Seerah.This is the biggest problem.These sheiks don't use Quraan a lot when they preach, they use shaddy ahadith to back up or justify their preaching.They know that people they talking to don't know much!So they have a free reign on innocent people.That's why I was stressing that every Muslim must know the basics of his Deen at least, to avoid being fed poison. You need to equip yourself brother, otherwise you going to be misled.Knowing your Deen is important brother, its very important.

I can imagine this guy intimidating you.You were threatening his power-base, its a status thing brother.Once you question him, you challenging him and his authority.He is going to go really mad.That's why he called you kaffer.You were cutting very close to the bone.These people are not just innocent ignorant Muslims brother.They are siding with Zionists for crying out loud.They working with Dajjal.They are small dajjals!They are mutilating the Deen from inside! They are more dangerous than Americans dropping bombs on us.This is the thing with them.They pushing a different agenda than what they suppose to preach.Its no longer a question of a misunderstanding or a different point of view.It has gone far beyond that with these people.They are in the army of Dajjal.Now what do you do?Dajjal will kill every son, every daughter, every mother, every father, anybody standing on his way.He wants COMPLETE authority brother.He won't accept people sitting on the fence.Its either people will submit to his authority or not, if you don't he will kill you.There is no grey area with him, its a matter of black and white.They killing and cruelty happening now will get worse, much worse before things change.Instead of these sheiks warning the Muslims about this fitnah, they teach them about other things, stupid things.So Muslims are offguard.They become easy prey for Dajjal.This is very scary stuff brother. Therefore when you hear people obsessing with issues other than what Allah and His Rasool WARNED them about, you can't help but shiver about what's going to happen.The state of the Muslims is not like this by accident, its deliberate brother.Disconnecting Muslims with their Creator is the first step, once they disconnected when Dajjal comes its going to be very easy for him.These sheiks are doing work, but not Allah's work.Even with what's happening now in the Muslim world.Its not about oil brother in the bigger picture.Its about subjugating Muslims to their authority.They not worried about other people, they after Muslims.They after us.Why?Why destroy Afghanistan?Afghanistan is just mountains and mud houses.Why invade it and occupy it?Somalia, why do you think its this way?Somalia like Afghanistan has no oil, nothing but its dismantled.The Taliban stood up to the US by refusing to hand Bin Laden.You don't do that with Dajjal.He comes after you.Somalia has a working government till the 80s, when the US decided to reject the Somali government.Somalia has never recovered since.They starting with all the weak Muslim countries and working their way up.I'm talking about those Muslim countries who stand up to Dajjal.Iraq also, they used Saddam to attack Iran, when he turned on Kuwait they got scarred he will now invade Saudi.They attacked him.They didn't finish him off untill recently.Now they moving to next level, going after Syria that is a little stronger.They want to change the government there to make it Zionist.They after Syria now.They won't let it go.Its all an agenda to pave the way.Its a long story but their last target is Iran, the last standing symbol of defiance.Once they osrted all the small problems, weak Muslim countries, they will turn to Iran.But Allah is the Best of Planners.He is watching,He is with us.Anyway I'm off the topic now, this is a long story which deserves its own thread.   

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You see brother the biggest advantage these sheiks have over their followers is that generally their followers don't know a lot about their Islam.They don't spend time reading Quraan and doing Tafseer, reading Seerah.This is the biggest problem.These sheiks don't use Quraan a lot when they preach, they use shaddy ahadith to back up or justify their preaching.They know that people they talking to don't know much!So they have a free reign on innocent people.That's why I was stressing that every Muslim must know the basics of his Deen at least, to avoid being fed poison. You need to equip yourself brother, otherwise you going to be misled.Knowing your Deen is important brother, its very important.

I can imagine this guy intimidating you.You were threatening his power-base, its a status thing brother.Once you question him, you challenging him and his authority.He is going to go really mad.That's why he called you kaffer.You were cutting very close to the bone.These people are not just innocent ignorant Muslims brother.They are siding with Zionists for crying out loud.They working with Dajjal.They are small dajjals!They are mutilating the Deen from inside! They are more dangerous than Americans dropping bombs on us.This is the thing with them.They pushing a different agenda than what they suppose to preach.Its no longer a question of a misunderstanding or a different point of view.It has gone far beyond that with these people.They are in the army of Dajjal.Now what do you do?Dajjal will kill every son, every daughter, every mother, every father, anybody standing on his way.He wants COMPLETE authority brother.He won't accept people sitting on the fence.Its either people will submit to his authority or not, if you don't he will kill you.There is no grey area with him, its a matter of black and white.They killing and cruelty happening now will get worse, much worse before things change.Instead of these sheiks warning the Muslims about this fitnah, they teach them about other things, stupid things.So Muslims are offguard.They become easy prey for Dajjal.This is very scary stuff brother. Therefore when you hear people obsessing with issues other than what Allah and His Rasool WARNED them about, you can't help but shiver about what's going to happen.The state of the Muslims is not like this by accident, its deliberate brother.Disconnecting Muslims with their Creator is the first step, once they disconnected when Dajjal comes its going to be very easy for him.These sheiks are doing work, but not Allah's work.Even with what's happening now in the Muslim world.Its not about oil brother in the bigger picture.Its about subjugating Muslims to their authority.They not worried about other people, they after Muslims.They after us.Why?Why destroy Afghanistan?Afghanistan is just mountains and mud houses.Why invade it and occupy it?Somalia, why do you think its this way?Somalia like Afghanistan has no oil, nothing but its dismantled.The Taliban stood up to the US by refusing to hand Bin Laden.You don't do that with Dajjal.He comes after you.Somalia has a working government till the 80s, when the US decided to reject the Somali government.Somalia has never recovered since.They starting with all the weak Muslim countries and working their way up.I'm talking about those Muslim countries who stand up to Dajjal.Iraq also, they used Saddam to attack Iran, when he turned on Kuwait they got scarred he will now invade Saudi.They attacked him.They didn't finish him off untill recently.Now they moving to next level, going after Syria that is a little stronger.They want to change the government there to make it Zionist.They after Syria now.They won't let it go.Its all an agenda to pave the way.Its a long story but their last target is Iran, the last standing symbol of defiance.Once they osrted all the small problems, weak Muslim countries, they will turn to Iran.But Allah is the Best of Planners.He is watching,He is with us.Anyway I'm off the topic now, this is a long story which deserves its own thread.



... instead of raving and talking without proof of the Dajjal and other mystical things you crave among Shiites, I send you this link that you can bring calm and where unlike you (who speaks no evidence from the Kitab and the Sunnah) there is evidence of unbelief and innovations of your so-called Shiite scholars:

http://minhaj-sunnite.over-blog.com/article-chiite-l-egarement-dans-leur-livre-avec-scan-67669846.html

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I studied my Deen for years and I'm still studying it. I was analysing here,I wasn't giving a lecture. If you have an issue with anything I said, point it out so I can bring you proof from everywhere. I don't mean to brag but I know what Im talking about and I UNDERSTAND it and I have Allah to thank for that. You have nothing of value that you can add here. That's why I stopped talking to you.

By the way you are in no position to judge the Shias or anybody. You first need to understand what you talking about, then you can come 'correct' the Shias. You need help yourself more than Shias. Forget the Shias and start with yourself.You can't articulate anything and you can't answer any question, even simple questions.I asked you to invite your sheiks here, all of them and we will have a chat.Maybe they can be able to answer questions here.You can't scare us here with your perverse understanding of Islam.You can't take a chance here.

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I studied my Deen for years and I'm still studying it. I was analysing here,I wasn't giving a lecture. If you have an issue with anything I said, point it out so I can bring you proof from everywhere. I don't mean to brag but I know what Im talking about and I UNDERSTAND it and I have Allah to thank for that. You have nothing of value that you can add here. That's why I stopped talking to you.

By the way you are in no position to judge the Shias or anybody. You first need to understand what you talking about, then you can come 'correct' the Shias. You need help yourself more than Shias. Forget the Shias and start with yourself.You can't articulate anything and you can't answer any question, even simple questions.I asked you to invite your sheiks here, all of them and we will have a chat.Maybe they can be able to answer questions here.You can't scare us here with your perverse understanding of Islam.You can't take a chance here.



... it's you who claim, well since you say be right when the link with dementia of the evidence against the alleged Shiite scholars and refernce book that is in the link I have t 'I send and reinserted again because apparently you are someone who refuses to see the truth in the face?

http://minhaj-sunnite.over-blog.com/article-chiite-l-egarement-dans-leur-livre-avec-scan-67669846.html


....and you can do a little effort to translate this if you are sincere with me since the beginning jel'ai made ​​to correspond with you!

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...... and this dog Shiite rafidhi :






...that insults the two greatest Companions of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) which he (the Prophet) guarantee them Paradise and they resurrect with Him in the same place:

The Prophet (صلى الله عليه و سلم) said: "Abu Bakr and Omar will be the guides of all adult men in Paradise: from first to last, but the prophets and messengers of God." (Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah, Ibn Sa'd, Ahmad)

This is why you and the likes of you have not and will not learn how to stand up to the real threats that the Zionist have infested your coutries.
You guys are too simple and too nieve to see how you been used by your BS leaders to have you guys join the people who do and have stood up for the real opperisson in the Middle East.
But no all you guys can do is call the Shites dogs and ect.....

I told you I will not stand here and have you insults the members and our belifs.

Go away and never come back. I am even going to ban your IP. Go and countine to get used by Izrael and the west while you are being used and raped by them.
enjoy it because every single person that thinks like you then you will countinue to get raped and inslaved by the Zionist and the West.
Likes of you are too stupid to see that what Iran did in 10 years was more than what people like you could not do in centries.

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You see brother the biggest advantage these sheiks have over their followers is that generally their followers don't know a lot about their Islam.They don't spend time reading Quraan and doing Tafseer, reading Seerah.This is the biggest problem.These sheiks don't use Quraan a lot when they preach, they use shaddy ahadith to back up or justify their preaching.They know that people they talking to don't know much!So they have a free reign on innocent people.That's why I was stressing that every Muslim must know the basics of his Deen at least, to avoid being fed poison. You need to equip yourself brother, otherwise you going to be misled.Knowing your Deen is important brother, its very important.

I can imagine this guy intimidating you.You were threatening his power-base, its a status thing brother.Once you question him, you challenging him and his authority.He is going to go really mad.That's why he called you kaffer.You were cutting very close to the bone.These people are not just innocent ignorant Muslims brother.They are siding with Zionists for crying out loud.They working with Dajjal.They are small dajjals!They are mutilating the Deen from inside! They are more dangerous than Americans dropping bombs on us.This is the thing with them.They pushing a different agenda than what they suppose to preach.Its no longer a question of a misunderstanding or a different point of view.It has gone far beyond that with these people.They are in the army of Dajjal.Now what do you do?Dajjal will kill every son, every daughter, every mother, every father, anybody standing on his way.He wants COMPLETE authority brother.He won't accept people sitting on the fence.Its either people will submit to his authority or not, if you don't he will kill you.There is no grey area with him, its a matter of black and white.They killing and cruelty happening now will get worse, much worse before things change.Instead of these sheiks warning the Muslims about this fitnah, they teach them about other things, stupid things.So Muslims are offguard.They become easy prey for Dajjal.This is very scary stuff brother. Therefore when you hear people obsessing with issues other than what Allah and His Rasool WARNED them about, you can't help but shiver about what's going to happen.The state of the Muslims is not like this by accident, its deliberate brother.Disconnecting Muslims with their Creator is the first step, once they disconnected when Dajjal comes its going to be very easy for him.These sheiks are doing work, but not Allah's work.Even with what's happening now in the Muslim world.Its not about oil brother in the bigger picture.Its about subjugating Muslims to their authority.They not worried about other people, they after Muslims.They after us.Why?Why destroy Afghanistan?Afghanistan is just mountains and mud houses.Why invade it and occupy it?Somalia, why do you think its this way?Somalia like Afghanistan has no oil, nothing but its dismantled.The Taliban stood up to the US by refusing to hand Bin Laden.You don't do that with Dajjal.He comes after you.Somalia has a working government till the 80s, when the US decided to reject the Somali government.Somalia has never recovered since.They starting with all the weak Muslim countries and working their way up.I'm talking about those Muslim countries who stand up to Dajjal.Iraq also, they used Saddam to attack Iran, when he turned on Kuwait they got scarred he will now invade Saudi.They attacked him.They didn't finish him off untill recently.Now they moving to next level, going after Syria that is a little stronger.They want to change the government there to make it Zionist.They after Syria now.They won't let it go.Its all an agenda to pave the way.Its a long story but their last target is Iran, the last standing symbol of defiance.Once they osrted all the small problems, weak Muslim countries, they will turn to Iran.But Allah is the Best of Planners.He is watching,He is with us.Anyway I'm off the topic now, this is a long story which deserves its own thread.   
                    This is a great post brother right from your heart.You really made the point here I totally agree.+1 rep

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You see brother the biggest advantage these sheiks have over their followers is that generally their followers don't know a lot about their Islam.They don't spend time reading Quraan and doing Tafseer, reading Seerah.This is the biggest problem.These sheiks don't use Quraan a lot when they preach, they use shaddy ahadith to back up or justify their preaching.They know that people they talking to don't know much!So they have a free reign on innocent people.That's why I was stressing that every Muslim must know the basics of his Deen at least, to avoid being fed poison. You need to equip yourself brother, otherwise you going to be misled.Knowing your Deen is important brother, its very important.

I can imagine this guy intimidating you.You were threatening his power-base, its a status thing brother.Once you question him, you challenging him and his authority.He is going to go really mad.That's why he called you kaffer.You were cutting very close to the bone.These people are not just innocent ignorant Muslims brother.They are siding with Zionists for crying out loud.They working with Dajjal.They are small dajjals!They are mutilating the Deen from inside! They are more dangerous than Americans dropping bombs on us.This is the thing with them.They pushing a different agenda than what they suppose to preach.Its no longer a question of a misunderstanding or a different point of view.It has gone far beyond that with these people.They are in the army of Dajjal.Now what do you do?Dajjal will kill every son, every daughter, every mother, every father, anybody standing on his way.He wants COMPLETE authority brother.He won't accept people sitting on the fence.Its either people will submit to his authority or not, if you don't he will kill you.There is no grey area with him, its a matter of black and white.They killing and cruelty happening now will get worse, much worse before things change.Instead of these sheiks warning the Muslims about this fitnah, they teach them about other things, stupid things.So Muslims are offguard.They become easy prey for Dajjal.This is very scary stuff brother. Therefore when you hear people obsessing with issues other than what Allah and His Rasool WARNED them about, you can't help but shiver about what's going to happen.The state of the Muslims is not like this by accident, its deliberate brother.Disconnecting Muslims with their Creator is the first step, once they disconnected when Dajjal comes its going to be very easy for him.These sheiks are doing work, but not Allah's work.Even with what's happening now in the Muslim world.Its not about oil brother in the bigger picture.Its about subjugating Muslims to their authority.They not worried about other people, they after Muslims.They after us.Why?Why destroy Afghanistan?Afghanistan is just mountains and mud houses.Why invade it and occupy it?Somalia, why do you think its this way?Somalia like Afghanistan has no oil, nothing but its dismantled.The Taliban stood up to the US by refusing to hand Bin Laden.You don't do that with Dajjal.He comes after you.Somalia has a working government till the 80s, when the US decided to reject the Somali government.Somalia has never recovered since.They starting with all the weak Muslim countries and working their way up.I'm talking about those Muslim countries who stand up to Dajjal.Iraq also, they used Saddam to attack Iran, when he turned on Kuwait they got scarred he will now invade Saudi.They attacked him.They didn't finish him off untill recently.Now they moving to next level, going after Syria that is a little stronger.They want to change the government there to make it Zionist.They after Syria now.They won't let it go.Its all an agenda to pave the way.Its a long story but their last target is Iran, the last standing symbol of defiance.Once they osrted all the small problems, weak Muslim countries, they will turn to Iran.But Allah is the Best of Planners.He is watching,He is with us.Anyway I'm off the topic now, this is a long story which deserves its own thread.   
Thank you brother Moon for this long post... truly from the heart.... and I agree with you 100%... I guess I have to know my religion more! I am very sorry to take so much time from you... but these guys are really frustrating like you said creating division between muslims today.... Its sad really, and mostly scary!

...... and this dog Shiite rafidhi :




... instead of raving and talking without proof of the Dajjal and other mystical things you crave among Shiites, I send you this link that you can bring calm and where unlike you (who speaks no evidence from the Kitab and the Sunnah) there is evidence of unbelief and innovations of your so-called Shiite scholars:



you are really asking for it insulting my brothers like this... I reported you and I hope by tomorrow the moderators see how you are acting and bringing ridicule to your self and insulting others in the process! SERIOUSLY SHAME ON YOU!

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You see what I'm saying with these people?They are planted and trained to divide the Ummah! That's why I'm saying its not just a matter of differing opinions here, it more than that.These people are destroying the Deen of Allah from inside and dividing Muslims.Its easy for them to insult Shias and call them dogs, for what?What big a crime did the Shias commit to be called dogs?Why soo much hatred against the Shias?They hate the very people standing up against Dajjal.Who do you think they working for?Allah says believers shouldn't take Jews and Christians as allies because they are allies of one another.This is from Quraan,Allah's Word.But look at what's happening, look who is making allies with who!Look who is making allies with Jews and Christians plotting against their fellow Muslims!Look around and see what's happening. This is not about Shia vs Sunni.It has nothing to do with that brother.Its Islam vs Kufr, truth vs hypocracy, light vs corruption. This is a war against Allah's religion.Don't fall for the anti-Shia rhetoric, its a diversion brother to keep Muslims divided and killing eachother for what?What for brother?So that while Muslims kill eachother, they won't have time fighting for a common cause against enemies of Islam. They will be busy slaughtering eachother.Like I said what's happening with Muslims is not an accident.Its made to be like this deliberately.We being deliberately setup to fight eachother....ask yourself why!Its about desteoying Muslims, rich or poor.

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Yes moon , I agree . I think muslims must learn to use their reason and understanding and logic . Instead of  just following blindly this or that . Not  only must they  use reason  to  understand their parents , but also leaders    and Imams and threir  prophet ( pbuh ) , but most importantly the Qur'an itself . I think basic education system in many countries neglects  important works of philosophy and logic . Children can learn this from early age , same as they can learn calculus when they are five years old ! ( the best age to learn a new language ) . When a child learn basic reasoning , the world becomes  understandable  to them . Most children are thought parrot fashion because their teacher also lacks basic logic ability . The child can learn science at much earlier age , if it was upto me , I allow them to learn Aristotle at five !
Error is inconsistent with my prime function .

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You see what I'm saying with these people?They are planted and trained to divide the Ummah! That's why I'm saying its not just a matter of differing opinions here, it more than that.These people are destroying the Deen of Allah from inside and dividing Muslims.Its easy for them to insult Shias and call them dogs, for what?What big a crime did the Shias commit to be called dogs?Why soo much hatred against the Shias?They hate the very people standing up against Dajjal.Who do you think they working for?Allah says believers shouldn't take Jews and Christians as allies because they are allies of one another.This is from Quraan,Allah's Word.But look at what's happening, look who is making allies with who!Look who is making allies with Jews and Christians plotting against their fellow Muslims!Look around and see what's happening. This is not about Shia vs Sunni.It has nothing to do with that brother.Its Islam vs Kufr, truth vs hypocracy, light vs corruption. This is a war against Allah's religion.Don't fall for the anti-Shia rhetoric, its a diversion brother to keep Muslims divided and killing eachother for what?What for brother?So that while Muslims kill eachother, they won't have time fighting for a common cause against enemies of Islam. They will be busy slaughtering eachother.Like I said what's happening with Muslims is not an accident.Its made to be like this deliberately.We being deliberately setup to fight eachother....ask yourself why!Its about desteoying Muslims, rich or poor.


... but because this pseudo mollah is a dog and those who think like him is to say that Abu Bakr and Omar Ibn Al Khattab are cowards and rats are too.
And you, or you're an ignoramus who does not understand anything he said and xe in this case before criticizing you should take courses in Arabic language and religion (and especially not with people like this clown) or you're a pervert that purports to seek the truth but actually did not intend.

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Yes moon , I agree . I think muslims must learn to use their reason and understanding and logic . Instead of  just following blindly this or that . Not  only must they  use reason  to  understand their parents , but also leaders    and Imams and threir  prophet ( pbuh ) , but most importantly the Qur'an itself . I think basic education system in many countries neglects  important works of philosophy and logic . Children can learn this from early age , same as they can learn calculus when they are five years old ! ( the best age to learn a new language ) . When a child learn basic reasoning , the world becomes  understandable  to them . Most children are thought parrot fashion because their teacher also lacks basic logic ability . The child can learn science at much earlier age , if it was upto me , I allow them to learn Aristotle at five !

... I do not know where you saw that I said it was stupid to follow a particular uléma ?
But we should certainly not run as you say the reason or logic before the evidence from the Qur'an and Hadith.

Give notice of case law (fatwa) without knowledge.

It is forbidden to give notice of case law (fatwa) without knowledge even if it proved correct, according to what is said in the hadith:

   من قال في القرءان برأيه فقد أخطأ ولو أصاب

(man qala fi l-Qur'an bira'yihi faqad 'akhta'a wa law' Asab)

[Reported by At-Tirmidhiyy] which means "He who interprets the Qur'an according to his personal opinion, he made ​​a mistake even if what he said is correct," and in the hadith:

   من أفتى بغير علم لعنته ملائكة السماء والأرض

  (man 'afta ghayri bi ^ ^ anathou mala'ikatou Ilmin the s-sama')

[Reported by Ibn Açakir ^] which means "He who gives fatwa without knowledge, the angels of heaven and earth curse him."

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They will never be able to split us up, because we are unite by justice and fairness and the law of God.
We are not united because we are or are not Shites or Suniies but because we are Muslim.
We are not united because we are or are not Iranian or Arab (or any other race) but because we are human beings.
They will never split our unity. It doesn't matter if it is like this backward Wahhabi lover or the Green Fart movement. All these groups have one thing in common and that is that they are being played with the Zionsit PIGs and the West but we see them for what they are and who they are.
Why can they not see that what Iran has done in 30 years is far more than these Wahhabi lovers and the likes could not do in 1000 years.
Let them go and rot in there own self delusion and under the shadow of Zionist PIGs. One day people like him will be but nothing more than a page in the history books teaching our childern how their own kind betrayed their own blood, nation and religion.
Most of all may Allah have mercey on them for the misery and pain they have caused their own people and kind.
There are times like these where the resolve of a Nation is shown clearly to the world. Oh this great Nation of Iran together with its proud citizens showed the world that when the Silent Majority gets rattled the world better pay attention:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ls4I37lQrw&feature=player_embedded#at=42  2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbYqckFvUJI&feature=player_embedded   2010

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This brings back sooooo much memory and tears to my eyes.
http://www.iranclip.com/player/169

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They will never be able to split us up, because we are unite by justice and fairness and the law of God.
We are not united because we are or are not Shites or Suniies but because we are Muslim.
We are not united because we are or are not Iranian or Arab (or any other race) but because we are human beings.
They will never split our unity. It doesn't matter if it is like this backward Wahhabi lover or the Green Fart movement. All these groups have one thing in common and that is that they are being played with the Zionsit PIGs and the West but we see them for what they are and who they are.
Why can they not see that what Iran has done in 30 years is far more than these Wahhabi lovers and the likes could not do in 1000 years.
Let them go and rot in there own self delusion and under the shadow of Zionist PIGs. One day people like him will be but nothing more than a page in the history books teaching our childern how their own kind betrayed their own blood, nation and religion.
Most of all may Allah have mercey on them for the misery and pain they have caused their own people and kind.

^ x2

well said.

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