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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #75 on: February 06, 2012, 08:01:54 PM »
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Mate, iam not stupid :)
but i thought , that this is written in farsi...excuse me for my uneducation :(
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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #76 on: February 06, 2012, 08:34:30 PM »
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Mate, iam not stupid :)
but i thought , that this is written in farsi...excuse me for my uneducation :(

Kabbalah its not first time you act like a troll. The pict you post was just any pict, it suggest that the lens of Iranian satillite is simple as a Sony cybershot. You post a israeli propaganda garbage and ask here what that is. You are stupid that think acting stupid will make you chances of staying here any better...
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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #77 on: February 06, 2012, 09:46:21 PM »
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Kabbalah don't worry about it; it is propaganda that has already been debunked on another forum.  Focus on the facts being presented here and stay clear away from such bovine excrement presented from whatever website it came from.

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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #78 on: February 07, 2012, 03:53:31 AM »
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Unfortunately I haven't that interview, But last night a in a live talk show in IRIBTV2 with head of Space Organization and head of Space Research institute of Elm-o-San'at university (University of Science and Technology ) was released that I recorded it, It was about Navid, Zafar and Fajr satellites and generally about Iran's space program. length of it is around 40 minutes and isnt possible to upload on Youtube. I converted it to swf format to decrease size of it and uploaded it.
I put link of it soon.
my youtube account is capable of uploading that length on youtube, i can do it if you want.

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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #79 on: February 07, 2012, 04:54:37 AM »
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my youtube account is capable of uploading that length on youtube, i can do it if you want.
What format can be uploaded on YouTube? because other formats than swf of this file takes more than 10 hours to upload.

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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #80 on: February 07, 2012, 05:19:40 AM »
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What format can be uploaded on YouTube? because other formats than swf of this file takes more than 10 hours to upload.
youtube should accept any format.. wmv or avi would be good but i think it will be a little large due to the length of the video..
there is no problem for me, i can leave my computer on for 10 hours for video to upload, ive done it before.. but if its no problem for you..

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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #81 on: February 07, 2012, 05:26:12 AM »
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dear M-ATF the video u have uploaded doesn't have sound after 14:21 !
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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #82 on: February 07, 2012, 07:21:32 AM »
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youtube should accept any format.. wmv or avi would be good but i think it will be a little large due to the length of the video..
there is no problem for me, i can leave my computer on for 10 hours for video to upload, ive done it before.. but if its no problem for you..
Thanks but It takes to me ten hours to upload it, maybe you can uplaod it faster. Smallest mp4 that I could convert is around 270 Mb. I don't know do others want to see the video or no, if yes I upload it .
dear M-ATF the video u have uploaded doesn't have sound after 14:21 !
Excuse me, I hadn't checked converted file completely, original file is ok but when I convert it to any other format,I face this problem, I guess I should use another converter. I try to upload another file of the video.

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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #83 on: February 07, 2012, 05:35:00 PM »
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if you can upload the main file,i can upload it onto youtube,my account is good for long videos :)

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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #84 on: February 07, 2012, 05:57:17 PM »
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if you can upload the main file,i can upload it onto youtube,my account is good for long videos :)
I have problem with converting it, I should find a suitable converter.

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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #85 on: February 07, 2012, 06:10:59 PM »
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Thanks M-ATF,

I had the same problem and I tried it on a number of players and it didn't work. I am eager to know what they are mentioning in the video. Could you upload the sound track only. I will try to run the video and audio in sync.
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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #86 on: February 07, 2012, 06:49:45 PM »
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Thanks M-ATF,

I had the same problem and I tried it on a number of players and it didn't work. I am eager to know what they are mentioning in the video. Could you upload the sound track only. I will try to run the video and audio in sync.
I was going to split the video into four files, but I can upload the sound file too. I try to do both
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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #87 on: February 07, 2012, 07:11:16 PM »
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I tried to convert to mp3 file but I faced the problem again and after around 14 minutes file has no sound.
I split the video into four file to solve the problem. I will upload them till tomorrow.

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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #88 on: February 07, 2012, 09:17:19 PM »
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I tried to convert to mp3 file but I faced the problem again and after around 14 minutes file has no sound.
I split the video into four file to solve the problem. I will upload them till tomorrow.

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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #89 on: February 08, 2012, 05:34:56 AM »
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i couldnt find that first interview in IRIB archive!

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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #90 on: February 08, 2012, 07:11:12 AM »
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i couldnt find that first interview in IRIB archive!

One of my friends has recorded it, I ask him to see can he upload it.

This is sound file of the talk show :
http://delagah.persiangig.com/video/GoftoGu-Vijeh/IRIB-TV2_02_05_2012_22_44_09.rar

Unfortunately even after splitting video I faced that problem again.

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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #91 on: February 08, 2012, 05:21:44 PM »
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First images of Navid satellite was received from Strait of Hurmoz.
Director of projecto f Navid satellites said in worst weather conditions we could receive first Navid satellite images that is images of Strait Hormuz
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دریافت اولین تصویر ماهواره نوید از تنگه هرمز
مدیر پروژه ماهواره نوید خبرداد: ساعت ۱۶:۳۳ امروز در بدترین شرایط جوی موفق شدیم اولین تصویر زمان واقعی را توسط ماهواره نوید از تنگه هرمز گرفته و آن را مخابره و دریافت کنیم.
به گزارش مشرق ، حسین بلندی مدیر پروژه ماهواره نوید لحظاتی قبل برای اولین بار در برنامه «دیروز امروز فردا» خبر داد: امروز بعدازظهر در بدترین شرایط جوی موفق شدیم اولین تصویر زمان واقعی را توسط ماهواره نوید از تنگه هرمز گرفته و آن را مخابره و دریافت کنیم.

وی گفت: به یاد حضرت حجت روحی له الفدا این مژده بزرگ را برای ملت ایران دارم که ما توانستیم بعد از اینکه پیام یا مهدی (عج) در ابتدای هفته وحدت امسال توسط ماهواره نوید در جهان منتشر کنیم مأموریت دوم دریافت داده‌های حرارتی نقاط مختلف ماهواره را نیز با موفقیت انجام دادیم.

بلندی خبر داد: بعدازظهر امروز در بدترین شرایط جوی موفق شدیم اولین تصویر زمان واقعی را توسط ماهواره امید از تنگه هرمز گرفته و آن را مخابره و دریافت کنیم.

وی افزود: این در تاریخ فضایی کشور اولین بار است که توانسته‌ایم این تصویر را بگیریم.
http://www.mashreghnews.ir/fa/news/97956/%D8%AF%D8%B1%DB%8C%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%AA-%D8%A7%D9%88%D9%84%DB%8C%D9%86-%D8%AA%D8%B5%D9%88%DB%8C%D8%B1-%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%87-%D9%86%D9%88%DB%8C%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D8%B2-%D8%AA%D9%86%DA%AF%D9%87-%D9%87%D8%B1%D9%85%D8%B2

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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #92 on: February 08, 2012, 06:22:29 PM »
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i couldnt find that first interview in IRIB archive!


Video of that interview, uploaded by Reza4087 at military.ir:
http://reza4087.persiangig.com/video/khabar%2020.flv

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Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #93 on: February 08, 2012, 09:26:43 PM »
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thanks to reza and M-ATF

IRIB Interview regarding the Navid satellite and its launch Small | Large
it's time to nut up or shut up!

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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #94 on: February 09, 2012, 03:45:39 AM »
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I just had a visual observation of the second stage of Safir-e-Navid using binocular. It was relatively bright and an easy object if one is used to track satellites. The magnitude was changing continuously and ranging between about 3 to probably something about 6-7. the changing period was rapid and about 1 second. I couldn't observe the Navid satellite as the time/location was not favorable (it was supposed to be visible for a short period of time before going into the earth's shadow.)

Three years ago, I had observation of both Omid and the Safir-e-Omid's second stage. Here is what I wrote about it back then:

Omid:
I had a visual observation of OMID satellite using binoculars (12*50). Its magnitude was changing rapidly (each 3-4 second) in quite a wide range of 3 to 7 or even 8. Also, I saw two flashes one as bright as mag 1 to 0. I think (more of a guess) it does one rotation each 8-12 seconds.
Note: max elevation was 57°.

Safir-e-Omid:
I had a visual observation (using binoculars) of the final-stage of Safir-2 (not a very clear sky). I estimate its brightness at its max elevation of 37° to be 3.3+-0.5. I should have a better observation tomorrow as its max elevation is 68° at my location. Fast inspection of photos I captured suggest that I have not took its picture! or it was too dim for the bright sky after sunset. I will try tomorrow as well.

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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #95 on: February 09, 2012, 08:56:15 AM »
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Iran needs rockets that can reach 6000 - 7000 miles..That will be a great boost for Iran's security..

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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #96 on: February 11, 2012, 10:42:43 PM »
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IRANIAN SATELLITE: On Feb. 3rd, Iran launched the country's third satellite. Named "Navid," the 110-pound mini-spacecraft is meant to stay in orbit for 18 months, sending back images to Iran as it completes a revolution of Earth every 90 minutes. On Feb. 10th, veteran satellite observer Marco Langbroek photographed Navid as it passed over his home in Leiden, the Netherlands:



"It was a clear evening and I had a 71 degree elevation pass of Navid, which moves in a 250 x 375 km orbit," says Langbroek. "The satellite was invisible to the naked eye (I estimate its magnitude as +7), but my camera was able to record its faint trail moving just south of the alpha Persei star association. Measuring only 50 x 60 cm, Navid is the smallest object in orbit I have ever photographed."

http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=11&month=02&year=2012


I should note that it is quite difficult to photograph satellites this dim as they move very fast and they benefit little from long exposure needed for astrophotography.

I photographed the second stage of Safir-e-Omid when it was in orbit three years ago. If someone is interested I can find that photo and post it here.

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« Reply #97 on: February 12, 2012, 08:08:10 AM »
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Thanks AK. Iam interested in how do u do this? Some technical details.

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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #98 on: February 12, 2012, 08:36:24 AM »
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IRANIAN SATELLITE: On Feb. 3rd, Iran launched the country's third satellite. Named "Navid," the 110-pound mini-spacecraft is meant to stay in orbit for 18 months, sending back images to Iran as it completes a revolution of Earth every 90 minutes. On Feb. 10th, veteran satellite observer Marco Langbroek photographed Navid as it passed over his home in Leiden, the Netherlands:



"It was a clear evening and I had a 71 degree elevation pass of Navid, which moves in a 250 x 375 km orbit," says Langbroek. "The satellite was invisible to the naked eye (I estimate its magnitude as +7), but my camera was able to record its faint trail moving just south of the alpha Persei star association. Measuring only 50 x 60 cm, Navid is the smallest object in orbit I have ever photographed."

http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=11&month=02&year=2012


I should note that it is quite difficult to photograph satellites this dim as they move very fast and they benefit little from long exposure needed for astrophotography.

I photographed the second stage of Safir-e-Omid when it was in orbit three years ago. If someone is interested I can find that photo and post it here.


I'm interested in seeing them.would also like to know what kind of lens its needed for this, is 300 mm enough?

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Re: Iran launched third satellite into space: "Navid-e Elm-o-Sanat"
« Reply #99 on: February 12, 2012, 08:07:40 PM »
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Great and thanks for the plus votes.

I will break the process into two major parts:

1- Observing (locating) these small objects
Since Navid satellite and the second stage of Safir launcher are relatively small, it is a bit tricky to observer them as they are quite dim. The Navid magnitude (a log scale of how bright a celestial object is. Read more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparent_magnitude) was estimated at 7, which means even under perfect conditions it won't be visible to naked eyes. The second stage of Safir however is much brighter and I estimated its mag to be 3-4 at its max as it flashes quite frequently.
To master locating and following satellite I suggest you start with satellites brighter than mag 0, which are easily visible to naked eye at a reasonably dark location (where you can see Polaris or the big deeper- دب اكبر). The easiest satellite to observe is ISS as it is so bright at mag -4 to -5 that it is hard to miss from anywhere. For these bright satellites you don't need any tool such as binoculars. What you need is when and roughly where in the sky they will show up. For that I advice you to use heavens-above.com to generate a map of satellite path with respect to background stars. This makes seeing them much easier. That site generate maps like these:


In this case, I have mapped the path for ISS for Amsterdam (should be useful for Pasdar) on Feb. 18. As you can see it starts on south-west and goes all the way almost to east, where it enters earth shadow and becomes invisible.

Back to process of observing/photographing Navid and Safir. First try with bright satellites and learn how to use these maps and develop a feel for how fast most of satellites move in the sky and then go to dimmer satellites with mag of about 4. To observe these satellites from urban areas, I suggest using binoculars. Using binoculars to observe satellites means that you should be quite comfortable with binoculars and be able to find a specific star quickly. One easy trick is to look at the map and see if you can find a bright star in the path of the satellite and start observing that star a minute or two (BTW, having a accurately set watch (down to second) with you would be very helpful) and wait for the satellite to pass and follow it from there.

2- Photographing a satellite
Basically, it is the same as astrophotography only it is important to point the DSLR camera to the right location of the sky at the right time. A good lens to start with is a lens with small focal length (e.g. 18 mm) and a small F number (large maximum aperture) for example, 2.8 for this lens:18-55mm F2.8. The smaller the F number the much more expensive a lens will become. As the F number decrease the aperture increases and hence the amount of light collected by that lens. After you became comfortable with small focal lengths and you had nice shots you can increase the focal length to about 100 mm.

Pasdar, using 300 mm lens would be tricky as you have to point your DSLR very accurately and the satellite will pass over FOV very quickly and usually doesn't give enough light for the DSLR sensor!

For astrophotography guide I suggest these websites:
http://www.scribd.com/full/41186760?access_key=key-gnoflczzrljkxl1qzzd
http://www.astropix.com/BGDA/SAMPLE1/SAMPLE1.HTM

Let me know if you have any question.

BTW, yesterday, I photographed Safir's second stage as it passed next to Polaris. I will post it soon!

 

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