Author Topic: Iran to launch Fajr satellite in next days (till 11 Feb.) (Read 6935 times)

M-ATF · « **on:** February 05, 2012, 11:50:57 AM »

Ahmad Vahidi DM of Iran says by launching Fajr satellite in near future we enter to a new generation of launching satellites.

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سردار وحیدی: سازمان صنایع هوافضا آماده جهش به مراتب بالاتر است
با پرتاب ماهواره فجر وارد نسل جدید پرتاب ماهواره‌های ایران به فضا می‌شویم

خبرگزاری فارس: وزیر دفاع و پشتیبانی نیروهای مسلح گفت: در آینده نه چندان دور با پرتاب ماهواره فجر وارد نسل جدیدی از پرتاب ماهواره‌های جمهوری اسلامی ایران به فضا خواهیم شد.
خبرگزاری فارس: با پرتاب ماهواره فجر وارد نسل جدید پرتاب ماهواره‌های ایران به فضا می‌شویم

به گزارش خبرگزاری فارس، سردار احمد وحیدی وزیر دفاع و پشتیبانی نیروهای مسلح جمهوری اسلامی ایران با حضور در سازمان صنایع هوافضای وزارت دفاع و کارکنان این صنعت طی سخنانی، با تشکر و قدردانی از تلاش خستگی‌ناپذیر و مجاهدت کم‌نظیر مدیران، دانشمندان و متخصصان سازمان صنایع هوافضا بخاطر پرتاب موفقیت‌آمیز ماهواره نوید به فضا و قرار دادن آن در مدار زمین، گفت: پرتاب ماهواره نوید توسط ماهواره‌بر سفیر نوید صرفاً یک عملیات در حوزه هوافضا تلقی نمی‌‌شود بلکه نماد بارزی از خلاقیت، خودباوری، خردمندی و خداجویی شما عزیزان است که با توکل به خدا و توسل به ائمه اطهار چنین افتخارات بزرگی را برای ایران اسلامی به ارمغان می‌آورید.

وی خطاب به کارکنان سازمان صنایع هوافضای وزارت دفاع گفت: البته این افتخار و سایر افتخارات قبلی که در جریان پرتاب ماهواره ملی امید و رصد توسط شما عزیزان آفریده شده فقط متعلق به ایران و ایرانی نیست بلکه متعلق به همه مسلمانان است و ما مفتخریم که پیروان مکتب اهل بیت با دانش، نبوغ، تعهد و تلاش، سفارش مؤکدی را که آن بزرگان به ما توصیه کرده‌اند با خلق چنین دستاوردها و فناوری مهم علمی و فنی جامه عمل می‌پوشانند.

وحیدی از سازمان صنایع هوافضای وزارت دفاع بعنوان سازمانی اقتدارآفرین یاد کرد و اظهار داشت: ما وارث انقلابی هستیم که دنیا را تکان داده است. ما وارث رزمندگان دلاور و خون شهیدانی هستیم که با ایستادگی خود در مقابل دنیای استکبار آنان را با اقتدار به خاک مذلت نشاندند و البته جز این هم انتظاری نیست، که با خلق این دستاوردهای سترگ و درخشان تداوم بخش مقاومت و پایداری آنان باشید.

وزیر دفاع با بیان اینکه این دستاوردها نشان می‌دهد که سازمان صنایع هوافضا آماده جهش به مراتب بالاتر است و اقدام موفق در پرتاب ماهواره نوید به فضا مقدمه کارهای بزرگتری است که باید صورت گیرد.

وحیدی با بیان اینکه در آینده نه چندان دور با پرتاب ماهواره فجر وارد نسل جدیدی از پرتاب ماهواره‌های جمهوری اسلامی ایران به فضا خواهیم بود، تأکید کرد: انشاءالله در سایه همدلی و هماهنگی همه دست‌اندرکاران امور فضایی کشور شاهد شتاب و رشد بیشتری در این حوزه باشیم.

http://www.farsnews.com/newsh.php?hoz=11

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In a talk show I watched in Iran's TV this morning, one of Iranian officials said Satellite launcher of Tolu is ready but Tolu satellite isnt ready yet. Tolu is 80 kg and will be put into 400 km altitude orbit for a 3 years mission.

Tolu will be launched by Safir-2A.

Pasdar · « **Reply #1 on:** February 05, 2012, 01:00:57 PM »

This is very good news. I was hoping for more upgrades to the rocket.Since the rocket has proven itself. It's the only useful rocket for a first human mission.

Aspahbod · « **Reply #2 on:** February 05, 2012, 01:18:20 PM »

I think we really need to work on bigger rockets. Diameter of the missiles must be increased. probably we need a 40% bigger Shahab 3.

M-ATF · « **Reply #3 on:** February 05, 2012, 02:37:17 PM »

Quote from: Aspahbod on February 05, 2012, 01:18:20 PM

I think we really need to work on bigger rockets. Diameter of the missiles must be increased. probably we need a 40% bigger Shahab 3.

And add the stages of our SLV's

1980warrior · « **Reply #4 on:** February 05, 2012, 02:48:04 PM »

will it get launched in the next few days ?

M-ATF · « **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2012, 02:59:16 PM »

Yes
Hamid Fazeli head of Space Organization told to YJC.ir that we are trying to launch Fajr till 11 Feb. 2012

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اختصاصي/
ماهواره فجر تا 22 بهمن پرتاب مي شود

همزمان با سالگرد پيروزي شكوهمند انقلاب اسلامي ماهواره فجر به فضا پرتاب مي شود.

حميد فاضلي رئيس سازمان فضايي ايران در گفتگو با خبرنگار نجوم باشگاه خبرنگاران گفت: ما در تلاش هستيم تا ماهواره فجر را تا 22 بهمن ماه به فضا پرتاب كنيم. پيش بيني شده بود كه در همين ايام دهه فجر اين پروژه راهي فضا شود كه انشاالله به وعده خود عمل خواهيم كرد.
وي ادامه داد: قرار بود تا در دهه مبارك فجر دو ماهواره به فضا پرتاب شود كه ماهواره نويد علم و صنعت با موفقيت در مدار قرار گرفت و ماهواره فجر هم در صورت مساعد بودن شرايط جوي با موفقيت پرتاب خواهد شد.
فاضلي تاكيد كرد: اگر به علت بدي آب و هوا پرتاب ماهواره فجر تا پايان سال صورت نگيرد در ابتداي سال آينده اين پروژه اجرائي خواهد شد.

ماهواره فجر به عنوان اولین ماهواره با ماموریت مانورمداری کشور با قابلیت تغییر مدار ۳۰۰ تا ۴۵۰ کیلومتر بیضوی به مدار ۴۵۰ کیلومتر دایره‌ای است که سبب افزایش طول عمر ماهواره به یک و نیم سال است. این ماهواره با کمک ماهواره‌بر سفیر ۱-ب به فضا پرتاب می‌شود.

http://www.yjc.ir/home?p_p_id=101_INSTANCE_F4av&p_p_lifecycle=0&p_p_state=maximized&p_p_mode=view&p_p_col_id=column-2&p_p_col_pos=2&p_p_col_count=3&_101_INSTANCE_F4av_struts_action=%2Ftagged_content%2Fview_content&_101_INSTANCE_F4av_redirect=%2Fhome&_101_INSTANCE_F4av_assetId=1559709

1980warrior · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2012, 03:32:40 PM »

Thanks for the info M-ATF

Quote from: M-ATF on February 05, 2012, 02:59:16 PM

Yes
Hamid Fazeli head of Space Organization told to YJC.ir that we are trying to launch Fajr till 11 Feb. 2012

http://www.yjc.ir/home?p_p_id=101_INSTANCE_F4av&p_p_lifecycle=0&p_p_state=maximized&p_p_mode=view&p_p_col_id=column-2&p_p_col_pos=2&p_p_col_count=3&_101_INSTANCE_F4av_struts_action=%2Ftagged_content%2Fview_content&_101_INSTANCE_F4av_redirect=%2Fhome&_101_INSTANCE_F4av_assetId=1559709

the8march · « **Reply #7 on:** February 05, 2012, 04:07:03 PM »

Some old news but with info:

“This satellite is capable of staying in space for a year and a half and providing and transmitting pictures with a resolution of 500-1000 meters to stations on earth,” IEI Managing Director Ebrahim Mahmoudzadeh said, ISNA quoted on Friday.

He said the design and quality of the solar cells used on the body of the satellite have increased the durability of the satellite to 1.5 years.

The national Fajr (dawn) satellite weighs 50 km and will be placed in elliptical orbit of 250-400 km in radius and enjoys the specifications of professional radar.

Fajr, the new generation of Omid (Hope) satellite also designed and built by Iranian experts, is technically characterized by an orbit which could promote from 250 to 400 km through a thruster or an engine and have a greater elevation in elliptical orbit, Mahmoudzadeh added.

Regarding the camera mounted on the satellite, the IEI chief said the device was developed by the company is capable of taking pictures from various distances and at any time. IEI has produced a 20-meter resolution camera which will be installed on another Iranian-made satellite, called Tolou (Rise), he added.

“Fajr is also equipped with a domestically-made GPS navigation system which is seen as a new achievement,” he said.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/165867.html

Pasdar · « **Reply #8 on:** February 05, 2012, 05:17:57 PM »

I know you guys are eager to see Simorgh being fired away, and so am I.

However, it's the stupid man's approach to jump to the next rocket with even more stages and even more engines, while you haven't learned to get every last bit of juice from your current rocket.

If Iran wants to be the super power that I wish it to be, it needs to make Safir go to much greater lengths, and not use even larger rockets for small satellites that are technologically possible to be sent with a rocket the size of Safir.

Iran should keep advancing the Safir and at the same time improve the Simorgh too, but for now, it needs to keep advancing the Safir.

1980warrior · « **Reply #9 on:** February 05, 2012, 05:38:55 PM »

@ Pasdar. any info on the Safir 1B ? is it bigger then the one we used for our previous launch ?

sami86 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 05, 2012, 06:21:31 PM »

what 2 satelites in few days !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

M-ATF · « **Reply #11 on:** February 05, 2012, 08:06:37 PM »

Now in a talk show head of Space Organization said we planned to put both Navid and Fajr in "Ten Days of Dawn" (Dahe-ye-Fajr, 1 to 11 Feb) , Navid was ready and we launched it into space on predetermined schedule, But time of launching "Fajr" isnt clear yet, Maybe launch it before the end of this year (Iranian year which starts at March) or Maybe launch it after end of this year. We should accomplish all needed preflight tests of Fajr to be sure it is ready for launch.

He said weight of Fajr is around 60 kg and will be luanched by Safir-1B too.

ahriman46 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 05, 2012, 10:47:57 PM »

Fajr satellite 3D imagesVVV
http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-fajr-satellite-iranian-iran/597888

its the one on the right

Sobaka · « **Reply #13 on:** February 06, 2012, 07:32:57 AM »

Quote from: Pasdar on February 05, 2012, 05:17:57 PM

I know you guys are eager to see Simorgh being fired away, and so am I. However, it's the stupid man's approach to jump to the next rocket with even more stages and even more engines, while you haven't learned to get every last bit of juice from your current rocket.

If Iran wants to be the super power that I wish it to be, it needs to make Safir go to much greater lengths, and not use even larger rockets for small satellites that are technologically possible to be sent with a rocket the size of Safir.

Iran should keep advancing the Safir and at the same time improve the Simorgh too, but for now, it needs to keep advancing the Safir.

Iranian engineers have already extracted everything Safir and its variations have to offer. If larger satellites are to be placed into orbit, a larger launcher is needed (or one based on higher energy propellants). The Simorgh is therefore inevitable.

But, launching the Simorgh will cause a huge response from Europe and the US because if converted into a military missile, it would be capable of reaching all of Europe and could be the basis for an intercontinental missile. Europeans and Americans will take this conclusion regardless of Iran's intentions. I think it would be a mistake for Iran to use the Simorgh in the near future because the diplomatic fall-out, whether justified or not, will be harmful.

M-ATF · « **Reply #14 on:** February 06, 2012, 08:08:57 AM »

Quote from: M-ATF on February 05, 2012, 08:06:37 PM

Now in a talk show head of Space Organization said we planned to put both Navid and Fajr in "Ten Days of Dawn" (Dahe-ye-Fajr, 1 to 11 Feb) , Navid was ready and we launched it into space on predetermined schedule, But time of launching "Fajr" isnt clear yet, Maybe launch it before the end of this year (Iranian year which starts at March) or Maybe launch it after end of this year. We should accomplish all needed preflight tests of Fajr to be sure it is ready for launch.

He said weight of Fajr is around 60 kg and will be luanched by Safir-1B too.

http://delagah.persiangig.com/video/IRIB-TV2_02_05_2012_22_44_09-Goft-o-guye-Vijeye-Khabari.rar

Quote from: Sobaka on February 06, 2012, 07:32:57 AM

Iranian engineers have already extracted everything Safir and its variations have to offer. If larger satellites are to be placed into orbit, a larger launcher is needed (or one based on higher energy propellants). The Simorgh is therefore inevitable.

But, launching the Simorgh will cause a huge response from Europe and the US because if converted into a military missile, it would be capable of reaching all of Europe and could be the basis for an intercontinental missile. Europeans and Americans will take this conclusion regardless of Iran's intentions. I think it would be a mistake for Iran to use the Simorgh in the near future because the diplomatic fall-out, whether justified or not, will be harmful.

Simorgh has been ready for launch, They will launch it next year, now they are preparing its satellite.

parthenon · « **Reply #15 on:** February 06, 2012, 12:40:20 PM »

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Sobaka:
...But, launching the Simorgh will cause a huge response from Europe and the US because if converted into a military missile, it would be capable of reaching all of Europe and could be the basis for an intercontinental missile. Europeans and Americans will take this conclusion regardless of Iran's intentions. I think it would be a mistake for Iran to use the Simorgh in the near future because the diplomatic fall-out, whether justified or not, will be harmful...

Conversely, the "Navid" launch got hardly any response in Western media!

Pasdar · « **Reply #16 on:** February 06, 2012, 05:25:57 PM »

Quote from: Sobaka on February 06, 2012, 07:32:57 AM

Iranian engineers have already extracted everything Safir and its variations have to offer. If larger satellites are to be placed into orbit, a larger launcher is needed (or one based on higher energy propellants). The Simorgh is therefore inevitable.

But, launching the Simorgh will cause a huge response from Europe and the US because if converted into a military missile, it would be capable of reaching all of Europe and could be the basis for an intercontinental missile. Europeans and Americans will take this conclusion regardless of Iran's intentions. I think it would be a mistake for Iran to use the Simorgh in the near future because the diplomatic fall-out, whether justified or not, will be harmful.

Safir has enough space to carry the needed sats of Iran to space and also a capsule for an ape. In fact, since it has proven itself as a platform, it would be the vehicle I would use (slightly modified) for a first human orbital flight.
I'd like to see calculations done on this size of a rocket for best theoretically possible outcome. I would continue improve it.

Sobaka · « **Reply #17 on:** February 07, 2012, 07:00:08 AM »

Quote from: Pasdar on February 06, 2012, 05:25:57 PM

Safir has enough space to carry the needed sats of Iran to space and also a capsule for an ape. In fact, since it has proven itself as a platform, it would be the vehicle I would use (slightly modified) for a first human orbital flight.
I'd like to see calculations done on this size of a rocket for best theoretically possible outcome. I would continue improve it.

Pasdar,
I respectfully disagree. The first stage engine used in the Safir produces about 27-28 tons of thrust; I know this because my colleagues worked with the engine in Iran a decade ago and they are very familiar with the engine and its origins. Iran claims it produces 30 tons, but this is doubtful. Even if we assume that the engine does generate 30 tons thrust, it would not be capable of lifting a payload of more than about 100kg into low earth orbit. Moreover, the second stage engines create only 3 tons. The combination is insufficient to place a biocapsule containing an ape, let alone a person into orbit. This is precisely why Iran is developing the Simorgh; it is the logical next step after the Safir.

M-ATF · « **Reply #18 on:** February 07, 2012, 07:39:04 AM »

Quote from: Sobaka on February 07, 2012, 07:00:08 AM

Pasdar,
I respectfully disagree. The first stage engine used in the Safir produces about 27-28 tons of thrust; I know this because my colleagues worked with the engine in Iran a decade ago and they are very familiar with the engine and its origins. Iran claims it produces 30 tons, but this is doubtful. Even if we assume that the engine does generate 30 tons thrust, it would not be capable of lifting a payload of more than about 100kg into low earth orbit. Moreover, the second stage engines create only 3 tons. The combination is insufficient to place a biocapsule containing an ape, let alone a person into orbit. This is precisely why Iran is developing the Simorgh; it is the logical next step after the Safir.

First stage of Safir-1A produces 32 tons thrust and first stage of Safir-1B produces 37 tons thrust (its impulse has been increased 5% compared to Safir-1A too).
Second stage of Safir-1A produces 3.4 tons thrust.
But I agree with you, Safir isnt suitable for launching heavier satellites to higher altitude orbits and as Iranian officials have announced they will use Simorgh for heavier satellites.
Most likely we will see first launch of Simorgh (for Tolu satellite) next year.

the8march · « **Reply #19 on:** February 07, 2012, 08:00:26 AM »

Did they already test the Simorgh? Do you think they will launch it the first time with a satellite?

M-ATF · « **Reply #20 on:** February 07, 2012, 08:35:04 AM »

Quote from: the8march on February 07, 2012, 08:00:26 AM

Did they already test the Simorgh? Do you think they will launch it the first time with a satellite?

I don't know did they test it or no but In recent days, I heard some remarks by head of Space organization about it.
In an interview he said Simorgh SLV is ready but it is waiting for its passenger ( he meant the satellite that should be launched by Simorgh) that isn't ready yet.

In another case, in a talk show (two night ago) he said Simorgh will launch satellites up to 100 kg into circular 400 km orbits next year.

the8march · « **Reply #21 on:** February 07, 2012, 09:04:39 AM »

so the Simorgh is a completely new design than Safir, Right?

If i remember correctly they first launched Safir with a sounding instrument on board. I think they used this for testing the platform. I cannt really imagine that they will launch a satellite in the first launch...

M-ATF · « **Reply #22 on:** February 07, 2012, 10:25:43 AM »

Quote from: the8march on February 07, 2012, 09:04:39 AM

so the Simorgh is a completely new design than Safir, Right?

If i remember correctly they first launched Safir with a sounding instrument on board. I think they used this for testing the platform. I cannt really imagine that they will launch a satellite in the first launch...

As I know, engine of first stage of first prototype of Simorgh is cluster of four Safir engine.

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I guess second stage of both Safir and Simorgh is the same.
Some people believes second stage of Simorgh is slightly longer (based on Image analysis of Safir image and Simorgh mock-up image and comparison of them)

M-ATF · « **Reply #23 on:** February 08, 2012, 05:31:05 PM »

Head of IEI (Iran Electronics Industries) said Building Fajr satellite was finished.
Fajr satellite has been equiped with cameras. He said these cameras has been built by IEI and can send images to stations that are located inside and outside of country.
he said lifespan of Fajr satellite is 1.5 years.
He said this satellite benefits of four new feature compared to older satellites of Iran. he added Fajr is ready for launch.

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محمودزاده:
ماهواره فجر دارای طول عمر یک و نیم سال است
مدیر عامل صنایع الکترونیک ایران وابسته به وزارت دفاع و پشتیبانی نیروهای مسلح از پایان مراحل طراحی و ساخت ماهواره ایرانی فجر خبر داد.
به گزارش مشرق، ابراهیم محمودزاده در حاشیه افتتاح طرحهای صنایع الکترونیک شیراز در گفتگو با واحد مرکزی خبر گفت: این ماهواره که قابلیتها ،تواناییها و فنآوریهای بیشتری در مقایسه با سه ماهواره قبلی کشورمان دارد آماده پرتاب به فضاست.

وی افزود : ماهواره فجر دارای طول عمر بیشتر از یک و نیم سال است که طول عمر آن بیشتر از ماهواره های قبلی پرتاب شده است .

مدیر عامل صنایع الکترونیک ایران همچنین از مجهز بودن این ماهواره به دوربینهای تصویر برداری خبرداد وگفت: این دوربینها ساخت مجموعه صنایع الکترونیک است و قابلیت تصویر برداری و ارسال تصاویر به ایستگاههایی که در داخل و خارج از کشور برای این منظور در نظر گرفته شده است را دارد .

محمود زاده با اشاره به مجهزبودن ماهواره فجر به فنآوری پیشرفته هدایت دایروی گفت: با استفاده از این فنآوری توانایی مانور مداری در این ماهواره وجود دارد و حرکت ماهواره از مدار بیضوی به مدار دایروی هدایت می شود که این موضوع فناوری پیچیده و پیشرفته ای در ماهواره ها محسوب می شود.

او گفت: امکان مانور مداری در ماهواره فجر باعث افزایش اقتدار کشورمان در فضا می شود . مدیر عامل صنایع الکترونیک ایران افزود : این ماهواره که دارای ۴ ویژگی جدید نسبت به ماهواره های قبلی است کاملا ایرانی و بومی است و توسط مخترعان داخلی در صنایع الکترونیک ایران طراحی و ساخته شده و آماده پرتاب است که با دستور وزیر دفاع در آینده نزدیک پرتاب می شود .

وی افزود : پرتابگر ماهواره فجر را نیز سازمان هوا و فضای وزارت دفاع و پشتیبانی نیروهای مسلح آماده کرده است .

http://www.mashreghnews.ir/fa/news/97941/%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%87-%D9%81%D8%AC%D8%B1-%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A7%DB%8C-%D8%B7%D9%88%D9%84-%D8%B9%D9%85%D8%B1-%DB%8C%DA%A9-%D9%88-%D9%86%DB%8C%D9%85-%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%84-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA

1980warrior · « **Reply #24 on:** February 08, 2012, 05:36:03 PM »

^^ keep us informed on when it will get launched