Author Topic: Some english words that have Farsi origins. (Read 1089 times)

Mr-Babak-S · « **on:** March 31, 2012, 10:55:54 PM »

Some English words that have Persian origins:

Lemon
Lilac
Magic
Alfalfa
Cash
Jackal
Jasmine
Bronze
Candy
Tambourine
Tapestry
Tiara
Tiger
Tulip
Balcony
Beige
Orange
Pajama
Paradise
Musk
Path
Peach
Pistachio

And yet more English words that have Persian (Iranian) roots:
Begar
Carafe
Caravan
Carcass
Caviar
Check
Checkmate
Chess
Cushy
Diva
Divan
Fierce
Jasper
Julep
Kabob
Kaftan
Khaki
Kiosk
Manticore
Mummy
Pagoda
Popinjay
Pyke
Rank
Rose
Sandal
scarlet
Scimitar
Seer
Serendipity
Shawl
Sitar
Spinach
Squinch
Sugar
Turban
Typhoon
Zirconium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Persian_origin

The word "Balcony" is interesting to me because it is a combination of "balah" and "khooneh."
Balah = above or upper
Khooneh = house

Balcony is balah + khooneh, or "above house."

mustavaris · « **Reply #1 on:** April 18, 2012, 02:52:00 PM »

Couple of Finnish words that I have noticed to bear obvious connection to Iranic languages..

Sata (hundred)
Marras (Dead, seriously sick)

mamdali · « **Reply #2 on:** April 18, 2012, 03:02:38 PM »

Mr-Babak-jan, I love this stuff. Thanks for sharing!

RG · « **Reply #3 on:** May 26, 2012, 02:35:39 PM »

Mr-Babak-S , You forgot the very commonly used one => Bad

Cheers.

kaman · « **Reply #4 on:** May 26, 2012, 06:11:06 PM »

Quote from: mustavaris on April 18, 2012, 02:52:00 PM

Couple of Finnish words that I have noticed to bear obvious connection to Iranic languages..

Sata (hundred)
Marras (Dead, seriously sick)

Regarding both words I do not know if they are related to Iranic languages directly. An example Sad (Persian) =100, Cento=200 (Italian)...Cent=100 (French),....regarding Maras it may be linked to Latin languages. Maraz in Persian means sickness and Marg (death)..... Italian La Maladia (illness), and Morte (Italian)...Mort (French) and all the words derivating from it "Morbido"(morbid)....

kaman · « **Reply #5 on:** May 26, 2012, 06:26:30 PM »

Denmark (Jul)
England (Yuletide)
Finland (Joulu)
Iceland (Jól)
Norway (Jul)
Sweden (Jul)
Shetland Islands of Scotland (Yules)
Estonia (Jõulud)
Iran (Yalda)

Regarding words such a Daughter (Dokhtar), Layeh (Layer)...etc I guess that they may date back to a “protolanguage”, those who have more skills in linguistics may bring us more light.... I don’t even mention all the myth and stories…

Siegfried and the Dragon....Esfandiar va Ejdeha.... (Siegfried is Esfandiar)...

mamdali · « **Reply #6 on:** May 26, 2012, 07:58:31 PM »

Quote from: kaman on May 26, 2012, 06:11:06 PM

Regarding both words I do not know if they are related to Iranic languages directly. An example Sad (Persian) =100, Cento=200 (Italian)...Cent=100 (French),....regarding Maras it may be linked to Latin languages. Maraz in Persian means sickness and Marg (death)..... Italian La Maladia (illness), and Morte (Italian)...Mort (French) and all the words derivating from it "Morbido"(morbid)....

Maraz is Arabic not Persian.

kaman · « **Reply #7 on:** May 26, 2012, 08:56:19 PM »

Quote from: mamdali on May 26, 2012, 07:58:31 PM

Maraz is Arabic not Persian.

Thanks for the precision, are there any Persian synonyms?

mamdali · « **Reply #8 on:** May 26, 2012, 09:14:26 PM »

Quote from: kaman on May 26, 2012, 08:56:19 PM

Thanks for the precision, are there any Persian synonyms?

Beemaree.

mustavaris · « **Reply #9 on:** May 27, 2012, 05:21:17 AM »

Wrong. The word is of old (Indo)Aryan origin, not Semitic. It is many of the words of Aryan origin that are still used in many Eurasian languages.

Quote from: mamdali on May 26, 2012, 07:58:31 PM

Maraz is Arabic not Persian.

mustavaris · « **Reply #10 on:** May 27, 2012, 05:27:52 AM »

The word "mort" in Latin is connected to so called proto Indo-European language together with at least Slavic, Celtic and Germanic versions of the same word.. TBH: I do not know if Persian word is too, but it looks similar indeed and the connections have been strong elsewhere so I think that it is likely. Finnish word "marras" is of Aryan origin for sure though.

Quote from: kaman on May 26, 2012, 06:11:06 PM

Regarding both words I do not know if they are related to Iranic languages directly. An example Sad (Persian) =100, Cento=200 (Italian)...Cent=100 (French),....regarding Maras it may be linked to Latin languages. Maraz in Persian means sickness and Marg (death)..... Italian La Maladia (illness), and Morte (Italian)...Mort (French) and all the words derivating from it "Morbido"(morbid)....

kaman · « **Reply #11 on:** May 27, 2012, 11:00:58 AM »

Quote from: mamdali on May 26, 2012, 09:14:26 PM

Beemaree.

Indeed, Syrians still use Bimarestan to designate a hospital. In the middle psychiatric hospitals were also called "Bimarestan".

kaman · « **Reply #12 on:** May 27, 2012, 11:08:18 AM »

Quote from: mustavaris on May 27, 2012, 05:27:52 AM

The word "mort" in Latin is connected to so called proto Indo-European language together with at least Slavic, Celtic and Germanic versions of the same word.. TBH: I do not know if Persian word is too, but it looks similar indeed and the connections have been strong elsewhere so I think that it is likely. Finnish word "marras" is of Aryan origin for sure though.

Sanskrit MRI, "die", akin to MRITA, "dead" > L. MORI, MORTUUS (MORTALITY, MORTICIAN; MORTGAGE, "death=pledge"). See MUR.

http://www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/essays/sanskritwords2.asp

mustavaris · « **Reply #13 on:** May 27, 2012, 12:56:45 PM »

Cheers:) I thought so, but when dealing with linguistics it is never certain to count on obvious similarity.

mamdali · « **Reply #14 on:** May 27, 2012, 01:55:57 PM »

Quote from: mustavaris link=topic=14825.msg121287#msg121287 date=133809i[quote author=mustavaris link=topic=1
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Wrong. The word is of old (Indo)Aryan origin, not Semitic. It is many of the words of Aryan origin that are still used in many Eurasian languages.

Again, please do not comment on things you clearly do not know about. Your failed attempts of displaying knowledge are painful indeed. And as usual because of your
obvious inability to learn and do some basic research I won't even waste time on you to explain why you're wrong.

Mamdali

mamdali · « **Reply #15 on:** May 27, 2012, 02:24:33 PM »

Quote from: kaman on May 27, 2012, 11:00:58 AM

Indeed, Syrians still use Bimarestan to designate a hospital. In the middle psychiatric hospitals were also called "Bimarestan".

Very interesting. Bimarestan is the term for hospital. I want to add, mareezkhaneh is common also especially amongst the older population.

mustavaris · « **Reply #16 on:** May 27, 2012, 03:11:05 PM »

You are a true joker, you cannot even read what is posted in this very thread and then got balls to talk like that:D

Sorry, that word IS of Aryan origin not "Arabic" or anything Semitic. You know, even if it exists in Semitic language(s) it does not mean it were Semitic. Got it?

And.. as far as I know I am talking to a person who does not even know too well his supposed mother tongue:D Swedish is stronger, maybe? Foreigner.. or maybe some other Western language?

But now when we are at it; what would you like to talk about when dealing with linguistics and old Eurasian languages? I have myself noted, that the old connections between Fenno-Ugric languages and Indo-Aryan languages are very interesting. In case of Hungarian there are close to ten layers of those while, for obvious reasons, in Finnic languages less and many via Eastern Slavs...

Quote from: mamdali on May 27, 2012, 01:55:57 PM

Again, please do not comment on things you clearly do not know about. Your failed attempts of displaying knowledge are painful indeed. And as usual because of your
obvious inability to learn and do some basic research I won't even waste time on you to explain why you're wrong.

Mamdali

mamdali · « **Reply #17 on:** May 27, 2012, 08:30:29 PM »

Quote from: mustavaris on May 27, 2012, 03:11:05 PM

You are a true joker, you cannot even read what is posted in this very thread and then got balls to talk like that:D

Sorry, that word IS of Aryan origin not "Arabic" or anything Semitic. You know, even if it exists in Semitic language(s) it does not mean it were Semitic. Got it?

And.. as far as I know I am talking to a person who does not even know too well his supposed mother tongue:D Swedish is stronger, maybe? Foreigner.. or maybe some other Western language?

But now when we are at it; what would you like to talk about when dealing with linguistics and old Eurasian languages? I have myself noted, that the old connections between Fenno-Ugric languages and Indo-Aryan languages are very interesting. In case of Hungarian there are close to ten layers of those while, for obvious reasons, in Finnic languages less and many via Eastern Slavs...

This Finistooni's depth of ignorance is truly amusing. Yes, I 'got it'. As for all our esteemed non Farsi speakers please ignore this person's entirely fact free post. This person is making stuff up to an extent so obvious one wonders if they have any smattering of sanity.

Mamdali

rouz · « **Reply #18 on:** May 27, 2012, 08:47:05 PM »

You're both clueless. Obviously the word originates from the mighty language of Kurmanji.

Persian + Arabic < Kurmanji

mustavaris · « **Reply #19 on:** May 28, 2012, 03:25:36 AM »

So... COME on my dear.

Show us the source that confirms what you claimed. The Semitic origin of said word... and that´s not "Semitic use".

Or shut up and swallow. Like so many times before...

Quote from: mamdali on May 27, 2012, 08:30:29 PM

This Finistooni's depth of ignorance is truly amusing. Yes, I 'got it'. As for all our esteemed non Farsi speakers please ignore this person's entirely fact free post. This person is making stuff up to an extent so obvious one wonders if they have any smattering of sanity.
Mamdali